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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 03:05 PM
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Originally posted by teenwolf
Ok, I live in Arkansas and I have heard a lot of rumors and speculation on what has happened to the birds. So bare with me, this is all word of mouth type stuff, it may or may not be true, but if it is, I am scared to say the least.
So apparently, during the Iraq was we did find some chemical weapons, ones such as phosgene. They were brought to Pine Bluff, AR to be stored. Recently central/south AR has been experiencing many earthquakes. This is said to be a result of the government trying to bury the chemical.
On New Years Eve Night, a plane was supposedly transporting the chemicals to Afghanistan from Pine Bluff. That plane happened to fly over Bebe, AR, and its been rumored that their was some sort of accident and some of the phosgene was released, resulting in the death of the birds. I've heard it has been linked to the death of the fish in AR too. Not sure though. John Wheeler supposedly knew of all this and was going to blow the whistle on it all. We see what happened to him.
But what is really scary is a good friend of mine died today from a respiratory infection. Whats strange is he was fine yesterday and then within hours was hospitalized and died. He has also just traveled through south/central AR. Phosgene is a chemical agent that affects the respiratory system.


Good theory as we are on ATS where conspiracy theory is often discussed. Now lets see if we can try to prove it or do some more research on the weapons portion and the transportation portion first.

If the Phosgene was released did it explode twice in the air? The image flickered twice in the radar image at the same location. Was the aircraft moving very slow during that time or stationary in the air (helicopter)?

Sorry to hear about your friend's loss. My prayers with his family.

Recently central/south AR has been experiencing many earthquakes



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Originally posted by Wildeagle
Possible methane release?

Here you will find the explanation behind this thought.
poleshift.ning.com...


This would make more sense as there were recent posts on ATS with regards to the Earthquake hotspots surrounding the state of Arkansas. This would also explain the death of fishes in huge numbers in addition to the birds with the release of methane from river basins and into the air (similar to the Bermuda Triangle theory of methane leaking from the earth into the atmoshphere).
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posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 03:18 PM
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Sorry if this has been posted, but in the beginning of the segment the anchorwoman is showing this radar image:




Really looks like a triangle :S.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 03:22 PM
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Originally posted by trekwebmaster
The "plume" shown on radar reminds me of a gas release. Could this be plasma-based released from a fault? The Arkoma Belt and the current geological activity runs from this area where the plume is located up to the NE toward the boothill of Missouri and New Madrid. This is exactly the area heading NE where the cluster quakes are happening AND where all of the natural gas drilling is occurring in Arkansas.

Coincidence or not?


I think along this line too. HAARP is a good theory but just doesn't cut it for me when it comes to the death of fishes.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships
Found a very credible source with more info on this:


Military field tests—a kind of "in situ" laboratory experiment—may well account for the bizarre deaths of the birds and fish. Scalar can be projected across thousands of miles and the beam weapon could have originated anywhere in the U.S. It might even have been activated from a seaborne platform on a naval vessel.
If that is the case, then the test would be ongoing and targeting red-wing blackbirds to assess the efficacy of the beam technology could easily be carried out across Arkansas, Louisiana, and Kentucky.


www.helium.com...


Another aspect of 3D Scalar technology is the theoretical ability to create a force field bubble. If such an experiment was attempted and the flock of birds flew into that force field the aftereffects would be eerily similar to what Beebe residents witnessed


[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/22adb812b2cd.gif[/atsimg]

www.cheniere.org...


How do you explain the death of the fishes though?



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 03:42 PM
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Originally posted by trekwebmaster
This article may shed some light and blow this mystery wide-open.

Sorry for pasting this entire article, but I feel this information needs to get out so we may know the truth.

No copyright infringement is intended.

Article is listed below this line:

Fracking the life out of Arkansas and beyond
January 5th, 2011

By Rady Ananda

Jan. 7 UPDATE: Missing from this report is the information that the US military apparently drilled 500 deep wells in Central Arkansas to dispose of phosgene, a highly toxic gas that causes the respiratory system to explode. (As reported below, deep well drilling causes earthquakes.) According to the EU Times, Russia’s spy agency, GRU, reported that the US relocated 63,000 metric tons of phosgene from Iraq to the Arkansas' Pine Bluff Arsenal, the nation’s premier chemical and bio weapons lab. Some or most of this material was and continues to be relocated to Afghanistan.

The GRU report claims that while transporting the gas via a US Air Force KC-767 tanker aircraft, a “malfunction” occurred in the aerial spraying system on December 30, killing 100,000 fish along a 20-mile stretch of the Arkansas River near Roseville. The next day, on another KC-767, again the aerial spraying system “malfunctioned” killing 5,000 blackbirds near Beebe. According to CNN, "the birds suffered from acute physical trauma leading to internal hemorrhage and death." A spokesperson for the Arkansas Game and Fish Commission "said the birds showed evidence of trauma in the breast tissue, with blood clots in the body cavity and a lot of internal bleeding. All major organs were normal."

Bioweapons expert John Wheeler threatened to expose the operation and, according to GRU, was killed for it. ~ RA

(Original report):

The last four months of 2010, nearly 500 earthquakes rattled Guy, Arkansas. [1] The entire state experienced 38 quakes in 2009. [2] The spike in quake frequency precedes and coincides with the 100,000 dead fish on a 20-mile stretch of the Arkansas River that included Roseville Township on December 30. The next night, 5,000 red-winged blackbirds and starlings dropped dead out of the sky in Beebe. [3] Hydraulic fracturing is the most likely culprit for all three events, as it causes earthquakes with a resultant release of toxins into the environment. [4]

A close look at Arkansas' history of earthquakes and drilling reveals a shocking surge in quake frequency following advanced drilling. The number of quakes in 2010 nearly equals all of Arkansas' quakes for the entire 20th century. The oil and gas industry denies any correlation, but the advent of hydrofracking followed by earthquakes is a story repeated across the nation. It isn't going to stop any time soon, either. Fracking has gone global.

Hydraulic fracturing pumps water and chemicals into the ground at a pressurized rate exceeding what the bedrock can withstand, resulting in a microquake that produces rock fractures. Though initiated in 1947, technological advances now allow horizontal fracturing, vastly increasing oil and gas collection. [5] In 1996, shale-gas production in the U.S. accounted for 2 percent of all domestic natural gas production, reports Christopher Bateman in Vanity Fair. “Some industry analysts predict shale gas will represent a full half of total domestic gas production within 10 years.” [6] In 2000, U.S. gas reserve estimates stood at 177 trillion cubic feet, but ramped up to 245 tcf in 2008. These new technologies prompt experts to increase global gas reserve estimates ninefold. [7]

The grid below shows a section of the Arkansas River, with Roseville Township at bottom, where the first reports of the fish kill originated. The green lines surrounding and crossing the river indicate gas pipes, ranging from 8-20” in diameter. Any number of leaks in the pipes can explain the fish kill. Gas wells are shown by yellow ‘suns’ (see red arrows) and range from 1,500 to 6,500 feet deep. (Disposal wells, where drilling waste products are injected at high pressures, go as deep as 12,000 feet.) The red numbers next to the ‘suns’ give the number of gas wells in that spot, numbering close to 50 in this small area. [8]


(The gray numbers relate to the Township Numbering System. Each square equals one square mile. Click map for larger image.)

In December alone, over 150 earthquakes rocked Arkansas. [1] The swarm of quakes in Guy likely results from six years of intense drilling. Guy sits within the Fayetteville Shale Formation which, according to the Arkansas Geological Survey (AGS), is “the current focus of a regional shale-gas exploration and development program.” A billion cubic feet of gas has been produced from this area since 2004. [9]

Thousands of wells are in operation in North-Central Arkansas (blue section of the following map). [10] Beebe, where the bird kill occurred, is in White County and Guy is at the northern end of Faulkner Co., where the anomalous earthquakes continue.

Red-winged blackbirds roost in clusters up to a million or more birds, often with other species like starlings and cowbirds. (In the 1950s and ’60s, roosts could number 20 million birds.) Blackbirds prefer low, dense vegetative cover in wetlands or near streams. Though some may perch 30 feet above the water, most perch within one to two feet of it, and some will roost with their feet resting in water. Blackbirds can range up to 50 miles a day from roost to feeding sites, but they all settle in for the night before sunset. [11]

An earthquake of whatever scale can release a stream or cloud of gas and fracking chemicals which could easily explain why sleeping birds would suddenly take flight, and then quickly die as they succumbed to the toxic fumes. Of note, eight measured quakes within 40 miles of Beebe, and within 75 miles of Roseville, hit the area on December 30 thru several minutes past midnight on January 1st. [12] This excludes any micro- or miniquakes which can have the same effect. Significantly, the area is known for its prolific microquakes -- numbering 40,000 since 1982. [1]

Canadian Geologist Jack Century crusades against induced seismicity from irresponsible drilling. In a 2009 speech before the Peace River Environmental Society, he provided a brief explanation of how fracking induces earthquakes, completely refuting industry denial that fracking causes quakes. Fracking induces not only micro- and mini-seismic actions that can compromise the integrity of well casings, but also large earthquakes registering on the order of 5 to 7 on the Richter Scale, resulting in human deaths. [13]

Scott Ausbrooks, geohazards supervisor for AGS, told CNN in December that while earthquakes aren’t unusual in Arkansas, the frequency is. [14] Indeed, they’ve had a 1,200 percent increase in earthquakes over 2009 data just in the last four months of 2010. All of the quakes registered less than 3 on the Richter Scale; over 98% of them occurred near Guy, where we find the largest concentration of gas wells; and 99% occurred outside the New Madrid Fault zone (circled in red below) where seismic activity is expected, implying they are human induced [1]:

Though AGS publicly claims no earthquake relation to drilling, in early December, Arkansas banned new drilling permits until further notice.

CNN reported that “According to the Arkansas Oil and Gas Commission, there are at least a half dozen ‘disposal wells’ within a 500-square-mile zone around Guy.” Ausbrooks noted similar “incidents in Colorado in the 1960s at Rocky Mountain Arsenal, where deep water injection was tied to earthquakes.” [14]
Arkansas Earthquake and Drilling History

When comparing Arkansas' earthquake history with its drilling history, a causative correlation becomes obvious.

The entire 19th century saw 15 recorded earthquakes and none in the first decade of the new century. A total of 694 quakes rocked Arkansas in the 20th century. That number was surpassed in 2009-2010, with the bulk (483) occurring the last three months of 2010. Table 1 was prepared using complete quake data thru 2009 [15], complete data from August thru December, 2010 [1], and just North Central Arkansas quake data from January thru July, 2010. [16]

Arkla, Inc., through its many morphs, mergers and acquisitions, is and has been a key gas driller in Arkansas. Between 1975 and the early 1980s, the company found more gas than it produced. By 1982, Arkla was able to sell Central Louisiana Electric Company more than 100 million cubic feet of gas daily. By the early 1990s, it operated the sixth-largest pipeline system in the United States and was among the ten largest operators of natural gas reserves. [17] Its production timeline coincides with the massive jump in earthquakes in the 1970s and 1980s. Today, 37 companies drill for gas and oil in Arkansas. [18]
Unregulated Fracking on a Global March

The U.S. and Canada are not alone in exploiting this highly destructive technology. Poland also embraces fracking. Several energy companies are currently exploring Poland’s reserves, including Conoco-Phillips, ExxonMobil, Marathon, Chevron, Talisman, Lane Energy, BNK Petroleum, Emfesz, EurEnergy Resources, RAG, San Leon Energy and Sorgenia E&P. [19] These new technologies will significantly impact the global trade in natural gas, according to Forbes [20]:

“Poland consumes 14 billion cubic meters of gas a year and imports more than 70% of it from Russia. It is easy to see how the country could benefit from starting shale gas drilling as soon as possible. Not only could it decrease its dependency on Russia, it might even turn into a gas exporter.”

Bateman noted that Western and Central Europe have leased their lands to frackers. Australians are suffering from the same frack contaminations as Americans, and China is also exploiting the new technology. [6]

Josh Fox’s 2010 film, Gasland, documents a multitude of harmful consequences on animal and human life, as well as property values. The most infamous scene shows people able to ignite their contaminated tap water [21]:

Fox makes the point that Dick Cheney’s former company, Halliburton, lobbied for and won exemptions from the Clean Air Act, the Clean Water Act, Superfund, and the Safe Drinking Water Act, thanks to our corporate-owned Congress.

Nor do drillers have to disclose the toxic chemicals used, contrary to the 1986 Emergency Planning and Community Right-to-Know Act. [22] Though it did not hesitate to pass on Wall Street's gambling debts to the public (twice), Congress has not found the will to pass the Fracturing Responsibility and Awareness of Chemicals (FRAC) Act.

In 2004, the Environmental Protection Agency determined that fracking poses no threat to water supplies and that no further studies were needed. [23] From some Orwellian nightmare, however, at least 65 of the chemicals used in fracking are considered hazardous by the EPA. They have been linked to “cancer; liver, kidney, brain, respiratory and skin disorders; birth defects; and other health problems,” according to a 2005 report by the Oil and Gas Accountability Project. Of primary concern to citizens, OGAP notes that “Approximately half of the water that Americans rely on for drinking comes from underground sources.” [24]

Wyoming took a proactive stance on full disclosure of fracking chemicals when it passed new rules in September. Loopholes, however, still allow companies to claim proprietary ownership of such information, restricting it from public view. [25]

Given the EPA’s position that fracking is safe, it’s not likely that Arkansas citizens will get much help from the federal government. Nor will they find a friend at the state level. The Arkansas Department of Environmental Quality has so far been unwilling or unable to stop UMETCO Minerals Corporation from illegally dumping toxic chemicals into streams. [26]

The same situation applies across the nation where state governments protect industry over environmental and human health. Recently, outgoing Governor David Paterson vetoed legislation that would have put a moratorium on vertical and horizontal hydraulic drilling in New York. [27] Already, Pennsylvania leases a third of its public lands to private energy drillers. [21]

Given government bias toward energy giants, and BP's destruction of the Gulf of Mexico is a case in point, more direct action may be required by citizens, if environmental and human health are to be saved from the fossil fuel industry.

Rady Ananda holds a B.S. in Natural Resources from The Ohio State University's School of Agriculture.
Notes:

1. Arkansas Geological Survey, “Arkansas Earthquake Updates.” www.geology.ar.gov...

2. Arkansas Geological Survey, “2009 Earthquakes.” www.geology.ar.gov...

3. Food Freedom, “Massive fish kill and 1000s of birds fall from the sky in Arkansas,” 2 Jan. 2010. foodfreedom.wordpress.com...

4. Earthworks, “Hydraulic Fracturing and Earthquakes.” www.earthworksaction.org...

Also see:

Ben Cassleman, “Temblors Rattle Texas Town: Residents Suspect a Drilling Boom Is Triggering Small Quakes, but Scientists Lack Proof,” Wall Street Journal, 12 June 2009. online.wsj.com...

James Glanz, “Deep in Bedrock, Clean Energy and Quake Fears,” New York Times, 23 June 2009. www.nytimes.com...

James Glanz, Video: “The Danger of Digging Deeper,” New York Times, 23 June 2009. www.nytimes.com...

5. U.S. Department of Energy, “Hydraulic Fracturing White Paper,” June 2004. www.epa.gov...

6. Christopher Bateman, “A Colossal Fracking Mess,” Vanity Fair, 16 June 2010. www.vanityfair.com...

7. Martin Walker, “Russia’s Fracked Future,” UPI, 1 Feb. 2010. www.upi.com...

8. Arkansas Geological Survey, “Fayetteville Shale Gas Play West Map,” Last updated 2 March 2010. www.geology.ar.gov...×44.pdf

9. Arkansas Geological Survey, “Gas.” www.geology.ar.gov...

10. Arkansas Geological Survey, “Fayetteville Shale Gas Play.” www.geology.ar.gov...

11. Brooke Meanley, “The Roosting Behavior of the Red-Winged Blackbird in the Southern United States,” Wilson Bulletin, Vol. 77 No.3, pp 217-228, Sept. 1965. elibrary.unm.edu...

12. U.S. Geological Survey, “Map Centered at 35°N, 93°W” Accessed Jan. 5, 2010: earthquake.usgs.gov...

13. Jack Century, “Earthquake Risks: Building a Nuclear Power Plant near Peace River, Alberta,” Peace River Environmental Society, May 2009 (71 mins.) peaceriverenvironmentalsociety.org...; 8-part video at www.youtube.com...

14. CNN, “Arkansas Earthquakes,” 13 Dec. 2010. www.wibw.com...

15. Arkansas Geological Survey, “Earthquake Archive,” 2009. www.geology.ar.gov...

16. Arkansas Geological Survey, “Recent and Historical Earthquakes in North-Central Arkansas,” October 2010 www.geology.arkansas.gov...

17. Funding Universe, “Arkla Inc.” n.d. www.fundinguniverse.com...

18. Manta.com, “37 Drilling Oil and Gas Wells Companies in Arkansas,” n.d.
www.manta.com...

19. STRATFOR, “Poland: Fracing On The Rise?” Forbes Magazine, 1 June 2010. blogs.forbes.com...

20. TREFIS Team, “ConocoPhillips Has Big Fracking Plans For Poland, Stock Has Upside,” Forbes Magazine, 14 Dec. 2010. blogs.forbes.com...

21. Josh Fox, Gasland, 2010. www.gaslandthemovie.com... See trailer showing ignited tap water at www.youtube.com...

22. Sarah Collins and Tom Kenworthy, “Energy Industry Fights Chemical Disclosure: Natural gas companies want to prevent oversight of fracking,” Center for American Progress, April 2010. www.americanprogress.org...

23. U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, “Evaluation of Impacts to Underground Sources of Drinking Water by Hydraulic Fracturing of Coalbed Methane Reservoirs Study,” June 2004. water.epa.gov...

24. Lisa Sumi, “Our Drinking Water at Risk: What EPA and the Oil and Gas Industry Don’t Want Us to Know about Hydraulic Fracturing,” Oil and Gas Accountability Project, April 2005. www.earthworksaction.org...

25. Earthworks, Powder River Basin Resources Council, “Wyoming Requires Disclosure of Chemicals in Natural Gas Drilling,” 16 Sep 2010. earthworksaction.org...

26. Karoline Wightman, “UMETCO Minerals Corp not yet fined for releasing chemicals,” Fox News, 16 Nov. 2010. www.fox16.com...

27. Tom Zeller, “New York Governor Vetoes Fracking Bill,” New York Times, 11 Dec. 2010. green.blogs.nytimes.com...
Tags: air pollution, arkansas, bird kill, earthquakes, energy, environment, epa, fish kill, fracking, hydraulic fracturing, hydrofracking, induced seismicity, new york, obama and company, pennsylvania, pollution, sustainable practices, texas, water pollution, wyoming

Source: www.thepeoplesvoice.org...


Now thats what I call a research. This would definitely make sense.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 05:56 PM
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Originally posted by hp1229
Now thats what I call a research. This would definitely make sense.

No, it's not research and it does not make sense.
The ONLY source for the GRU report, which supposedly links the deaths with phosgene and Wheeler, is Sorcha Faal, who is the Russian equivalent of "The Onion."

Sorcha Faal stories are spoofs.

Anyone who repeats claims invented by Sorcha Faal is no better than someone repeating April Fools jokes as theories.

Next well be hearing the birds died because the drought killed off the spaghetti trees.



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by Kailassa

Originally posted by hp1229
Now thats what I call a research. This would definitely make sense.

No, it's not research and it does not make sense.
The ONLY source for the GRU report, which supposedly links the deaths with phosgene and Wheeler, is Sorcha Faal, who is the Russian equivalent of "The Onion."

Sorcha Faal stories are spoofs.

Anyone who repeats claims invented by Sorcha Faal is no better than someone repeating April Fools jokes as theories.

Next well be hearing the birds died because the drought killed off the spaghetti trees.


I was just going to say more or less exactly that! Thumbs up!



posted on Jan, 12 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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Originally posted by Highergrounds

Weather radar shows something unusual around time birds fell


www.todaysthv.com

NORTH LITTLE ROCK, Ark. -- A weather radar screen doesn't just show the weather, apparently. The National Weather Service in North Little Rock examined a speck on the radar that showed up around the same time hundreds of birds fell out of the sky from alleged trauma on New Year's Eve.

Today's THV reporter Lauren Clark talked to Science and Operations Officer Chris Buonanno at the NWS who says that the speck on the picture is definitely not precipitation.

"There are some indications that we're picking up a non-precipitation target. It has some similarities to say, like a collection o
(visit the link for the full news article)



Hi All,

Here is something that really caught my eye.
Has anyone seen or heard this.

Top US Official Murdered After Arkansas Weapons Test Causes Mass Death
Arkansas Weapons Test


Black Swan Killing Birds, Fish, People!


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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 02:19 AM
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It's really frustrating to see this spoof article from Sorcha Faal repeated over and over.
The videos you link to are just a machine reading of his article.
There is no reason to believe phosgene is being buried in Arkansas, no reason to believe Wheeler had any involvement or connection to this, and no reason to believe there ever was a GRU report on the matter.

Please, everyone, check your sources. It's April Fools every day when people keep reposting this stuff after it's been debunked a dozen times.

Sorcha Faal can be appropriately pronounced Sucha Fool.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 09:53 AM
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Originally posted by Kailassa

Originally posted by hp1229
Now thats what I call a research. This would definitely make sense.

No, it's not research and it does not make sense.
The ONLY source for the GRU report, which supposedly links the deaths with phosgene and Wheeler, is Sorcha Faal, who is the Russian equivalent of "The Onion."

Sorcha Faal stories are spoofs.

Anyone who repeats claims invented by Sorcha Faal is no better than someone repeating April Fools jokes as theories.

Next well be hearing the birds died because the drought killed off the spaghetti trees.


oops...forgot the Sorcha Faal factor. I have been reading sevearl threads for the past few years but only decided to respond to posts recently. How can I have been so ignorant. Yes. She is definitely out there in a league of her own.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 10:18 AM
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I don't buy the GRU story one bit. Since when had the russian military been so open with secrets??? This is russia we are talkin about. Secrecy and russian habits do not change overnight.

But what's with Socha Fal tirades? Read those reports from credible sources please and then make up your minds on your own free will. For once deny ignorance.

The pathetic whines about Sorcha Fal is getting tiresome. Just because some theory came from her does not mean every supporting evidences such as the geological situations and chemical control, etc from credible sources are lies. Anyone who belives such is just either lazy or contend to be ignorant, more so when the facts are already placed before one's eyes.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 02:15 PM
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To me, this appears as 2 pulses with accompanying discharges. But it's definitely stationary except for the trail. this leads me to believe, seeing how it was not following the path of the weather, there may be another force acting on it.

Has anyone compared this radar image to natural magnetic field lines?



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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While it might be true that the Arkansas bird deaths are due to clandestine military experiments, I don't see how that could be linked to the bird as well as fish deaths all over the world. From a casual but logical observation, it seems to be that the birds are dying because of something airborne. On the other hand, dead fishes numbering millions have been reaching the shores of countries that are in different
continents. Regarding the fish incidents, we should bear in mind that the countries that have reported the fish deaths are all developed countries that have the capacity to sense minimal variations. It's likely that it's beginning to happen in other countries that are busy with other more important businesses.

To be more specific, there's a theory that I've accidentally stumbled upon while researching randomly. It's caught my eye because it attempts to explain the radar anomalies. This writer's claiming that Russia's Ministry for Extraordinary Situations have found that noctilucent space flouds have entered deep into the earth's atmosphere, as a result of the ever-weakening magnetosphere. However, there's no link to the report itself !

Also, if the magnetosphere acts as a shield for the ozone layer, that means it would allow more harmful particles to pass through the hole in the ozone layer. Excess UV radiation coming in through the ozone hole could affect marine environment / ocean temperature. Again, the ozone hole, so far as I know, is a specific area in the ionosphere over our earth. So, I don't see how an ozone hole over Antarctica could change ocean temperature in the UK / Australia.

Rather, it seems more logical that the slowly-incurring magnetic pole shift is weakening earth's magnetosphere and letting in noctilucent clouds as well as excess UV radiation.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 03:59 PM
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Well, it's a rather sound theory you got there, but if it would have been any hazardous materials bypassing earth's natural shield by the ozon hole, it would have been a rather local event. I am with you on the fact ,bearing in mind my previous posts, that the cause is airborne. And I wouldn't link the fish to it, they are pretty much explained and probably linked to BP cooling down the gulf stream and the pretty harsh winter we're currently having.

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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 04:07 PM
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Originally posted by boondock-saint
(...)
After seeing that 3-D radar image posted of those
birds 9.4 miles wide. There appeared to be some
event happening at a higher elevation over the birds.
The shape of that anomaly looked similar to a blackhole
or vortex.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/6bf9d1a21f52.png[/atsimg]

If the scale is accurate in the pic,
that make this vortex about 3 miles wide.
That is 1 big vortex.

[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/8d59fc0eb128.jpg[/atsimg]

So, my suspicion about microburst(or its bigger cousin - macroburst) was probably correct...
sigh, now, go back to haarp talk.
fishes deaths are not covered by m/mbursts anyway..
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posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 04:10 PM
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It would be a lot more compelling if you guys wouldn't just post the pictures but also quote a traceable source so that people could research the theory...



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 05:22 PM
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ATS at it's best:

HAARP
Chemtrails
Scalar Weapon
Aliens(cloaked)
Unidentified invisible "creatures"
Crop Circles
Laser Weapons
Errant Meteor
Hypersonic Aircraft
Nuclear Detonation
Sorcha Faal

Nobody has mentioned Satan yet.
Or the Nazgul.



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 05:39 PM
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Couldn't it of been a hurricane or a tornado? iv heard that this is possible? just throwing it out there



posted on Jan, 13 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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Originally posted by mrwiffler
ATS at it's best:

HAARP
Chemtrails
Scalar Weapon
Aliens(cloaked)
Unidentified invisible "creatures"
Crop Circles
Laser Weapons
Errant Meteor
Hypersonic Aircraft
Nuclear Detonation
Sorcha Faal

Nobody has mentioned Satan yet.
Or the Nazgul.









What the heck are the Nazgul? Are they related to the Goa'uld?




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