Thunderstorm creates anti-matter

Scientists are surprised to discover that lightning emits powerful bursts of antimatter into space

Link to news article

I found this interesting not only because its yet another new discovery showing we don't know everything just yet, but I just wonder if this brings anything scientific answers to the ISS videos showing unusual activity around thunderstorms on the planet.



There's other videos too that I'm sure other ATS'ers have seen just wondering what peoples take on these videos are now with this new discovery.

I a not a total believer in UFO's and that but the ISS videos are the ones that always made me go "hmmm" particularly since some people believe that UFO's were using the storms to "recharge" and now its seems they emit antimatter... just want people's take on this not sure if I put it in the right forum.

what a shame we europeans just went and spent billions on the LHC and we could have watched lightning shame on us

Originally posted by nonetruegod
what a shame we europeans just went and spent billions on the LHC and we could have watched lightning shame on us

lightning can't do what they are using the LHC for. I think the whole anti-matter thing is just from that Tom Hanks flick.

reply to post by Electric Crown


google antimatter. its not just from a tom hanks flick

If you dont mind me hijacking your OP, I feel that I can add more information on the subject of lightning. It could be helpful in understanding the real force behind what might be going on.

I must say though, even though I am at an eternal conflict with myself about UFOs and what they really are, if they are at all, I did have an interesting thought about your take on "aliens using our storms for energy", just without the aliens. Dont get me wrong, I feel that anything is really possible, so it could very well be true, as I am only just another ant on this earth.

The thought of powering a craft with that kind of ferrosity, is in itself a wonder. Lets just say that we can come up with some sort of capacitor that can hold vast amounts of electricity, put wings on it, a shuttle for people/cargo, and skim it across the top of the atmosphere. Currently I know of the world's largest capacitor capable of storing 50 megajoules of energy, but these are a combinations of smaller components if I'm not mistaken.

NASA has done some tests with a tether, sat and the shuttle for various reasons. One being, to measure how much energy existed between the upper layer of our atmosphere and space. What they found suprised them. It produced 3 times more than they imagined. Not to mention, the test was not fully sucessful as the tether broke soon after it began. NASA claims that the tether broke due to it becomming stuck/jammed, even so, when it hit the upper layer of the atmosphere from space, it must have had a more fierce tug on the tether than expected, or it simply couldnt hold that much juice. Since I am no scientist and I wasnt there, I have to go off of what NASA said.

Pre-Mission Info

Post-Mission Info

Of course, it was this same mission that many claim to see UFOs floating in the background, but that is beyond where I can go atm.


Fun Facts:

A bolt of lightning can reach temperatures of roughly 30,000 kelvins / 53,540 degrees Fahrenheit.

The sun, on its surface is 6,000 kelvins / 10,340 degrees Fahrenheit.

The sun's core radiates plasma temperatures of about 15 million kelvins / 27 million degrees Fahrenheit.

Above the sun's surface, its atmosphere exceeds temperatures of 500,000 kelvins / 900,000 degrees Fahrenheit

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So we can say that lightning is 5x hotter than the surface of the sun. If Lightning produces anti matter, wouldnt the same hold true for the sun, which boils at much hotter temperatures above it's surface and in it's core? So antimatter could be all around us. It seems only to take super hot temperatures to break matter down in it's simplest forms, as is true with stars being the seeds of new stars and planets. So this whole time, while were searching for this illusive stuff that makes the universe expand fast and faster as we go... wow, it was right here all the time. It just takes really hot temperatures to make it. Maybe dark matter is just the charcoal left after the log has been burned past an ember. The purest carbon, if that's possible. Id hate to say that the answer and key was pure blinding light all the while.



I'm done, you're welcome to have it back now

You brought up some food for thought and I hated to see it go to waste, even though I cant give you a thumbs up or down on the UFO thing. I simply dont know what to believe, as my own experiances with were always without answers.


Thanks and Great Find!

I'm not a big believer in UFO's either I just thought of what people said about UFO recharging in storms and when I saw this article it made me think of that, I just wanted to see if this changed anyone's minds (the believers) into a more scientific explanation for the weird things they see in these videos...

To me it seems like ice particles that could be very well comming from the shuttle. I hate to sound like a debunker, but I'm skepticle by nature. It seems it could be any number of things, such as satalites wizzing by. We do have alot of those buggers flying around up there. Maybe even a meteor shower of sorts. I understand that they are pretty common place. To be so high up, it seems like many of those things you can see in space, you wouldnt be able to see on earth, as much of it would have probably burnt up before comming visible in the atmosphere. I could be wrong about this. Some of the objects are claimed to be a mile plus wide. Maybe it's all out of perspective. It seems closer to the camera than the earth. Either way though, the illusion could be decieving.


I do have one question I've always wanted answered by true believers in UFO's. This is simply for my curiousity and knowledge sake. If UFOs are so advanced, how are they able to be seen? Is Gomer Pyle at the controls or do they want to be seen? If they want to be seen, why so mysterious. Why not introduce themselves on believable circumstances? Those bastards are bloody tricksters, I tell ya!


Again, thanks for the OP. It's definatly interesting.