Birds and fish dying. Notice anything else?

Hello,
Their have been numerous post about the birds and fish dying all over the place. I can't think of anything that ties it together. In the big scheme of things, the amount of death is a very small percentage compared to the whole bird/fish population.
It is very obvious when birds and fish die off as they are animals that travel in large groups. If something is effecting them in a small area you get a lot of deaths as opposed to other animals.
My question is has anyone notice anything out of the ordinary with other animal. Be it a lot more road kill or just animals acting strange. I ask because I have 4 cats. 2 are older. Over the last couple of days the older ones have been running around and chasing, things acting wierd. They generally sit and do nothing. I noticed because my wife kept asking "whats up with the cats?". I know its nothing but was wondering if anyone else noticed anything unusual.

I want to add the following its from Wikipedia

1. Use your experience: Consider the problem and try to make sense of it. Look for previous explanations. If this is a new problem to you, then move to step 2.
2. Form a conjecture: When nothing else is yet known, try to state an explanation, to someone else, or to your notebook.
3. Deduce a prediction from that explanation: If you assume 2 is true, what consequences follow?
4. Test: Look for the opposite of each consequence in order to disprove 2. It is a logical error to seek 3 directly as proof of 2. This error is called affirming the consequent.[13]

We can all just spout out that it is this or that but to get to the answers we should follow a guide. Right now we should use this thread to find related material. We can can use that to narrow down our conclusion or draw new explanations. We may find that it is nothing or we may find out something. Post whatever comes to your mind regarding this no matter how off the wall it is.

reply to post by jlafleur02


It's because of all the fireworks from New Year's Eve. That goes for the birds, too. They are/were in panic, flew until they got tired and then fell down and died, and/or had physical trauma.

This is why. I was going to post a topic, but thought that no one would listen anyway. We humans are the reason they die and nothing else.

German source? www.tagesschau.de...

Originally posted by Kemal
reply to post by jlafleur02

 

It's because of all the fireworks from New Year's Eve. That goes for the birds, too. They are/were in panic, flew until they got tired and then fell down and died, and/or had physical trauma.

This is why. I was going to post a topic, but thought that no one would listen anyway. We humans are the reason they die and nothing else.

German source? www.tagesschau.de...

edit on 04/06/2010 by Kemal because: (no reason given)

That's just a theory...just like any other theory put forward on this web site...unless you can prove it?

All the birds and fish that are dying cant have all been killed by fire works...that's not possible, so it's a bad theory, I have heard much better

reply to post by Kemal

We humans are the reason they die and nothing else.

I have to ask the question.
Do you believe that if we humans were not around, no animals would die? The place would get mighty crowded if that were actually the case.

Predatory carnivores would tend to starve to death if no other animals could be killed by them to eat. Oh, they couldn't die if we weren't around, I forgot.

reply to post by Kemal


We have fireworks every year. Why this year are the birds dropping off and in large groups? You can say its because of the cold weather in some areas but then why is the weather like that as opposed to other years? That explaination is to easy. It requires no proof as you can't prove or disprove if that was the cause.

reply to post by jlafleur02


Now that you ask....

I have noticed the birds in my garden are whistling like it's spring time. It's the middle of winter here!! Never caught them doing that around this time of year.
My cat died last week from mysterious causes. As in, it wasn't run over or anything, no injuries, just laying on his side in the garden, dead. (He was 10 years old)
My dog stopped wagging it's tail for about a week now. Which is strange for a dog that chronically wags it's tail for no reason at all. And he keeps looking at me like I'm in pain, which I'm not!!

Other than that nothing else out of the ordinary really....

PS: Oh and my other cat won't come into the house anymore. It's freezing cold here but he insists on being outside. He'll come in for food for only a few minutes and starts crying like a baby to open the door when he is finished.....

Peace

Not sure, if it's related, but I found a very strange cat video the other day. It looks like "rods" are invading the cat:

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by jlafleur02


Now that you mention it, I can think of a weird event that happened on new years eve during the day. I was getting a bite to eat at the sushi restaurant and then I heard a big bang. Everyone looked towards where the noise came from expecting to see a car wreck or something. One of the waitresses went and looked and the front door was smashed and a deer was running out of the parking lot into traffic. I live in a city and there are no parks or forest land near where I was at so it was very out of character to see a deer running around smashing glass doors.

It could be that it was only a frightened deer running scared, but your thread definitely reminded me of this incident.

reply to post by Kemal


If some of you Americans think it was fireworks and weather patterns that killed your birds (and birds of other countries), you all have rocks in your head. Either many of you are in denial or you suspect whats really going on but too damn sheepish to do anything about it, that's why your Govt know they can and are getting away with it.

It was NOT fireworks and it was NOT the weather! Get it through your thick skulls.

Now what are YOU going to do about it?

People are animals too. I suppose we could also ask are any of you feeling a bit odd too? I don't know if its because there has been so much hype about 2012 leading us to expect the unexpected, but there sure has been a lot of anecdotal evidence of odd stuff happening nearly everywhere.

hmmmm...

I don't know if anyone else has noticed this, but....

I have noticed a couple times this past fall where the birds in my neighborhood would just go nuts and become so loud you could barely hear anything else. It always seemed to happen about 4 to 5pm est.

It would last for roughly five to ten minutes then dead silence and everything was back to normal.

Kind of sounded like a Hitchcock movie.


I was going to make a post about it, but didn't think it would be worth it.

reply to post by bluemirage5



I'm an American and somehow, even with my thick skull and rocks in my head, I still believe the government is 100% responsible for this craziness. But maybe I'm just weird.

reply to post by thewholepicture


I remember a similar episode, about a month ago. There was a flock of birds over my neighbors property (I live in the boonies) and they were making some of the craziest noises I've ever heard from birds in my life. And they were LOUD.

My 2 staffy crosses are acting about as normal as 2 staffy crosses can

(ie- freaking mentlar)

I've no idea what this means, but I did warn them last night not to do anything silly like dropping dead out of the sky......

Not really much response. I guess its nothing. Just a few isolated incedences.

reply to post by HedyLamarr



what the heck....

Originally posted by kyeleigh
reply to post by HedyLamarr

 

what the heck....

i have the same response

Of course the media will say we are nuts if they see this video.

No nothing dying,but,i just mention the other day that i find it kind of strange i have not seen any birds in the past two days when normally,they are waking me up chirping i went outside yesterday and looked and no birds were fling or anything

I didn't know that canaries were formally used in mines to detect methane gas.If there is anything in the air, we see it with the birds first. There was an incident too in Northern Italy.

www.geapress.org...

reply to post by Kemal


"and or had physical trauma" say wwhhhaatt??