Wikileaks: Julian Assange Will Charge Sarah Palin & Mike Huckabee with "Incitements To Kill

Originally posted by purplemer
how will punishing violent hate speech be used to jail peacefu protesters... these laws are in place already...have they been used to jail peaceful protesters?

So far as I know, they have not, but given the tendency of undercover police to infiltrate peaceful protests for the sole purpose of throwing rocks and antagonizing the riot police into gassing and beating protester for a publicity stunt, you can be sure we'll see it soon. Like I said, Palin is now presented as the model case, with the convenient example of her "targeting" Giffords which we're led to believe resulted in her death. The campaign to pitch this idea has been going on for months if not years, it stretches back at least as far as Giffords having her office door smashed in. Now there's blood all over the pavement and people are ripe to accept punishment for "targeting" any public official. In fact you'd better start being very careful what you say about Obama and all future presidents, you might be charged with attempted murder if you suggest getting rid of them by electing somebody else. I realize it's a little more complicated than 1+1 but it's not a stretch by any means.

Originally posted by purplemer

Wikileaks: Julian Assange Will Charge Sarah Palin & Mike Huckabee with "Incitements To Kill

bankofamericasuck.com

The editor-in-chief of Wikileaks called on US authorities to seek charges against high-profile Republicans Sarah Palin and Mike Huckabee for “incitements to kill” by the use of “violent rhetoric” against the anti- secrecy outlet.

Julian Assange’s plea came in a press release Monday night in the aftermath of the Tucson murders Saturday that left 6 dead and 14 others wounded, the victims of which included Rep. Gabrielle Giffords (D-AZ) and federal judge John Roll.

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That's just ridiculous. It sounds like a load of horse-pucky, and not exactly straight from said horse's mouth.

Originally posted by chuckMFd
Whats the charge if it sticks? Seems like a shot in the dark. More of a publicity stunt than anythhing.

Assange could be tried under the Espionage Act of 1976 if I rmeber right. He could also be charged under other federal statutes about the recieveing and dissemination of Classified material he was not authorized to have or dsitribute. It is irrelevant where thse fuiles came from also, as the law does not make the distinction.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Well looks like i had the bead dead on with this guy from the beginning then......

Charging them with incitement to kill.......hmm better charge Obama then too eh?

This statement from him reaffirms my belief that hes only out for himself.......

Psssshhhhhh, and if you had death threats agaist you, you wouldnt want those calling for YOUR death to be prosicuted? Really? Yeah right.

Obama didnt call for Assange's, murder, I dont know why you brought him into this as it has nothing to do with it.

Oh, and would it be OK if someone killed me too because I donated to wikileaks? You post makes no sense, how does any of this make him "out for himself"? He just doesnt want to be killed.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by purplemer

 

LOLOLOLOLOLOloolololoahahahahhahahahhahalololo.....

Sure.. No problem.. This coming from someone who thinks he is above the law anyways.. Again Assange is deflecting his own legal troubles by using wikileaks, and now he is exploiting the situation in Arizona to further his goal.

I would say Assange should come here to the US to sign that complaint, but I still see we are waiting on that Spine donor for him. If it werent for the starch in his shirt, I am not sure who he could stand up straight.

Maybe Assange should worry about the 2 women he is accused of raping rather than trying tin interject himself into US politics. Of all the people to hold someone else accountibel for what they say, Julian Assange should not be anywhere close to it.

Wikileaks is using information in the same way capilists use off shore bank accounts. He is not breaking any law in doing so. But is allowing the flow of otherwise restricted or edited information..
Have you read the case notes of the women he has raped.. If so you would understand it is a minor charge amounting to no more than a condom spliting and he is not being accused by 2 women it is one women as the other women has left the country...
As for calling him spineless. He is standing up for what he beliefs in and willing to put his life on the line for it..
Have you ever done that...

kx

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Well looks like i had the bead dead on with this guy from the beginning then......

Charging them with incitement to kill.......hmm better charge Obama then too eh?

This statement from him reaffirms my belief that hes only out for himself.......

I'm not sure you read the article, he is referring to those that directly called for HIS murder (not the causal relationship of rhetoric to the Tucson tragedy discussed in MSM), which IS incitement to commit violence and does go against free speech. If president Obama directly stated that someone should get murdered, then yes, he potentially could be charged as well.

Nice of him to fight back, though, as others have stated, I won't hold my breath over any indictments.

the Billmeister

I guess these people need to be found and charged in the UK why not have an all out assault on people world wide? Great one Julian Assange just can't keep his face off the TV. He IS just like a Palin...
Here is that video calling for the heads of UK royalty OFF WITH THEIR HEADS!!

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by chuckMFd
Whats the charge if it sticks? Seems like a shot in the dark. More of a publicity stunt than anythhing.

Assange could be tried under the Espionage Act of 1976 if I rmeber right. He could also be charged under other federal statutes about the recieveing and dissemination of Classified material he was not authorized to have or dsitribute. It is irrelevant where thse fuiles came from also, as the law does not make the distinction.

He wasnt asking what charges Assange could be charge with, he asking what he could charge Palin and others for calling for his murder. I am pretty sure incitement of murder is the charge. Oh, and no way theyll charge Assange with the espionage act as they would also have to charge The New York Times among others who release cables independently from wikileaks (as in they released many cables before wikileaks publiclly release the same cables, so they did basically the same thing as assange did).

Originally posted by MisterCrowley
reply to post by MemoryShock

 

Well then Sarah Palin & Mike Huckabee should not be charged either...

i think you are falling to grasp a fundamental point here...

american laws apply to american citizens and people in america.... assange is not american....
now then sarah palin is american and she may well have broken an american law on american soil....

can you see the difference...

kx

Originally posted by purplemer

Originally posted by chuckMFd
Whats the charge if it sticks? Seems like a shot in the dark. More of a publicity stunt than anythhing.

maybe a publicity stunt...Are your politicans above the law, the charge an incitements to kill” by the use of “violent rhetoric as mentioned above...

It just shows she has more BALLS than him. He won't even release the good files and I'm no advocate of Sara Palin!

reply to post by MisterCrowley


yes.....people in the uk are charged with incitement to murder. are you trying to make a point...

kx

reply to post by purplemer


He is violating the Espionage Act as well as FEderal Statute that deals with the possession, and sitribution of classified information by those who are not allowed access to it. He is printing that information in a manner that is outside the actions of a whistle blower, in addition to relasing inforation that has absolutely no crominal wrong doing involved, which furthers the argument against his claims that he is doing this to expose criminal wrong doing by the AMerican Government.

Also, it seems tad hypocritical, and humerous in my opinion, for Assange to demand any criminal action against any person, when he himself ignores the Laws, and acts like he is above the law. This guys has a meglomania disease, and I think his entire nural network would fritz out if he was not the center of attention.

By even making this ludicrous claim, which he knows wont go anywhere, he is placing the spot light back on himself, not sarah palin. Look at this thread as an example.. The argument has spun away from palin back to asange, his statement and wikileaks.

This is all it will do. If its picked up by MSM, which he is hoping it will, the talk will focus back onto him, his legal problems, and wikileaks. What better way to do that that invokve sarah palin, charges, and incititing hate speech in a subtle effort to link the enire thing to Arizona.

He is doing it to place himself abck in the spotlight, and all of his worshippers are buying it, agian, hook line and sinker.

The sooner you guys wake up and realie assange is using you.... meh.. forget.. We have hit the blind loyalty suicide bomber mindset by his followers.

reply to post by purplemer


you are an idiot, democrats use just as much violet rhetoric as repub's, the only difference here is that some psycho decided to take it seriously and mess with everyone

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by purplemer

 

He is violating the Espionage Act

Do you know why the act was created... do you know whom it was used against... those were dark days. Do you want to see them ressurected?

Julian Assange is probably right.

Article 802 of the United States PATRIOT Act states:

‘‘(B) appear to be intended—
‘‘(i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population;
‘‘(ii) to influence the policy of a government by
intimidation or coercion; or
‘‘(iii) to affect the conduct of a government by
mass destruction, assassination, or kidnapping; and
‘‘(C) occur primarily within the territorial jurisdiction
of the United States.’’.

I think much political rhetoric could fall within the definition of the PATRIOT Act. A good reason why we should not have it and have free speech. I vote for free speech and let the individual decide as they wish. If an individual is influenced by politically motivated speakers to carry out attacks that affect the ability to conduct government than this is the exact definition of domestic terrorism. Being a statesman should not allow comments or conduct to be gauged by some arbitrary authority. Subtle messages targeted at certain populations could be all that is required to meet the definition of the PATRIOT Act.

Originally posted by freedish
reply to post by purplemer

 

you are an idiot, democrats use just as much violet rhetoric as repub's, the only difference here is that some psycho decided to take it seriously and mess with everyone

an idiot i may well be. what has that got to do with the price of break or
Inciting murder being against the law....

i am sorry if i hurt your ego... please find enclosed a big hug and some kisses to put it right

o x x x o

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reply to post by CREAM


No hes not.. Hes going through the motion of that, but its not his intent. He is doing this to being himself back into the spotlight. He does this everytime wikileaks or Assange start to drop off the radar screen. Example is his latest court appearance. Instead of dealing with the issue at hand, he annoucnes to media present more leaks are on the way.

He and his lawyer both go on a media blitz in terms of Assange being afraid to be extradited to the US becauyse he doesnt want to be sent to Gitmo, and doesnt want to be charged with treason or face the death penalty.

Assange is not stupid, and neither is his lawyer, and they both know what they satated he is afraid of is a bold face lie to the media. He is making those statements to play on the emotions of the European countries who were pissed about the Bush admiinstrations actions, which have nothing to do with Assange.

He is not a US citizen so he cant be treid for treason
He is not an enemy combatant so he cant go to gitmo
His "crime" if charged in the US is prison time if not a fine and deportation, no death penalty or as he said "the chair"

This is a PR game for him, and is using it anychance he gets, and his followers go with it, no questions asked.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by purplemer

 

He is violating the Espionage Act as well as FEderal Statute that deals with the possession, and sitribution of classified information by those who are not allowed access to it. He is printing that information in a manner that is outside the actions of a whistle blower, in addition to relasing inforation that has absolutely no crominal wrong doing involved, which furthers the argument against his claims that he is doing this to expose criminal wrong doing by the AMerican Government.

Also, it seems tad hypocritical, and humerous in my opinion, for Assange to demand any criminal action against any person, when he himself ignores the Laws, and acts like he is above the law. This guys has a meglomania disease, and I think his entire nural network would fritz out if he was not the center of attention.

By even making this ludicrous claim, which he knows wont go anywhere, he is placing the spot light back on himself, not sarah palin. Look at this thread as an example.. The argument has spun away from palin back to asange, his statement and wikileaks.

This is all it will do. If its picked up by MSM, which he is hoping it will, the talk will focus back onto him, his legal problems, and wikileaks. What better way to do that that invokve sarah palin, charges, and incititing hate speech in a subtle effort to link the enire thing to Arizona.

He is doing it to place himself abck in the spotlight, and all of his worshippers are buying it, agian, hook line and sinker.

The sooner you guys wake up and realie assange is using you.... meh.. forget.. We have hit the blind loyalty suicide bomber mindset by his followers.

Whether Assange is full of himself or not is completely irrelevant. The fact is, Palin and a number of journalists (on both sides of the political spectrum) called for his murder, and doing that is illegal. Thats all there is to it.

As I explained in my previous post, assange literally did nothing different than what large media outlets did/do, and they get away with it, so its really not that big of a deal.

Originally posted by purplemer

Originally posted by MisterCrowley
reply to post by MemoryShock

 

Well then Sarah Palin & Mike Huckabee should not be charged either...

i think you are falling to grasp a fundamental point here...

american laws apply to american citizens and people in america.... assange is not american....
now then sarah palin is american and she may well have broken an american law on american soil....

can you see the difference...

kx

His citzenship is irrelevant in this case, even more so under the espionage act and well as federal statutes for mishandeling classified information.

You dont have to be a citizen of a country in order to break their laws.

reply to post by purplemer

it's not inciting murder, its a political add...first amendment.

I guess we should ban all violent movies and video games too because they show people how to murder.

you know what, lets just get rid of the first amendment all together.