1000+ birds dropped dead from the sky.

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There is a problem with this theory, hemorrhaging in this fashion would cause internal bleeding and internal damage but would not cause blunt impact trauma with open wounds and tearing like we see in these birds.

Originally posted by Gradius Maximus
Heres an article from today that has a vet saying these birds died from MULTIPLE blunt force traumas to their vital organs.
Arkansas News

Could this reinforce the hail theory? or could this enforce the idea of EM waves in the atmosphere crushing the birds in mid flight somehow

I would imagine that would have happened when they hit the ground

Originally posted by kevinunknown
Emmmm guys.......

Did no one else watch Flash Forward, lots of birds fall out of the sky in that.

Right, and look what happened.

The show was cancelled.

Seriously, this does sound like a fortean event. But if things like this have been happening for as long as anyone can remember, perhaps its some sort of natural phenomenon....like some a-hole kid with a fully auto bb gun

Multiple blunt force tramas to their vital organs?? I find this more troubling than anything released yet. Have you all looked at the birds? Do you see any exterior injuries? What in the world can cause internal injuries but not the external ones to go with them? I understand anatomy and I know that you can have internal injuries without a lot showing up externally but for this many birds to be taken out there should at least be SEVERAL with broken wings etc. Something doesn't add up.

Wait a minute? Just how many birds dropped out of the sky? The amount is incrementing by 1000 every 12 hours...

Did ALL black birds die in Arkanssas?

What are they not saying? The blackout has surely hit there now.

What i want to know is what ELSE died there that they are keeping a lid on...

Oh and i'm not even talking about the 100,000+ fish that died 1 day ago...

Oh and is this the same state that's had a rash of earthquakes recently?

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It would not necessarily cause internal bleeding. It could cause bruising which would appear to someone performing an autopsy as blunt trauma.

The impact damage you are seeing is the damage the birds sustain from falling XXXX feet to the ground.

That could account for lacerations et al.

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Ok, these birds collided with something, something large, big enough to kill that many birds. And if birds see something flying right into their path, they are going to instinctively move out of the way so as not to die. But these birds didn't so this means they did not see the object so they collided with it. So what is flying in the altitude these birds were on and is invisible so the birds couldn't see it and makes very little noise??

A low flying ufo.

Sounds like RADIATION to me.
These birds were irradiated by something, possibly an electromagnetic field, man-made or natural. Both causes are plausible. Did they check to see if the birds have any radiation illness?
depending on what they were exposed to, radiation can cause internal bleeding, mental deterioration, brain damage, tumors and all sorts of physical traumas.

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I considered this. However as much as I would like to see more UFO phenomena and it's effects, I really think we have to exclude all terrestrial explanations before we start researching extra terrestrial explanations.

From the latest MSNBC report:

BEEBE, Ark. — Preliminary autopsies on 17 of the up to 5,000 blackbirds that fell on this town indicate they died of blunt trauma to their organs, the state's top veterinarian told NBC News on Monday.
Their stomachs were empty, which rules out poison, Dr. George Badley said, and they died in midair, not on impact with the ground.
That evidence, and the fact that the red-winged blackbirds fly in close flocks, suggests they suffered some massive midair collision, he added. That lends weight to theories that they were startled by something.
Earlier Monday, the estimated number of dead birds was raised to between 4,000 and 5,000, up sharply from the initial estimate of 1,000.

They also sent a reporter out there who did a brief news clip with a homeowner who lives in the area. The funny part is that he says something to the effect of

"they keep telling us there's nothing to worry about, but they've got EPA, Game and Fish, State Police, etc...and they keep flying that helicopter overhead for the past 3 days... Doesn't give us any confidence if "there's nothing to worry about!"

Well, the man has a point....

Originally posted by covert1
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This would be plausible if there were structures high enough for birds to impact into, high in the air but I live in Missouri near the Arkansas border and there are no high structures high enough for a bird impact caused from an earthquake.

If the birds navigation/radar system whatever you want to call it was scrambled then maybe they all thought they were flying straight and level when they weren't. It could be similar to how aircraft can crash when their instruments have problems.

It sounds to me and this is just me speculating but on further research the only factory accident was a man being sucked into a vacum in OK, and no train derailments. But according to what I have read it seems human cause was to blame. I know from witnessing such things myself but large blasts, air horns, and other devices are commonly used around residential and city sites to deter roosting of such birds, like grackles and blackbirds. So far the leading cause is fright according to this article. news.yahoo.com...

Still anxious to read more about the causes though.

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Dont know about any market for smuggled red wing black birds in the US. These birds are very common and found throughout the states so no need really to smuggle them.

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What indications do you have that Radiation caused this event in the birds? You seem confidant this is the case, which is great. I am hoping that your confidence means that you understand the effects of radiation and that you could tell us all how it explains these events.

As I understand it, radiation would not cause internal or external damage so soon. Radiation is insidious and works on a sub cellular level, requiring great doses or long periods of exposure to kill. But I could be wrong.

havent read the whole thread but has anyone mentioned the fish yet?

Situation Update No. 1 On 03.01.2011 at 03:50 GMT+2 An estimated 100,000 fish have died in the northwest of Arkansas, the same state where up to 5000 dead birds recently fell from the sky. The Arkansas Game and Fish Commission said it suspected disease was to blame for the death of the drum fish, which floated in the water and lined the banks of a 30-kilometre stretch of the Arkansas River near Ozark, about 200km northwest of Little Rock, CNN reported on Sunday. Ozark is about 200km west of the town of Beebe, where game wardens were trying to find out why up to 5000 blackbirds fell from the sky just before midnight on New Year's Eve, CNN said. Keith Stephens from the game and fish commission said fish kills occurred every year but the size of the latest one was unusual, and suggested some sort of disease was to blame. "The fish kill only affected one species of fish," he told CNN. "If it was from a pollutant, it would have affected all of the fish, not just drum fish." A tugboat operator discovered the dead fish on Friday night, and fisheries officials collected some of the dying animals to conduct tests.

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I don't think hemorrhaging and bruising would cause lacerations and deep internal cuts these birds were inflicted with. The videos show these birds crushed and mutilated from impact trauma.

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There were a lot of storms over the midwest this past weekend. Hail and lightning were quite possible.

I wanted to make a quick comment about the firework idea... Just out of curriosity do you celebrate the new year at 11:30 in Arkansas? I didn't think so... That is when the birds started falling, Fireworks did not start until midnight so that rules that one out real quick. Sounds like a swamp gas explanation to me. I think that was the first disinformation. TPTB didn't realize that people saw the birds fall that soon. So then they attempted hail, lightning, etc. All of which have been proven impossible in this thread. I have worked in media and the government and there is one thing that I have noticed. If something was unknown then they say they are unsure what caused it and usually let it die out on its own.

HOWEVER, when something is known, there is a cover-up and all kinds of theories sprout up real quick. You guys have seen the news, if it really is something unknown then they don't immediately come out with off the wall theories. They say they are unsure what caused it. However with the quick "explanations" sprouting up on all of the major news organizations that usually leads to some kind of cover-up. Now we just need to figure out what it is.

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On the contrary, if you exclude a ufo as a possibility you also exclude all possibilities and also the truth. If you have a good explanation except for not believing in ufo phenomenon to how these birds and fish died I would really love to hear.

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Good comment and also with fireworks as with a lightening strike you would have evidence of burning or charring which was not the case.