UFO Crash In Russia

Originally posted by Rebel21
I don't think its real. The one russian soldier who is guarding the craft seems to be using a German made HKmp5. The russians use Uzi,AKS74U,scorpion but not the mp5.The russians also seem to be too free for photography. This makes me think if Disk UFO's crash so much and not brake in half,leads me to think that its one piece???

I think you need to get your eyes checked, the soldier is clearly holding an AK-47. Russians seem to be free for photography? It's not like this is a news crew filming this for television.

I haven't watched the Roger Moore documentary because it will probably fill my mind with some garbage explanation. From the looks of the video, it appears real in my opinion. What the disc object is, is up for debate though. There's a few aerial disc designs that are roughly that size and are apparently used as drones (by militaries, NOT aliens ).

This has been brought up before. The same questions come into play. How is it so perfectly lodged in the ground? IF indeed that is a real UFO that crashed why is none of the earth damaged around the crash site? Likely a hoax.

reply to post by d00d557


hoax for what purpose? this happened in 1969 but wasnt brought up until almost 20 years later

Ok... For a UFO crash i think they would send a bit more then a few guys and a couple of jeeps.

If this is real they dont seem to shocked.

reply to post by snoochieboochies

One thing i will say is that UFO is tiny, it must be piloted by minature martians

A robotic probe doesn't have to be large enough to accommodate a human being.

Even if it wasn't a machine intelligence, there's no rules that require any ET species to be approximately the same size as an adult human being.

Considering the vast range of sizes of stars, and planets and the variations in both gravity and rotation periods of them, it's a pretty safe bet that ET species would come in various shapes and sizes, ranging from the very large, perhaps extremely large to the very, very small...relative to humans anyway.

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
Ok... For a UFO crash i think they would send a bit more then a few guys and a couple of jeeps.

If this is real they dont seem to shocked.

They sent several trucks full of armed soldiers...not a few Jeeps.

These are professional soldiers, probably an elite, trusted section who may either have regularly seen this kind of thing before (a recovery unit for example) or would probably not stand around in a disorganised rabble gawking.

I doubt when this thing was initially discovered, they just decided to send ordinary troops from the nearest base, unless of course the nearest base, happened to be where they built and tested these craft?

These craft may be human made, based on recovered tech, and not an actual ET craft.

We can't make assumptions based on our level of technology. Any space faring vehicle with a decent structural integrity field may not break up into debris, but would instead channel all that force into embedding itself into the ground. The energy has to go somewhere, and if it's prevented from being diffused into shattering the craft, it could well force the craft into the ground whole.

That's all conjecture, obviously, but I think that assuming it's fake because it doesn't have the same properties as our tech is a mistake.

I saw 2 jeeps, 1 truck (not even big enough to recover said object) and a few guys none of whom looked "elite"

Originally posted by ShogunAssassins
I saw 2 jeeps, 1 truck (not even big enough to recover said object) and a few guys none of whom looked "elite"

edit on 4-1-2011 by ShogunAssassins because: (no reason given)

In the first clip, we see two 'Jeep' type vehicles, and one troop truck.

At 6.18, the narrator says *yet more* troops arrive...i counted an extra 9 troops, possibly 10. These would probably have to be in another truck, since 9 or 10 troops and weapons will not fit into a Jeep.

A couple of Jeeps has now turned into at least two Jeeps, and Two troop trucks, which was my point in reply to you.

My thinking they were *probably* elite troops, is based on reports obtained during disclosure conferences (and common sense), that the US and other nations, have specialised 'elite' units that routinely handle occurrences like this...the common sense part is reasoning that the USSR would probably have a similar specialist unit too.

I doubt the object would be recovered using the trucks...they're troop transports, not heavy goods vehicles. I saw no heavy lifting gear either, which means either this was a preliminary inspection, or a flatbed with crane or other lifting apparatus was on it's way to join the troops and recover the object.

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All the crash reports I've read use USAF service persons (ok, men) from the nearest base. Even A-12 or SR-71. They don't have a squad of men sitting around waiting for a crash to happen.

For the Ken Collins Wendover crash, the USAF dressed up like hunters. Nothing screams "hey look kids, cool stuff" like a bunch of guys in uniform.

Usually there would be men combing the grounds for pieces of the plane, but this "crash" landed in one piece. Nice of it to crash just at the edge of the forrest. It is a lot of work finding plane parts amongst the trees. These guys didn't een have to doze a road.

My guess is US or Nazi air/space craft. Intentionally crashed to let the Russians know whos in charge.

"A couple of Jeeps has now turned into at least two Jeeps, and Two troop trucks, which was my point in reply to you. "

A couple is two.. So we still have 2 jeeps like i said at first.. The only extra thing you have is maybe 1 truck no one saw.

You sure are speculating a lot from what we actually see.. What we do see here is a video with bad production value and worse acting.

The only thing these people where prepared to do is stand around and film. Seriously you think they are going to run to a UFO crash with that many camera men and infantery and bring nothing to salvage the object.. Not even a box or a sack for the parts on the ground?? You honestly think a Dr doing an autopsy of an alien being wouldnt call for tools by name when he needed them? You really think he would say "give me tools" lol

Sorry, not only is this video a bad hoax its a bad, cheap russian made hoax.

reply to post by gariac


I personally believe that there are "A LOT" of true to blue authentic videos/pictures and testimonies that are being over clouded by the skeptical or just plain non-believer's of these sighting's and recorded history facts. If this video is real, then it wouldn't even be accepted by MSM or the sciences that embark on such occurrences too being factual. We have nothing more than sheer argument of there being factual proof's, here or in Russia, all we can do with it is dissect and process from what people initially think of the event being discussed.
Now "If we could get an Actual witness when the event occurred to come on here to the ATS forums and rebut?" That there would be considered acceptable concurrence, but would be shot down as "Hoaxer" or "Propagandists" in a N.Y. Minute.
This will always be argued for it's authenticity, well, at least until they come up with their own "Reality Series" hopefully blocking out "Real housewives" or something like that!!! LOL

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Siberia at the time would have had a number of hellicopters, heavy track vehicles, massisve trucks and equiptment from the logging going at the time.. Not to mention this is cold war and the vietnam war era..

thanks for bringing this one up again surf. the russian roswell has always been one of the most fascinating. So much in the video(s) is accurate for the time. I still cannot get my head around the disk being so perfectly set in the ground with what seems to be a lack of surrounding impact debris. would the craft not displace the dirt in a more violent fashion? like a big pile of dirt in front of the disk?

reply to post by howmuch4another

i have been told this part of the disk and that another part was found somehwere else.
I just find this one particularly interesting because information was release but not for almost 20 years and there is alot more that hasnt been released about this incident

if i were going to creat a hoax for propaganda or disinformation, why wait 20 years?
and they waited until some one requested it. wouldnt you release it around the same time period>?
it was only after the soviet union collapsed when this stuff started appearing.

also you guys have to remember how remote this location was. its not like they have AAA hanging around. it would probably be a while to get a truck to move something like this. maybe that truck came and is observed on different video footage that hasnt been released.

I myself do not believe in any of those UFO crash events..unless they crashed in front of me lol. No offence.

reply to post by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi


First of all, none of these soldiers here are "elite". I've been around my fair share of people in the Russian military and can tell you those guys are the average soldier in the Russian army from their uniforms.

Secondly, there is no way that the Russian Army would allow the taping of something like this. They are very against photography, unless in a parade or ceremony, nonetheless a videotaping of a supposed UFO discovery.

My thoughts....

reply to post by surfnow2


I don't think it is a hoax. Rather, I think we don't know what we are looking at. In fact, I think most UFOs photos are not hoaxes, but rather test aircraft or unexplained phenomena. Hoaxers want money and/or attention. I don't think these Russians wanted either.

Personally, I like when there is some evidence to analyze. It's that endless repetition of internet stories that drives me bonkers. Dulce, the secret base under the Denver Airport, blah blah blah without any physical evidence to back it up.

If it embedded itself at the angle shown, the trees behind it would have been sliced or at least a path plowed through them. Unless it was an old crash and the trees grew up around it. I still have not decided for myself it I believe it to be fake or real. It sure is interesting though. Da Komrad?