Trends analyst predicts global youth uprising, 'progressive libertarians' in 2011

Trends analyst predicts global youth uprising, 'progressive libertarians' in 2011

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An American trends analyst told a Russian news service recently that in 2011, young people from industrial societies around the world will unite on the Internet to overthrow increasingly ineffective elements of globalism that have driven their economies into depression

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This has been a long time coming. I hope that this is correct about peoples stand up to the governments of the world, I despair for the sheeple in the US though. I am beginning to doubt their ability to step back from the buffets or turn off the TV.
Celente has a pretty good track record, but he is no prophet. He is correct about the power of the internet, but that is why the governments are doing all they can to shut down the internet.

I do think he is off base with these "progressive libertarians" he believes will come into existence. Such a hybrid is untenable, it is an oxymoron. Current progressive beliefs are just plain antithetical to libertarians. For progressive views to hold sway, there must be big government. For libertarian views, there must be small, weak government. So how could such a fusion occur? Only in the world of doublethink would it be "possible".

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progressive librarians! oh noooooooo!


oh sorry miss read it

Originally posted by sonofliberty1776
I am beginning to doubt their ability to step back from the buffets or turn off the TV.

Why is it that people here on ATS always call other people "sheeple" and use the same ridiculous phrases involving food and television? Understand that the American media is NOT on our side, understand that the American government system is so corrupt now that only a massive revolution (doesn't have to be violent) will change anything. The systems of the media, American government and so on are all well-versed and equipped to stop any protest or uprising. They are working faster than people think.


Massive, large scale protest for change is the only way anything will get done.

Progressive libertarians is an oxymoron and completely incompatible within itself.

Progressives believe government can be a moral and politic force for good, whereas libertarians (in the words of Paine) believe society - not government - is a tool for good crusades. Two polar opposites.

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Because, unfortunately, many of my fellow citizens have become lardasses who do not exercise enough, eat too much, and watch "reality" tv shows. They have, and keep, their heads in the sand. Have you ever tried to wake some of them up to what is really happening? Even many close friends refuse to believe that our government wants to control us. Many of these sheep applaud the actions of the TSA and big sis. They won't even face the fact that the USA is bankrupt. I do not know what it will take to finally open their eyes, but it hasn't happened yet.

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The way I understand progressive libertarian is a human rights concious rebellion against an out of control state. Progressives usually believe the state can be used to provide for people, but the radical left is also very critical of the militaristic side of the state. This concern with human rights, and at the same time critiscism of the state is important. I have longed dream that the anti-war/green/progressive left would unite with the radical libertarian right to form a new party. How? How can someone who wants a bigger welfare state, and another who wishes no welfare state work together? The war society. If we do not end the empire the republic will fall. It already has in almost everyway. The last chance we have is to end the wars, and end central banking. The progressives are a still enamored with central banking I am afraid. Needless war can unite all moral americans. If not for the fact of genocide than the fact of the survival of our way of life.

Already here... www.abovetopsecret.com...

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We have 2 different takes, I think. You are definitely pursuing the social fallout while I am more interested in actual implementation. Oh, well...If the mods consider it an unnecessary duplication, I am sure they will decide what to do.

so who gets the flagsand stars?who cares....the post is the thing,,,
I dont see this happening, though i could see it being hyped up by the ptb as a honey trap for rounding u those whose views dont coincide with the govt.
Just another scam to dig up the names of those who are anti govt.

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I agree. The conversation is important. So leave it to the mods to combine both or leave them to follow two separate tracks.

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Maybe they mean progressive in the literal non politically affiliated form.
I thought this several years ago actually. I think we are a little behind. Especially now with governments wanting to get a grip on the net. Unless, and I hate to use the term, the powers that be (and I mean the real ones) put a stop to it this internet based restructuring is inevitable and I honestly believe a good thing.

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Very true. Must be peaceful indeed.

The hybridization would be "libertarian in the sense of government staying out of people's lives," he said, and progressive "with the government having control of issues where they can make a difference."

That explains it well enough, no oxymoron if interpreted this way.

Originally posted by john124

The hybridization would be "libertarian in the sense of government staying out of people's lives," he said, and progressive "with the government having control of issues where they can make a difference."

That explains it well enough, no oxymoron if interpreted this way.

It absolutely is. Progressives will believe that the government can help in all social areas, while the libertarian will want the government to mind their own damn business. The progressive will want more taxes gathered to help "the less fortunate" while the libertarian will want the government to "keep their hands out of my wallet, let the moochers get a job".

If I am not mistaken I remember Gerald also said that there would rise a third party in America between now and 2012. I hope he is right. He has to be right. If we don;t have a thrid party soon....

I consider myself loosely a "libertarian progressive". Voted for both Nader and Ron Paul. The ideas aren't mutually exclusive, if understood contextually. In areas of personal liberty and privacy, I am libertarian. (And vocally, enthusiastically so!) I also view my political leanings to the left in a kind of grass roots populist progressivism, whereby I agree on a host of issues with the larger "left" including but not limited to, same-sex marriage rights, opposition to the war in Iraq, as well as health care as a basic right. (Like in the rest of the 1st world)
I think many so-called libertarians are actually rich-guy mouthpieces, and could care less about individual rights. I think many so-called progressives are control freaks with little consideration for the impact of their policies, especially where the working class are concerned.

I am particularly legitimately a libertarian progressive because I vote regularly and have not wasted my vote on either of the corporately controlled parties in over 20 years.

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joechip I had a thought that Ron paul could make a big impact in the 2012 elections. He could get many of the liberals and or progressives that do not like the wars to vote for him as well as some conservatives that are fed up with the wars. He could also have on his side the people who have monetary concerns for America. Not the mention the people who want the end of the fed. there are just a whole host of issues that he could bring people in who have different party affliations.

ppl my age (20) either spend their time at clubs, at home feeding off their parents, or watching glee. Facebook IS the world to them. I have like one or two friends that i can actually talk about art, politics, or philosophy. Also finding a girl I can really connect to is very hard for me right now. But every time i come to ats , a little bit of hope enter me. Seeing things like protests in london, paris and here in the us, keeps my spirits up.

I think most of us are scared actually, our fathers left us debt, wars, and depleting resources, and somehow we have to come out ahead.

I'm glad threads like this come up, we should have the right to criticize our government. The problem is most americans cannot or do not understand how precious this is. Speaking out is important.

The internet is the last frontier of "freedom"