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I suppose it's not, which is why I asked if he was able to measure any neutrons as claimed. He said he didn't measure them but someone else did. If there's proof of someone else measuring the neutrons please share it, but if not, and none have been measured, I don't think we can assume there are neutrons being emitted as a result of this experiment.
Originally posted by OnceReturned
How do you suppose the strong nuclear force is overcome at oven temperatures?
Originally posted by michial
First of all as far as I know you can't plate aluminum with gold.
In electroplating the object to be plated is usually plated first with another element such as copper or silver e.g.
Secondly lead free solder is not just tin but also contains silver.
This in no way is to be considered as informed, educated or professional critique of your experiment. I am glad you have said that you do not wish to profit by this experiment as I have stated in other posts on other threads that I believe that the success of a free energy device depends on the intent of the inventor.
The inventor should as you have post a clear simple explanation that anyone can follow to build their own device.
If peer review or informed critique is involved no attention should be paid by the inventor as the proof will be supplied by anyone who follows the directions and succeeds.
There weren't any scientists or organizations around when the first human to build a campfire did so and taught others. I will of course warn anyone who wishes to build any device to use common sense.
Operate it in a well ventilated area. Use other safety techniques such as protective clothing and eyewear. Foremost, as soon as you try to profit from the invention such as patenting it you will fail and the device will be confiscated, hidden and banned from public use.
You will be derided and critiqued etc.
Success depends on truly altrustic motives. It also depends on exposing it en masse in public to as many people who can also build and operate it successfully.
Originally posted by OnceReturned
I'm inclined to believe it's a thermite reaction.
The dry earth is full of iron oxide which can react with aluminum and produce a ton of heat. You said you don't think it's that because you weighed it before and after, but the reaction is Fe2O3 + 2Al → 2Fe + Al2O3 + Heat, so there's no reason to think that a significant mass would be liberated as gas or otherwise. The weighing doesn't disprove the thermite explanation.
Also, what's the phosphorus component?
Are you saying it's produced, or consumed?
Have you measured the temperate throughout heating and burning?
Does it get hotter than whatever temperature it is exposed to initially?
When you weigh it before and after, are you using a gram scale?
Is there any change?
Can you repeat the process for an infinite number of cycles or just a couple?
The best way to rule out the thermite explanation would be to replace the dirt with clay.
If I understand correctly, you're claiming nuclear fusion involving lead.
What do you suppose the lead is turning into and what is it fusing with?
Also, if you run it under a cover, like an inverted glass jar, does it fizzle out?
In other words, does it consume oxygen?
If you submerge it in water, does the reaction cease?
Cold fusion is hard because fusion doesn't occur unless the atoms involved are in highly energetic states. How do you suppose the strong nuclear force is overcome at oven temperatures?
How do you suppose the strong nuclear force is overcome at oven temperatures?
I suppose it's not, which is why I asked if he was able to measure any neutrons as claimed.
He said he didn't measure them but someone else did.
If there's proof of someone else measuring the neutrons please share it, but if not, and none have been measured, I don't think we can assume there are neutrons being emitted as a result of this experiment.
On the contrary, the emissions of neutrons is an extraordinary claim that requires extraordinary evidence
So far the evidence we have is hearsay that someone else measured them but no further details, which may as well be no evidence at all, really.
Originally posted by prepared4truth
I've been following this thread and I have to say (this is to help the OP).
Your claim would be more credible if you put it in a scientific paper format, instead of a step-by-step guide on how you created this thing. Maybe you should have waited a bit longer before releasing this. A proper paper would explain fundamentals about the project which are purveyed poorly in the OP.
I'm not saying you're wrong, so there's no need to defend your ego. I'm just saying that a better format would be helpful for us and would help you catch any flaws you may have missed before.
Originally posted by aoi3610
The dry earth is full of iron oxide which can react with aluminum and produce a ton of heat. You said you don't think it's that because you weighed it before and after, but the reaction is Fe2O3 + 2Al → 2Fe + Al2O3 + Heat, so there's no reason to think that a significant mass would be liberated as gas or otherwise. The weighing doesn't disprove the thermite explanation.
You remember, this is dry earth, I see no IRON Oxide in it, I see IRON afterwards.
The can has a surface area of 150cm2, it is 300C in the oven, the surface area of the Lead is only about 1.5cm2, that is 100 times smaller. The Tin is 400 Times Smaller, the Silicon is 1600 times smaller by surface area.
300C @ 150cm2 into 0.15cm2?
Doesn't take a genius to work out it is going to be VERY hot round the SILICON.
The HEAT can only go into the centre of the can, it is coming from all direction, like a magnifying glass.
Enough time and that 300C become 3000C and more, at the centre of the can, and will continue increasing as more energy is put into the can, the hotter the Lead becomes, the hotter it want to become.
If I understand correctly, you're claiming nuclear fusion involving lead.
Yes, caused by massive heat "amplification" by surface area.
What do you suppose the lead is turning into and what is it fusing with?
Tin & Silicon, at the end of the Reaction the Lead will have released 7 Neutrons, 3 Protons & 3 Electrons into the Tin, which in turn releases the above into the Silicon.
The Lead becomes Gold, The Tin Antimony and the Silicon Phospherous.
Fraction Mass Size / Diameter Radius Element / Material
1 130g 130mm NA Dry Earth 1g/cm3
1/2 (R) 16g 65mm 32.5mm Lead - 10.x g/cm3 (+/- Solid / Liquid density)
1/4 (R) 4g 32.5mm 16.25mm Tin - 5.x g/cm3 x (+/- Solid / Liquid density)
1/8 (R) 2g 16.25mm NA Aluminium
1/16 (R) 0.5g 8.125mm 8.75mm Silicon 2.5g/cm3 (+/- Solid / Liquid density)
1/32 DARK wood
1/64 LIGHT wood
The Missing from 63/64
1/64 Tiny Plated NA GOLD 20g/cm3 (+/- depending on Liquid / Solid)
As you may know, iron oxidizes naturally; the process is commonly known as rusting.
If the dirt is from the ground and hasn't been protected or processed in some way, one would expect a substantial portion of its iron content to have oxidized naturally over time.
The iron you find afterwards is consistent with the equation above, as the iron oxide is converted into pure iron during the reaction.
Presumably, if you perform a few runs with the same sample of dirt and the process is in fact a thermite reaction, much of the iron oxide will have reacted. Thus, little to no iron oxide would be availible for additional runs.
If you perform to reaction a number times and replenish the other components but reuse the dry earth, one would expect that the reaction would not take place because the iron oxide component would be depleted. Can you try several runs with the same dry earth and see if the effect persists?
This is the part that is inconsistent with the underlying physics. Nuclear fussion requires, at a minimum, that the reacting atoms be at tens of millions of degrees kelvin.
Even in cold fussion this is the case. The defining feature of cold fusion is that a larger system is cold but there are very small pockets that reach the necessary temperatures.
At least, this is the case with fussion that has been acheived in the laboratory as well as theoretical fussion methods that are consistent with the underlying forces involved. The nuclei of atoms are stabilized by the strongest force in the universe - the strong nuclear force - and it's inconceivable to me that an oven can deliver the energy necessary to overcome this force.
Established theory is totally incompatable with what your proposing;
either you're right or mainstream physics is right.
That's not to say that your results should be ignored, on the contrary they need to be explained, just be aware that your making some bold claims and skepticism towards those claims has a strong basis in widely accepted and experimentally supported mainstream theory.
It's certainly the case that alternative explanations are much more likely than your explanation, but I appreciate your efforts none the less.
Have you been able to measure a greater mass of gold at the end of the run than the amount you started with?
The more data the better. I know it's time consuming and tedious to constantly measure and record, but it will be worth it if you're serious about this.
The table above is useful as it defines the intent quantities of your materials.
It would be extremely valuable if you could provide similar tables containing the exact actual amounts used in a run, as well as the amount present at the end.
Ideally such tables could be provided for a number of runs, in addition to the other measurable parameters for each run such as oven temperature, reaction vessel temperature before and after, and time intervals associated with each measurement.
It would also be worth including qualitative observational data for these runs. This way we could get a better picture of the energetics of the process, which could then be assessed for similarity to what would be expected from a thermite reaction and from a nuclear reaction.
On a separate note, I'm unfamiliar with this interpretation of the Eye of Horus. I see the image you have linked, but how do you associate the ratios therein with specific elements and compounds?
i.e. Why does the eyebrow represent Aluminium? And how do you know how to assemble them and what to do next?
Then, just to be clear about a couple things:
The system contains no (P)hosphorus initially as far as you can tell?
Then, after the reaction, you find some amount of P present? How much?
How can you tell it's P?
Likewise, you don't believe there is any Sb(Antimony) present initially?
Yet you find it at the end? How much?
How do you know it's Sb?
My understanding of your proposed reaction is as follows:
1) 1Pb + Heat → 7n(as radiation/heat) + 3e- + 3p+ + Au
2) 3e- + 3p+ + (3?)Sn → (1?)Sb + 2e- + 2p+
3) 2e- + 2p+ + (2?)Si → (2?)P
I'm not sure that's right. I would appreciate if you would provide something similar with your intended values.
This is an interesting project, I'm glad you've decided to share it with us. Good luck. I await your reply.
Originally posted by xmattx16
You have a physics degree but IMO you have not conducted yourself becoming of a physicist.edit on 13-1-2011 by xmattx16 because: clarifying