The Food Crisis Has Hit The Mainstream Media...

Well, I am pretty sure most of us here have heard about the coming food shortage.

I had always kept an open mind about the food supplies for the Wetern World but when it hits the BBC I am pretty sure we are in trouble. Don't get me wrong, we will probably always have it better than a lot of countries but when we (the western world) are being threatened with food shortages then we know something is up...

BBC Article

hmm, think all the animals and honeybees might be good at making food. we should go find some. maybe if we try to protect animals other than the endangered species, they wouldnt have mass-die-offs. but, money is more important ti all the people that dont realize the ecosystem has very very very sensative ripple effects. are you seeing some about now?

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When the food runs out because crops will fail this summer because of bad weather, and when the dollar crashes thus causing the oil to stop flowing which causes society to stop producing, be very very afraid of the meat eaters among your species, humans. Vegans and vegetarians beware, unite to protect yourselves from the flesh and blood thirsty zombie vampire humans. And fat people, you may want to start running and hiding right now while you still have a chance (lol, TEACH). And you socialist/commies out there, har, good luck ya leeches, ya'll are going to need it, ah ha ha ha. Oh man, I can't wait for all the chaos and fun to begin .. and it couldn't have happened to a more karmically bankrupt and deserving species than you planet trashing fiat cheating blood thirsty humans, ha. I can smell the stench already.

(hey, wouldn't the simple solution to be to stock up on food now and turn this into a non-issue, I have and I should be okay for a couple of years, longer if I invite some of my neighbors for dinner, lol)

I think first prices will just soar so much there will be riot's and unrest.

Originally posted by SmellMyHoop
I think first prices will just soar so much there will be riot's and unrest.

I agree with this, and worse yet, if either the dollar or the euro crashes, watch out!

People are already making way less money than they have in decades here in the united states, now add higher gas and food prices to the mix. civil unrest is literally just around the corner.

If you want to see the truth about what is coming, then go to National Inflation Association. In order to understand how all everything ties together, you must do some research for yourself. Don't just take others words for it. I have verified the information from NIA and they have been on spot 95% of the time. We are quickly approaching some very rough times. It will only take one big event to send the economy over the edge. I know doctors that have been preparing for the upcoming collapse by buying dried & freeze dried food. I have been doing the same myself. Educate yourselves and prepare.

Why has this thread not taken off?
Once again ATS never ceases to amaze me with the threads that go viral vs. the threads that die out.
5 billion bird death threads and 5 billion-twenty-seven James Laughner threads, when one or two would suffice.

But a legitimate food shortage thread that affects us all & our daily way of life fizzles out like a greasy fart.

Well, not that I expect it to matter much but here's a ......

***THREAD BUMP***

from a stupid girl, with a side of "Star & Flag"

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Just because people are ATS doesn't mean they are any smarter. We should be paying attention to the fact that Russia stopped importing wheat and its crop yeild was down, as was ours.

We cannot support our current levels of population without massive influxes of petro-chemicals from fertilization to packaging, so as the ancillary costs rise, so does the cost of food.

The poorest countries should be our early warning sign for things amiss. Prolonged shortages there means coming shortages in industrialized countries.

- mike

Originally posted by Wide-Eyes
Well, I am pretty sure most of us here have heard about the coming food shortage.

Don't get me wrong, we will probably always have it better than a lot of countries but when we (the western world) are being threatened with food shortages then we know something is up...

BBC Article

Actually, it will be quite the opposite. Because poor countrires have always had the threat of food shortages hanging over them they are always ready to adapt. Not that a massive food shortage would be pretty in those areas, but they know how to survive on fewer calories. In the western world, we are COMPLETELY dependent on a food distribution system that keeps major cities barely stocked with 3-4 days of food. And much of that food is perishable.

However, because western countries are the seats of global power, we will be fed first to keep rioting at bay.

All one has to do is read. Look at pre-revolutionary France and you will see that Paris and other cities were stocked while the countryside starved. Since we are on a global scale now, poor countries are the countryside, and industrialized countries are the cities. The idea was that you can quell a countryside riot easier than a citywide riot. Nothing has changed except scale.

Read George Rude's The Crowd in History: A Study of Popular Disturbances in France And England, 1730-1848

- mike

Well my friends, here was my advice on the situation. It isn't labor intensive, and it won't hurt just in case.

Tree of Life

With Love,

Your Brother

I have heard of food shortages for some time now, and according to them, it should have happened by now. Perhaps it will happen and perhaps it won't. I guess time will tell either way.

I think this has less to do with a true "shortage", than with hyperinflation, big business interests (Monsanto), and I fear for all of us in the next couple of years if this continues.
This will open the door for Monsanto to leap in, crying that we need the genetically altered seed to "save" the world from "hunger".
This is all being very skillfully masterminded, I believe.

Originally posted by thegoodearth
I think this has less to do with a true "shortage", than with hyperinflation, big business interests (Monsanto), and I fear for all of us in the next couple of years if this continues.
This will open the door for Monsanto to leap in, crying that we need the genetically altered seed to "save" the world from "hunger".
This is all being very skillfully masterminded, I believe.

Again, I have to recommend Rude's book. Food was available but overpriced in France and England during the timeframe covered. The riots lead to riot leaders taking over bakeries in and some cases selling the bread at what they thought was a reasonable price.

This also happened in Haiti a few years ago when the big food crisis hit there. There were warehouses stocked but the cost was too high so the food sat and rotted.

- mike

Boy, that article is just chock full of good news. From reading the article it sure seems like we are on the edge of a serious food shortage. All it would take is another major disaster or oil going over $100 a barrel, and oil hitting $100 a barrel seems like a real possibility in the near future.

Here's a graph for thought from the US Fed. At what point do you think this will lead to some loud group complaints on the streets?

Blue line is Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers: Food (CPIUFDNS), Monthly, Not Seasonally Adjusted, 1970-11-01 to 2010-11-01 .

Red line is for Civilian Employment-Population Ratio (EMRATIO), Monthly, Seasonally Adjusted, 1970-01-01 to 2010-12-01

research.stlouisfed.org...
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To the OPs' point:

www.ft.com...

World moves closer to food price shock

By Gregory Meyer in New York and Javier Blas and Jack Farchy in London
Published: January 12 2011 20:26 | Last updated: January 12 2011 20:26

The world has moved a step closer to a food price shock after the US government surprised traders by cutting stock forecasts for key crops, sending corn and soyabean prices to their highest level in 30 months.

The price jump comes after the UN’s Food and Agriculture Organisation warned last week that the world could see repetition of the 2008 food crisis if prices rose further. The trend is becoming a major concern in developing countries.
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Traders are particularly concerned about the cost of vegetable oil, key for developing countries such as China where an emerging middle class is buying more frying oil. The US Department of Agriculture said the ratio of global stocks-to-demand would fall later this year to “levels unseen since the mid-1970s, reflecting an accelerated pace of vegetable oil” consumption for food and fuel.

In Chicago, the price of soyabeans rose as much as 5.2 per cent to $14.20½ a bushel, the highest since late 2008. The USDA said that domestic stocks-to-demand would drop to the lowest point in nearly half a century.

Corn prices jumped 5 per cent to $6.37 a bushel, the highest level since July 2008.

The USDA said that by August the ratio of US corn stocks-to-demand would fall to a surprisingly thin 5.5 per cent, the smallest cushion in 15 years.
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i think the Tree of Life plan is excellent and wish you the best with it. a friend and i are looking forward to this come springtime.

reply to post by Wide-Eyes


just food for thought
There are plenty sites regarding food waste facts/statistics, i've chosen this one, because these quotes:

The UK, US and Europe have nearly twice as much food as is required by the nutritional needs of their populations. Up to half the entire food supply is wasted between the farm and the fork. If crops wastefully fed to livestock are included, European countries have more than three times more food than they need, while the US has around four times more food than is needed, and up to three-quarters of the nutritional value is lost before it reaches people’s mouths.

All the world’s nearly one billion hungry people could be lifted out of malnourishment on less than a quarter of the food that is wasted in the US, UK and Europe.

The irrigation water used globally to grow food that is wasted would be enough for the domestic needs (at 200 litres per person per day) of 9 billion people - the number expected on the planet by 2050.

sum it up, fairly accurately.

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While numerous studies show, that food aid or exporting agricultural surplus to developing countries does not solve the problem, even maintain poverty, one thing is clear: there is enough food.

It may seem we do not have much influence in regard to global food politics, but only small modifications in our every day lives can have a huge impact. It's up to us.

Looks like it time to go on a diet America! Not like we don't need to lose some weight anyways.

Originally posted by stupid girl
Why has this thread not taken off?
Once again ATS never ceases to amaze me with the threads that go viral vs. the threads that die out.
5 billion bird death threads and 5 billion-twenty-seven James Laughner threads, when one or two would suffice.

But a legitimate food shortage thread that affects us all & our daily way of life fizzles out like a greasy fart.

Why choose when you can have two dooms for the price of one? Food doom AND fish-death doom, for example:

Residents gather and eat dead fish from mass dieoff