Solar Activity Watch 2011

reply to post by bluemooone2

That CME is not really Earth directed.
When it occurred the region where it originated (1165) was at the very "edge" of the Sun. But, since it was a broad outburst the fringes of it may reach us.

Originally posted by Phage
Seems to be
an Itty bitty CME.
[atsimg]http://files.abovetopsecret.com/images/member/67b6ab4d6938.gif[/atsimg]
A little hard to tell from the beacon mode images though.

edit on 3/9/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

That Itty bitty CME is probably about the size of the Earth.
Were you hoping for a larger one?

reply to post by Mr. D

Hoping for a larger one? Not really.
But I was expecting to see a larger one since it was associated with an X class flare.

"The size of the Earth" doesn't mean a lot when you are talking about processes on the Sun.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Mr. D

 

Hoping for a larger one? Not really.
But I was expecting to see a larger one since it was associated with an X class flare.

"The size of the Earth" doesn't mean a lot when you are talking about processes on the Sun.

edit on 3/9/2011 by Phage because: (no reason given)

You are correct about the size of the Earth in respect to the sun however
I'd hate to see what that sized CME could do to our lives on this planet if
it were to be a bullseye with the current weakend state of the magnetosphere.
(not to mention satellite communications et al,.).

reply to post by Mr. D

We were hit by a larger CME a few weeks ago.

While the Earth's magnetic field is about 10% weaker than it was 200 years ago it is still more than suffcient.

Actually, if the magnetosphere were gone entirely, a CME wouldn't have much effect at all other than to possibly create a glow in the ionosphere. The trouble is, it would only occur on the day side of the Earth so it wouldn't be visible. It's the magnetosphere that traps the particles and concentrates them at the poles, producing the aurora. It's the magnetosphere reacting to the CME that produces geomagnetic storms.

It is really the atmosphere which protects us from solar radiation and energetic particles, not the magnetosphere.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Mr. D

 

We were hit by a larger CME a few weeks ago.

While the Earth's magnetic field is about 10% weaker than it was 200 years ago it is still more than suffcient.

Actually, if the magnetosphere were gone entirely, a CME wouldn't have much effect at all other than to possibly create a glow in the ionosphere. The trouble is, it would only occur on the day side of the Earth so it wouldn't be visible. It's the magnetosphere that traps the particles and concentrates them at the poles, producing the aurora. It's the magnetosphere reacting to the CME that produces geomagnetic storms.

It is really the atmosphere which protects us from solar radiation and energetic particles, not the magnetosphere.

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I thought that one was just a glancing hit? The real danger is if the ozone
get's ripped away by a direct hit not to mention the danger of a pole reversal.

reply to post by Mr. D

No. It hit us dead on. There just wasn't much to it.
It would take a very, very powerful CME to "rip" away the ozone layer (if there were no magnetosphere).
A CME cannot cause a pole reversal.

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by Mr. D

 

No. It hit us dead on. There just wasn't much to it.
It would take a very, very powerful CME to "rip" away the ozone layer (if there were no magnetosphere).
A CME cannot cause a pole reversal.

That is were I tend differ in my opinion (pole reversal) especially when the magnetosphere
is weakening. The Earth is basically a rather large di-pole magnet. Do you know how
Iron get's magnetized?

X Class 1.5
According to solaris this will hit us head on.
Second line...

reply to post by Mr. D

In the case of the Earth the magnetic field is most likely produced by the movement of material in the outer core.

reply to post by Phage


Outter core, inner core, molten core it is basically still a magnet.
Here is some info on magnetism. Energy applied to a ferromagnetic
metal can magnetize, de-magnetize and or change
the magnetic field of said object depending on how it is done.
What is your opinion on the Electric Universe Theory if you don't
mind me asking?

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by Mr. D

The inner core and the outer core are at temperatures above the curie point (is that in the wiki article). They cannot be magnetized like a bar magnet.

I don't hold to the electric universe theory but if you do you will agree that the Earth's magnetic field is not like a bar magnet. If you hold with the electric universe theory the only thing that could cause a reversal of Earth's magnetic field is if the (claimed) electric current from the Sun reversed.

reply to post by Phage


There is more than one way to scratch an itch . Here is an educational
video I saw on youtube If you don't hold to the Electric Universe theory.
I believe there is much more to be learned in that realm where science
fears to tread for some reason. There are currents flowing through the
Earth that can and are affected by the sun which I believe influence our
magnetic field. Science or someone just doesn't want everyone to know
about it for some reason. Either way, I think we will all find out one way or another
sooner or later

www.youtube.com...

reply to post by Mr. D

There's an ongoing discussion of EU. That would be a better place.
www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Phage


I agree, science is fascinating isn't it? It would also explain the current die off
of birds, sea life some animals, earthquakes and volcanic eruptions going on
around the world don't you think? All great topics here on ATS.

x1.5 seems like pointed right at us, so can we expect a giant onslaught of solar activity?

With todays X1.5 I would expect another CME.
Interesting info and theories everyone!

reply to post by crazydaisy

There was a CME associated with the flare. It was very minor. See above.

Has anyone checked the magnetosphere before during and after the Japan quake?
Looks kinda funny to me,and some sort of spike just before it happened.

reply to post by kdog1982


I did check it a few times I am sure, however, I was not too focused on it. Also, I only found out about the earthquake about 6 hours after the fact where I checked the NICT page only to see if it was still up as it is a japanese website, I was curious only for that. During CME related events the magnetosphere models are rather quiet half the time so its not where I turn my focus as a rule, except only periodically...however I did check it earlier for the first time today and only then did it hit me to check at the time of the earthquake but the data only goes back so far and it was not listed. Not too much looks out of ordinary as far as I can tell.