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LOS ANGELES (Reuters) – A federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday that a San Diego war memorial marked by a four-story-tall Christian cross on public land violates the U.S. constitutional ban on government endorsement of religion. Capping a legal dispute brewing since the late 1980s, the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals reversed a lower-court decision that threw out a legal challenge to the hilltop cross brought on behalf of Jewish war veterans.
The site of the 43-foot-tall cross overlooking the Pacific was acquired from the city of San Diego by the federal government through eminent domain in 2006.
The transfer was authorized in legislation passed by Congress and signed into law by then-President George W. Bush after the city was ordered to remove the cross under a previous court challenge.
The first cross on Mount Soledad was erected in 1913 but was replaced in the 1920s with another one that blew down in 1952. In 1954, a third, larger cross was installed.
The site served as a gathering place for annual Easter services and was designated as a war memorial in the late 1980s only after the legal dispute was initiated.
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
What about all the OTHER crosses on federal property, so-called "war memorials...."
....All the crosses in Arlington National Cemetery.
Originally posted by glome
reply to post by dr_strangecraft
There are no crosses at Arlington National Cemetary. Common misconception.
Originally posted by CX
Originally posted by glome
reply to post by dr_strangecraft
There are no crosses at Arlington National Cemetary. Common misconception.
I'm a Brit and certainly no expert on the subject, but....do a Google search for "Crosses at Arlington Cemetary", there are quite a few.
www.google.co.uk...
CX.
Argonne Cross
Through the efforts of the Argonne Unit American Womens Legion, the Argonne Cross was erected to their memory and in their honor. It is situated in the southwest corner of Section 18 and faces east. A grove of 19 pine trees are on 3 sides of the Cross (North, West and South). These trees are symbolic of the Argonne Forest where many of the men fought. At the juncture of the arm and stem of the cross is carved, in low relief, an eagle and wreath. The inscription on the east side of the base reads: IN MEMORY OF OUR MEN IN FRANCE 1917 1918 The inscription on the west side of the base reads: ERECTED * THROUGH * THE * EFFORTS * OF * THE ARGONNE * UNIT * AMERICAN * WOMENS * LEGION
Originally posted by CX
There is a US constitutional ban on governmental religious endorsment?
How does that work with the whole "In God we trust" on the money then?
CX.
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
reply to post by Annee
This one looks pretty permanent to me, having been erected in 1921....
There are no crosses at Arlington National Cemetary. Common misconception.
Originally posted by pplrnuts
I say, get rid of ALL of the ridiculous religious nonsense out there everywhere.
You can have all the "freedom of religion" that you want, just keep the NONSENSE to YOURSELVES!!! Theres your freedom of religion. I, and MANY others, ALSO want freedom of religion... freedom [color=skyblue]FROM HEARING OR SEEING any of the ridiculous religion's symbols and nonsense.
Keep it to yourselves. Religion and its symbols are nothing but problems anyways. Do away with all of it.edit on 7-1-2011 by pplrnuts because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by dr_strangecraft
Originally posted by pplrnuts
I say, get rid of ALL of the ridiculous religious nonsense out there everywhere.
You can have all the "freedom of religion" that you want, just keep the NONSENSE to YOURSELVES!!! Theres your freedom of religion. I, and MANY others, ALSO want freedom of religion... freedom [color=skyblue]FROM HEARING OR SEEING any of the ridiculous religion's symbols and nonsense.
Keep it to yourselves. Religion and its symbols are nothing but problems anyways. Do away with all of it.edit on 7-1-2011 by pplrnuts because: (no reason given)
So, you're just one more person telling OTHER people how they should behave, and what they shouldn't do....
Like some kind of fanatic or something...