Petrol/Diesel likely to be £7.00 a gallon.

Currently the price is around £1.30 a litre but in the next couple of days we have the VAT increase, then more duty to be added in the next few months. On top of this Oil prices are still rising and unlikely to fall and many economists reckon the UK will be paying around £1.54 a litre for petrol, and £1.60 for diesel.

I am just wondering if anyone thinks their could be a breaking point with the UK hauliers and public? Obviously rises effect transport and have an effect upon about everything we buy. This on top of inflation which is currently well above the Governments target rate of 2%.

Could this be the straw that breaks the camels back in the UK and cause rioting and a year of discontent?

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Well looks like were paying for the Bp oil spill someone has to pay This is what happens when your got 2 A holes running the country. Riping everyone off were no money as it is. If only we could do without petrol Diesel for a couple of months Just to sicken the gready B*******..

Cheers mate.

I hope so ,it's all over priced a barrel of oil is $75,

Won't be long before you see some bankers, politician's head on sticks in Parliament Square

V for Vendetta

2011 will be the defining year where Joe Public will say enough is enough! you work for us....

If it keeps going up its definatly going to become an unaffordable commodity for many people. It's knock on effect will push the prices up for public transport and also the cost of goods and services that rely on transporting goods around the country so in the long term the price rises will affect not just motorists but everyone

the increase in fuel prices has the domino effect on all food staples. bread will increase in price and so will all other needs. the hauliers are sufferiing enough and we all know how much of the price of fuel is tax. last time i heard it was around 70%.
it will get pretty interesting come february when christmas bills have to be settled on cards, bank of england wanting to increase base rates asap but hindered by the cameroons and the public cuts come into play.
batten down the hatches and think twice before attempting to purchase a bigger tv!
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Well my neck of the woods they have started to ramp up prices in tourist season, and yet we don't really see high volumes of tourists.. So what we are seeing is amazing levels of greed from the corporate elite, and it will bite them in the rear this year.

Going to be an interesting year ahead..

The real question is why does our Government take so much tax from the price of fuel in the UK?

The Price of Fuel

They need the billions of £s in taxes to pay for the mis-management of the banks and for all the lazy scum who expect to live off the state, rather than make a contribution to society.

Rather than riot against the Government, target the banks directly and the lazy scum. If you have energy to fight, pick a decent target!

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i agree it is indeed going to be an interesting year. i wonder what the cut back list will start with. broadband? sky? mobile package? get rid of the puppy? i know, we are gonna start shopping at aldi instead of marks's.
one less pie a week and restrict ourselves to one takeaway per month should do it.
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Does anyone remember the mass protests in 2005 and 2007 by lorry drivers when it broke 99p a litre for the first time hard to believe that it was so recent and the price has continued to rise so much since then.

Maybe £1.50 will be a new milestone that gets people to protest and hopefully not just the lorry drivers this time.

Originally posted by fakedirt
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i know, we are gonna start shopping at aldi instead of marks's.

You can afford to shop at Marks? Wow you must be one of the elite that we keep hearing about!

reply to post by Freedom ERP

how about the pension black hole all governments have ignored all these years. an unsustainable policy with people retiring after 25years service?
don't blame all the scroungers some of them need assistance.
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Originally posted by fakedirt
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i agree it is indeed going to be an interesting year. i wonder what the cut back list will start with. broadband? sky? mobile package? get rid of the puppy? i know, we are gonna start shopping at aldi instead of marks's.
one less pie a week and restrict ourselves to one takeaway per month should do it.
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In all honesty there is a growing culture within our corporates of ripping us off.. and everyone I know feels they are being ripped off.. no matter what is cut, or where each of us cut our spending, it is never enough for the corporates.

I feel sadly we face a couple of paths to follow, one that leads to civil disturbance which places the greedy corporate/establishments necks on the line.. the other is the establishment creating a war to distract us from them and their naughty behaviour.

I'm sad as I feel the latter path is the one they will choose.

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i get what you are stating. with our infrastructure 40% foreign owned it could be said we are already in a state of war in terms of our finances. i really do not think the uk will ever get invaded by another country just for the fact that everything has gone to ratcrap and who would want to rule that kind of mess. a global liability we are.
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Many things I could have added to the list of why our Government need the taxes from fuel and a fine suggestion.

If you are lazy scum, why do you need help from the State? Those that need help are not lazy scum and are attempting to help themselves first. It is all the lazy scum who expect the state to provide for them.

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apologies freedom erp i worded it wrong. i agree lazy scroungers need a kick in the butt. i do feel the situation is changing albeit slowly. i have had 2 days off work this year through choice. new years eve and christmas day.
i drive round town picking kit up then go to the job. along the way i witness daily many people inward,looking miserable and lost with no routine other than go to the shops,walk their dogs and generally slouched as they walk by. i myself was disabled in an industrial accident many years ago. i received assistance from the state whilst i was in physiotherapy. i had the choice of permanent sick or do something with my life. if it wasn't for the state assisting me when i needed the most i think things would have turned out for the worst with regards other 'opportunities' that presented themselves.
the though of filling in my days on the sick horrified me so the choice was made and has been stuck to ever since. it's coming up 16 years i have been in business now(set up with money saved from sick pay).
btw without the state assisting me i would not have been able to afford the uni degree i attained not too long ago.
an even and fair hand with acceptable opportunities needs to be offered whilst the other parties need to recognise their responsibilities to the rest of society.
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No worries fakedirt, and I am quite happy for my taxes to be used to help those that need it and I am delighted that the State was there to help you.

That's the big question everybody is asking!

Why is it in the UK, we are ripped off?

Petrol, house prices, food prices, gas / electric bills, council tax etc.

The Country and it's people have reached breaking point.

Record amounts of people are declaring bankruptcy, huge numbers of companies are going bust, every day!

A lot of it is the Governments fault.

Why are they spending billions keeping troops out in Afghanistan?

Why are they giving billions a year to Brussels so we can buy and sell goods using Euro's?

Why are they giving new houses, driving lessons, food, hundreds a week in benefits and other nice luxuries to immigrants? People that don't belong here in the UK and take all the jobs from the UK citizens?

You can pay hundreds of pounds per month in National Insurance to eventually get your basic pension of what, £80 per week? Then we give 3 or 4 times that per week to foreigners!

Yes, the UK is screwed up including it's Petrol prices which is what started me off on all this to begin with.

Major riots are on the horizon. I can't see it doing any good because even after all the violence in London recently with the students, what good did it do, nothing, zilch?

Don't know what to suggest really apart from we plan on moving to a different Country soon, escaping to somewhere more normal!

Obviously I'm not in the UK, but you guys might be interested in what happened here in the US during the most recent fuel price spike...

Trucking companies started losing money overnight. As a result, shipping prices began to spike as well, and no one wanted to be left holding the bag for items which had been pre-ordered and pre-paid, including shipping. So a 'fuel surcharge' was quickly implemented, and tied to the price of fuel. That saved the transportation companies and most of the Owner-Operators (except for the exception below), but it didn't stop prices form jumping across the board. Some retailers tried to absorb the costs to keep sales up, but eventually after a few months, they had to pass the costs of shipping on to their customers.

One exception was that the fuel surcharge was not regulated... it was a stop-gap measure that just caught on and was implemented by practically every company and broker. Many Owner-Operators and a few large companies who used brokered loads lost their trucks (and thus their livelihood) when brokers started keeping the fuel surcharge paid by the customer, even though they did not pay for the fuel. There was a major push by OOIDA (the closest thing to a union the truckers have here) to have a Federal law passed that required the fuel surcharge to be paid to whoever was ultimately responsible of buying the fuel, but last I heard it had not passed.

Things seem to have stabilized for now here, but it caused inflation across the board and higher unemployment.

Good luck over there... fuel prices affect the price of everything that moves from one place to another, and that covers most everything made and sold... most many times over.

TheRedneck

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I really do hope that there are riots if this goes ahead. Something needs to finally be done to stop the government from constantly crapping on us.

I remember the good old days of 85p a litre when i had a little gilera 50. Am seriously thinking of downgrading to a bike again. I can barely afford my car as it is now.

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it's a big mess minkey53. with nearly all industries gone i feel its back to the stone age for us if the global system collapses. in a situation like this it is prudent to cut costs and get rid of non-essentials that come with monthly fees etc. i focus more on work/family objectives when i know the system is under strain. for a lot of people there is no such thing as freetime and that means doing ones best to plod along keeping those we love safe.
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