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Congresswoman Gifford's YouTube Channel subscribed to her assailant's channel.

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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 08:01 AM
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Originally posted by KingKeever1611
Not sure if this has been posted yet...just hope they are not talking about this site:


"An official familiar with the Arizona shooting investigation said Sunday that local authorities are looking at a possible connection between Loughner and an online group known for white supremacist, anti-immigrant rhetoric."

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Nope, not this site. Thank Goodness!

They are talking about American Renaissance, which AmRen is denying any involvement with the murderer.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 08:45 AM
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Look at Jared's only favorited video on his channel. Read the description. the description mentions the same thing about the weird bird that Jared said on myspace.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 08:53 AM
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looks like someone has hacked his youtube account.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 08:59 AM
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Nope...its a fake look at the date it was made today.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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Great catch OP! Look I've already done it, but I think everyone should screen shoot the links before they are removed. Personnally I don't think that Congresswoman Gifford ran her own youtube site. I think an aid or somthing like that linked to site to show the world who hurt the Honorable Mrs.Gifford. thats just me.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:09 AM
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Thanks for the thread op..unless it was hacked or not, either way it is still raises curiosity.
S&F
Thanks to everyone here who's doing detective work and investigating, very interesting stuff .
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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 09:15 AM
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Real channel - www.youtube.com...
Fake channel www.youtube.com... (Ciassitup10)



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 10:25 AM
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Maybe he had an affair with a staffer, not Gifford. The staffer he was involved with could of introduced him to her in 2007 at some party or gathering. Maybe the staffer he was dating also gave him inside info regarding Gifford's 'real thoughts' on issues she spoke of and it made him upset at her or maybe the staffer he was seeing was upset with Gifford over something (raise, political views ect.) and he felt he needed to do something, like shoot her. Being that "crazy" people tend to think that way as their own way of getting some type of justice to a problem. If he was a friend of Gifford why would he even do what he did?


Is the picture on the YT account a picture of Gifford? I haven't seen that picture until now as it looks like a younger picture of her if her at all. The only pictures of Gifford on TV ive seen are of her looking much older. If it is her why use such an old picture and why have the number 2 at the end of Gifford? Was/is there an original YT account prior to this one?

Maybe the staffer he was dating is the same staffer that runs/monitors the YT account for Gifford. She/he subscribed to his account just because he was the boyfriend.

2cents,
Bzzzzzzz
edit on 1/10/2011 by BuzzingOn because: Had another thought.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 11:46 AM
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I have noticed that she has a recent history up on her channel which does not indicate that the sub to his channel was done recently!

If I sub to someone new, in my recent history is shows that I subscribed to that channel.

Not sure if there is a setting that can turn off that notification or not.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 12:44 PM
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Originally posted by clay2 baraka
I doubt she personally "subscribed" at all. As was said before, it was probably a hack or the staffer knew or had corresponded with the shooter.


I think the latter would be a logical assumption. In that case, what light is shed on the situation? What, first of all, is the point of subscribing to his obscure youtube channel link? 1/2 subcriptions for account had.
Keeping in mind she is a public figure and probably doesn't manage her youtube account, then why the hell would a staffer want the public to see she was into this guys message?

If indeed it is true that he was subscribed to before the shooting (seems likely according to the evidence and screenshots provided), then we really have something strange on our hands. Duh. Well let's remember her husband is an astronaut. And also we should remember they had been acquainted prior to the shooting.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 01:11 PM
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Could he have subscribed to her channel, and perhaps she or someone excepted the request, thus connecting her account to his channel?



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 01:47 PM
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This is all super crazy to me. Good find people.
s&f



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 01:55 PM
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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 02:03 PM
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There could only be two things happening here


1) this whole thing was an inside job, a set up, where jared was the fall back.

2) Jared is just mentally ill, and even though he may have thought he was doing a good cause for mankind, he went by doing it the wrong way.

and TBH im going more along the lines of 1. because how could a young man (22) with probably no experience with guns be able to assinate 5- 6 people. Also the fact that there were other gunmen apparently which noone can idenity???


he does not show his face in the video he posted which quite frankly is very suspicious, i mean he already gave out all his info and his full name on his youtube account, why cover his face? hes trying to prove a point isnt he. seems to me like jared might have been manipulated into doing what he did. I mean that whole video just does not sit right, it make NO sense what so ever, like the paragraph he wrote was meant to just sound crazy, just like the video ( garabage bag for clothes? pig mask? walking very slow like a crazy old man? )

what im saying is do you believe that was actully jared?
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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 02:13 PM
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there are 2 Classitup10's one is Classitup10 with an L the other has a capital i in place of the L

Real one - www.youtube.com.../a
Fake one- www.youtube.com...

so someone is messing about with the youtube accounts and making fake accounts linking them together.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 02:18 PM
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Not sure it has been many years; you can see that by the age difference.

However, I also wonder if something changed as well on the set up of the profiles that would cause this. If that is the case it would affect older profiles.

I do know however that my profile never updated. This might be why her age is wrong in her profile.

Raist



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 03:03 PM
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Originally posted by OneisOne

Originally posted by KingKeever1611
Not sure if this has been posted yet...just hope they are not talking about this site:


"An official familiar with the Arizona shooting investigation said Sunday that local authorities are looking at a possible connection between Loughner and an online group known for white supremacist, anti-immigrant rhetoric."

Source


Nope, not this site. Thank Goodness!

They are talking about American Renaissance, which AmRen is denying any involvement with the murderer.


Even the slightest connection will allow the FBI to obtain a warrant to look into the private matters of ANY group. Of course, the probably find no involvement but they still get to obtain all sorts of info.
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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:24 PM
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Well that link to his channel has been removed, so someone else defiantly has access


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posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:28 PM
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I was showing a friend of mine this high strangeness and he's like 'There's only one subscription on there'. I checked it, and sure enough it's been removed in the last hour or so.

IMO, to have the subscription removed with no comment whatsoever simply adds to the suspicion.



posted on Jan, 10 2011 @ 05:33 PM
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