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The reason I havn't gone through them line by line is because, they are not serious replies
The existence of deep continental roots and the absence of a continuous, global asthenosphere to "lubricate" plate motions, have rendered the classical model of plate movements untenable.
Also he is unable to explain " Weather as a Force Multiplier " .
New Concepts in Global Tectonics Newsletter, no. 55, June, 2010 4 ESSAY FALLING PLATE TECTONICS – RISING NEW PARADIGM: SALIENT HISTORICAL FACTS AND THE CURRENT SITUATION
Karsten M. STORETVEDT Institute of Geophysics, Univ. of Bergen, Bergen, Norway
[email protected] Abstract:
To the mass of Earth scientists, drifting continents and plate tectonic principles are currently regarded the ultimate geological world picture. But how many have actually bothered to look critically at the actual history, and factual necessity, behind the super-mobile tectonic revolution that took place some four to five decades ago? Nonetheless, it has been extremely detrimental to a sound development of the Earth sciences that plate tectonics triumphed before critical tests had been performed – becoming soon so seductive that, in practice, it has remained immune to demolition by even the strongest counter-instances. Despite the fact that all critical tests have failed – having made plate tectonics a crisis-ridden construct already by the late 1970s, an almost pathological conservatism has enabled the 'beloved' hypothesis to stumble along, turning global geology into a classical zombie science. The purported simplicity of plate tectonics and the model's promised capacity to unify the Earth sciences are long gone. This essay deals with some critical aspects in the history of continental drift and plate tectonics, ending up with proposing a new paradigmatic platform for understanding and future research.
You provide a paper and you expect a certain answer and when others won't lie like you expect them to you have a hissy fit. Go ahead and whimper and cry. It's good for you. I simply won't be a liar like people that think that this paper is related to HAARP.
Originally posted by truthseeker2000
Now stereologist has nothing to say. He can lie only upto a certain limit but what now? I don't know what he will get by safeguarding dangerous secrets. I have clearly stated how Tesla is relevant here. Also he is unable to explain " Weather as a Force Multiplier " . If this does not mean Weather Modification then what is the Intention of US Air Force?
Small Input, Big Effect' HAARP zaps the ionosphere where it is relatively unstable. A point to remember is that the ionosphere is an active electrical shield protecting the planet from the constant bombardment of high-energy particles from space. This conducting plasma, along with Earth's magnetic field, traps the electrical plasma of space and holds it back from going directly to the earth's surface, says Charles Yost of Dynamic Systems, Leicester, North Carolina. "If the ionosphere is greatly disturbed, the atmosphere below is subsequently disturbed.". Another scientist interviewed said there is a super-powerful electrical connection between the ionosphere and the part of the atmosphere where our weather comes onstage, the lower atmosphere. One man-made electrical effect - power line harmonic resonance - causes fallout of charged particles from the Van Allen (radiation) belts, and the falling ions cause ice crystals (which precipitate rain clouds).
You have a naive faith in peer review
I now see in Karsten Storetvedt’s descriptions of the Caribbean a similar problem. His arguments come straight off the back of a reading of the commentary of James and Lorente. He states: “as a wide range of regional and larger scale geophysical and geological information is omitted from their re-evaluation, the arena is open for alternative non-plate tectonic solutions.” The arena would be well and truly shut had he a full appreciation of the available facts about the Caribbean region at the level of detail required. Not once does Professor Storetvedt talk specifically about the ages of rocks, of their chemistry, their inferred tectonic setting and actually challenge what is wrong with the current interpretations. He has not seen beyond his own model of wrench tectonics and ridden roughshod over what we know. Indeed, what of all the other proofs, aside from his bugbear, palaeomagnetism, that show Plate Tectonic theory to be rather sound? What is wrong with what radiometric dating or geochemistry tells us? Or the stories trapped in the sedimentary record, in faunal associations, ophiolites, high-pressure belts and suture zones, even in geophysical surveys?
Can you answer now?
This paper is directly related to HAARP and HAARP is a part of this weather modification technology any person can see that
Any fool can analyze the similarities between the above statements and deduce that all of these are weather modification technologies and govt. is using them under the guise of enhancing communications.
If we see the recent floods in brazil, srilinka, austrailia where hundreds have died and 1000s are missing. How scientists describe these events is low pressure areas being formed which caused high rainfall, but would they tell you what really caused formation of those low pressure areas, NO.
but some people have egoistical, offensive and authoritative way of putting things forward
Fig. 4.12 - Seafloor Spreading (115.0K)
Fig. 4.14 - Marine Magnetic Anomalies (61.0K)
Fig. 4.16 - Origin of Magnetic Anomalies (46.0K)
Fig. 4.18 - Age of the Sea Floor (59.0K)
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by vinay86
So you think that the ionosphere is where weather occurs? You need to go read about weather.
Did i have ever said weather is formed in ionosphere, you probably have read nothing about HAARP. It transmits high frequency electromagnetic beam in the ionosphere that lifts the targeted area of the ionosphere due to heating up of the particles in it. As a result a depression region is formed in the ionosphere which is reflected all the way to the troposphere (cloud formation occurs), water vapor accumulates in this depression in the troposphere and condenses into water droplets and when they become heavy they fall into the targeted area causing heavy rainfall.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by JohhnyBGood
You have a naive faith in peer review
Obviously you don't understand how peer review works. You have a naive acceptance of anything that complains about the status quo.
Now if you have any valid proof that high frequency electromagnetic beams have no impact on electrically charged particles in ionosphere than reply back, just saying no would not help in supporting your counter claims.
Animals have been subjected to all sorts of EM frequencies in safety tests and in tests of animal navigation. Tests include putting animals into extremely low magnetic environments. They didn't die.
Offering these news reports about floods that kill 12 and 13 shows how ridiculous it is to use weather warfare. It is not focused and of limited value. It's laughable to think that a storm that kills off a handful of people that are unknowns is useful.
I don't believe in the NWO or alien invasions.
Your claims are based on repeating what someone claims instead of going to the source. For example, you link to a place that claims a person made a particular type of statement. Go to the person in question and show where this is stated.
Capabilities Of Haarp
The most important omission of all was the contents of the document PL/GP Technical Memorandum No. 195, which fell into Manning's hands and which contains essential information the reader cannot look up, since it is unavailable to the public. The essence of this memorandum should have been reproduced verbatim.
Seven capabilities of HAARP are listed on pp. 146-7, viz:
• HAARP could provide a tool to replace the electromagnetic pulse produced by nuclear explosions carried out in the thin upper atmosphere;
• it could replace the Pentagon's huge Extremely Low Frequency (ELF) submarine communication system;
• it could be used as an over-the-horizon radar system;
• the highly ionized ionosphere would reflect communications that normally go through it;
• it could provide wide-area earth-penetrating tomography which, with computer systems, would be of use in verifying some arms control agreements;
• it could provide a tool for geographical probing for oil, gas, and mineral deposits over a wide area;
• it could be used to detect low-level incoming aircraft and cruise missiles.
Some of the above capabilities require transmitters other than the HAARP transmitter. HAARP would set up a fully (or almost fully) ionized layer. The other transmitter(s) might be located far from HAARP and would beam their fury or messages at the ionized layer. The electromagnetic pulse could be a reflection from the ionosphere emanating from a quite distant high-powered pulsed radar transmitter, or from several such transmitters. ……..
Implications For World Security And Arms Control
The strongest objections likely to be raised against HAARP are:
• that the ionosphere is not something an elite group may rightfully alter, especially in ways that might not be reversible. Very high energizing of particles could result in irreversible loss to the planetary atmosphere;
• that it is unacceptable to block other people's communication - even testing such a technique might be viewed as an act of war;
• the electromagnetic pulse is unacceptable for the same reason;
• there appears to be a real danger of weather modification stemming from HAARP used at high power, which would likely violate the Environmental Modification Treaty; there is not enough scientific information yet to assess this possibility; the connection between the ionosphere and weather or climate is difficult to assess;
• the primary HAARP transmission itself is highly dangerous to anyone intercepting the HAARP beam, including the side lobes. As the HAARP beam progressively ionizes the upper atmosphere, it will itself increasingly be reflected back downwards. These reflected waves also are likely to be dangerous and could produce effects analogous to those arising from improperly shielded microwave ovens. There is likely a cancer hazard. Birds and other residents within a few hundred kilometres of HAARP may be subject to radiation that could cause them harm. Health organizations should be involved;
• there is a whole range of biological ELF effects that will stem from the ELF communications system or a similar system. It is known, but not well enough known, that there are ELF frequency ranges within which people's brains and therefore their behavior is affected. These are known as beta, alpha, theta, and delta waves. The whole question of the effects of such slowly alternating fields (not waves) is tackled in Chapter 22. This area will fascinate readers and may be a central part of the Pentagon's attempt to develop a biological warfare capability, so that the question needs to be raised whether HAARP violates the convention forbidding such warfare in its ELF applications. ……….
Next Steps
…draw HAARP and all its associated programs to the attention of the NonProliferation, Arms Control and Disarmament Division of our Department of Foreign Affairs. They already have heard of it, but they don't know anything about it and this is hardly surprising considering the dearth of clear scientific information about the military applications. Legal opinions are needed on the implications of HAARP as a violator of international agreements, as mentioned in this article, but also probably others. In addition, HAARP should be drawn to the attention of the United Nations' Committee on the Peaceful Uses of Outer Space.
But first we need a thorough scientific study of HAARP that would assess technically what is a real danger and what is not going to be of any political significance. Since the HAARP antenna is dangerous per se, it is unlikely that opposition to HAARP will disappear. In fact, the dangers of the high-power transmissions themselves should be the first point of challenge.
As for peer review - consensus Geology is a club, where dissenting opinions are simply not welcome, that is human nature and organised institutional academia is no different than any other group of people.
The atmospheric layers of earth are not separated from each other by a large distance, instead they are held together closely by earths gravitation field. And hence if one layer is affected, the same happens to every other layer.
Really, where is your evidence on that, there is plenty of proof out there for EM fields affecting animals.
If you are a scientist than you are an absolute disgrace to that profession. Scientists have humbleness and are good hearted.
Loss of life is loss of life, whether one or thousands, but you don't care about it..... Elites have infinite resources in their hands they dont care while wasting it on killing one or many.
I suggest you go to the original person and instead you continue to report what third parties have made up.
Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by vinay86
You have no idea what you are talking about. The ionosphere is not well connected to the troposphere. Your notions here are based on personal guesses. I grant you another F.
The question on how animals navigate during migrations involves all sorts of tests from low to high intensity fields to see if the migration ability is affected. Nothing died. You contention is that this poppycock site is legitimate. I am giggling because the site discusses the influence of sound waves, not EM on mammals. Next time at least pick a site that addresses the topic at hand.
Pflomm [138] stated that when a frog's heart was placed in a shortwave field, the beat became slower and that contractions lessened with the diastolic beat finally ceasing; but if the field were switched off, the heart gradually resumed its activity. Hill and Taylor [76], on the other hand, repeated Pflomm's work, showing that weak, high-frequency fields at wavelengths of 600, 22, and 6 m would increase the excitability of a nerve-muscle preparation, whereas stronger currents produced a depression of excitability. They showed that similar effects could be produced by a hot wire placed near the nerve and concluded that the mode of action of the high-frequency current on the nerve-muscle preparation is thermal. These researchers also demonstrated that the effects observed by Pflomm on the frog's heart were identical to that obtained when the frog's heart was warmed by conventional means. The first study on the effects of microwaves on living mammalian tissue was conducted by the Armed Forces in answer to a morale problem by Daily [29], Follis [45], and Lidman and Cohn [109]. The studies were meant to dispel fears of possible ill effects of EM radiation upon personnel connected with radar work. The reports, which indicated no ill effects, were concerned only with the exposure of animals to radar pulses. Later, Richardson et ale [145] were able to induce lenticular opacities in the eyes of rabbits and dogs exposed at a distance of 5.08 cm. Daily et ale [31] also were able to produce cataracts and other eye-tissue damage in rabbits, and Imig et ale [83] were able to produce testicular degeneration in rats exposed to the same generator. Oldendorf [128] performed one of the earliest studies on the effect of microwaves on the CNS.
Effects # Animal cells that divide rapidly suffer the most serious damage during acute exposure. Cells in bone marrow and lymphatic tissue, for example, are especially vulnerable, as are the fast-dividing cells in the lining of the mammalian gastrointestinal tract. Massive doses of radiation can cause diarrhea, vomiting, internal bleeding, anemia, exhaustion, permanent sterilization and death. Exposure to high levels can also cause permanent damage to cellular DNA that could potentially result in cancer. The effects in mice have perhaps been studied most extensively, since mice were used in many experiments with radiation.
There are death of animals, birds being reported from many parts of the world, i believe all those birds and animals are dead due to tampering with earth natural terrestrial electromagnetic frequency, they have the technology to do that and much more.
Animals have been subjected to all sorts of EM frequencies in safety tests and in tests of animal navigation. Tests include putting animals into extremely low magnetic environments. They didn't die.