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Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
Masons claim to make a good man better but then they start calling each other master, etc, and that strikes me as being subservient.
This is not an attack, just an observation.
Originally posted by vinay86
One last question to you, why free masonic symbolism is used in so many Hollywood movies and music videos. what is its purpose there.
with such a small percentage of our population being masons, I would disagree that it's "part of our culture", but it is undeniably part of our history. Small mentions in history books exist. I think the fact that there is just enough mystery to make others seek us out, things are doing just fine. As long as good men come looking for what we are about, we will continue to do what we do.
One guy replied that freemasonry is part of your culture, is that true.
If it is true why it is not being taught in school curriculum.
Originally posted by network dude
reply to post by CholmondleyWarner
everything you are complaining about is done in private. We don't put on the aprons until we get inside the lodge. Or the white gloves. the only time you will see that on the outside would be at a masonic funeral. And that is a very cool thing to see. We don't force our beliefs on anyone and don't force anyone to be involved with our works. We invite anyone who is interested to come and ask questions and have a meal with us. Be it a stale sandwich, or a 4 course dinner, anyone with genuine questions is welcome.
Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
Sorry, I don't call anyone "worshipful!!"
Not now, not next week, not ever...
I leave that type of language to masons who butter up each others parsnips!
Originally posted by AugustusMasonicus
Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
Sorry, I don't call anyone "worshipful!!"
Not now, not next week, not ever...
You may not but it is obviously a fairly standard practice in your country.
I leave that type of language to masons who butter up each others parsnips!
Or your fellow citizens.
Originally posted by fordrew
reply to post by CholmondleyWarner
My friend, what I would suggest to you since you seem to be very angry and upset is to talk to a mason in person. If this person named Fritz is from the internet he may be a sham. Since you seem to be interested to have such opinions on freemasonry. Any mason will listen to you no matter how harsh you sound.
If you refuse to listen well then you are only hurting yourself.
Once and awhile it is healthy to throw your beliefs under a bus. To listen to the other side of the argument. That is the only way you learn.
If you have no interest in the subject, why have you posted 17 replies to threads about Masonry in the last two weeks?
Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
I'm not interested in freemasonry! What I find truly astounding is how freemasons believe that we are interested in them and their silly rituals! It's the arrogance, the self centred foolishness of it all that I find funny... I find myself both agreeing and disagreeing with the cult members. On one hand I laugh at the idea that anyone wearing white gloves and an apron could ever go on to organise a one world one ruler government- and on the other I hold my head in my hands when I hear those saying that you, the masons, have the ability to control world governments! No you dont! You have no more power over the governments of this world than the boy scout movement or the suffragettes... Freemasonry is not that important... It's a silly elitist boy club that you're either in the in crowd or not bothered..Nothing more.
Originally posted by fordrew
reply to post by JoshNorton
To me it seems he is obviously a troll. I would stop responding to him.
I would get the attention of a moderator to look to ban this person
Evidently if anyone reads his posts he is obviously looking to invoke an angry response from peopleedit on 6-2-2011 by fordrew because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
I think people would not be bothered by the masonic cult if it wasn't for the fact that they look utter berks dressed in white gloves and aprons! Then they beef up the secrets aspect of their group before claiming they are open and the secrets freely available, at which point they aren't secrets anymore! Masons claim to make a good man better but then they start calling each other master, etc, and that strikes me as being subservient.
Originally posted by vinay86
Originally posted by CholmondleyWarner
I think people would not be bothered by the masonic cult if it wasn't for the fact that they look utter berks dressed in white gloves and aprons! Then they beef up the secrets aspect of their group before claiming they are open and the secrets freely available, at which point they aren't secrets anymore! Masons claim to make a good man better but then they start calling each other master, etc, and that strikes me as being subservient.
Thanks for posting, I agreed with you the whole thing of dressing up in gloves and aprons and than conducting some bizarre and grotesque rituals seems very odd to me, and it is totally opposite to the beautiful messages of their mission statement. And these rituals are not absolutely necessary to impart good moral ethics.
And whole thing of Grand-master and subordinate is equally wrong, as it is the same pyramid structure followed in companies with a person at the top who knows everything and as we step down the ladder the knowledge decreases. And it is also against their law of equal treatment to all, everyone should be treated as master and should be imparted full knowledge about everything.