Let's Discuss America's Real Issues.

What concerns me, is that these supposed gov't programs, that offer "aid", such as food stamps, AFDC, WIC, and others like it, are run by racist bureaucrats, that put the "Head-of-household," through pure dog and pony show, of long lines, waiting lists, background checks, paperwork back to the days they were children in grade school, and wanting every scrap and document to "prove" everything they fill out on the application, then they turn around and deny the applicant the aid they severely need, just because they "can," and for no other reason at all. Ya..real helpful..gee..thanx a bunch! Been there..done that! Truth is, I'm the wrong race for needing help, according to the Department of Health and Human Resources.

Hetha,

Are you caucasian? I have a caucasian female friend who was able to get on AFDC, several years ago. She moved into a great house, with plenty of room, in a nice area, with a sweet, fenced and shady yard (big shade trees) and all the gadgets and gizmos worked, while my husband and I who both worked hard at our jobs, could only afford a mobile home at the time. I was actually jealous of her house for awhile. If you're willing to do the footwork and paperwork, I think it can be done provided you meet their criteria. She had three children, two of which were teenagers (male and female) and one who was under the age of 12 (also female). She was given a 4 bedroom (comfortable bedrooms not closet-sized) home with a basement and garage! And not in some major city, either, but out in the area she was from, which was a nice rural community.

Anyway, your experience may vary.

Everything comes down to how educated you are, how hard you work, and how good you are at a job.
Anyone (who can afford it) can get a degree. Even a 1:1 pass.
Anyone can get a job.
It takes someone with flair and brilliance to rise to the top, but it's not too hard to achieve.
You need to train your minds, and instead of spending all your time posting on the internet about how life sucks, go out there and make a difference to your own life, for the sake of your children, if nothing else.
Take night-time courses in something that is fundamentally looked for, e.g. physics and algebra, or learn a foreign language...

Browha,
Fundamentally, I do agree with you. However, and a huge however, in a utopian world, this would work 100% of the time. We are far from being in a utopian world. This is not the current state of my life. Fortunately, I'm not in that situation anymore. I worked long and hard, to get into the position I'm at today, and currently trying to get into school, to study a vocational trade, to improve my personal status quo. Not complaining, I'm pointing out flaws in the current system, that need reform.

Undomiel,
Times have changed. Yes, ten years ago or so, that may or may not have been the best case scenario, for someone who needed that type of aid, and maybe it was a little easier to receive that kind of aid. Nowadays,(also depending on location), the DOH, makes people who meet and exceed in their preset criteria, fall and slip through the cracks. Big Ones. With no valid reason. Sad, but very true! I'm not alone. I've met others, who experienced similar circumstances. No matter how you slice it, It is wrong, on many levels, and presents a very screwed up image, of who the DOH should be helping, you know, those that are actually trying to help themselves. People who just need that temporary boost, to keep their feet from dragging.

How about going to join a company as an apprentice? You learn skills there whilst being paid...

Browha, where do you work? I have about 6 applications out right now. I had over 20, just went store to fast food place to record store to Kmart to Krogers to another fast food place and so forth. Navarre is the lively hood of Oregon Ohio so there are tons of places to apply for. I just can't get hired. Hell, I couldn't get a job at Burger King and they've had a help wanted sign up for the past 2 months. It is still up! I guess they were hoping for an infiltrator that can't speak english to show up to work for a dollar a day.(Infiltrator is what a so called "illegal alien" is for that is what they do, infiltrate)

I still have to hope for Subway, Krogers, Taco Bell, Pharm, Mr. Beefy's, and last and definately least, McDonalds.

You all have touch a very sensitive issue about our on people in US having problems finding jobs and the ones that find jobs this jobs does not pay enough for all the expenses they may have. Some state help does not apply if you have any kind of income.

WeBDeviL,
You are right if the person is a service member it will have a job still as a member of the arm forces.
But a reservist may come back to the same place of work but the job that he held before leaving may be substituted.

Deeprivergal
Sometimes relocation like some has point out is a good alternative, I know is difficult to leave family and familiar places but sometime you have to think about your family first. And you are right about grants I have look into some myself finding that I can not quality for any.

Keyem, I know exactly what you feel I have two kids one in college and money is tight.

Theswordmaster,

Dental care is expensive and not everybody can afford insurance.



[edit on 7-7-2004 by marg6043]

I dont work actually, I'm still in school.
Heading to university in a couple years where I hope to get a 1:1 in Physics then progress to do a PhD in physics....

Originally posted by marg6043
Deeprivergal
Sometimes relocation like some has point out is a good alternative, I know is difficult to leave family and familiar places but sometime you have to think about your family first. And you are right about grants I have look into some myself finding that I can not quality for any.

Ah yes relocation. See the problem with relocation is that it takes, can you believe it, of all things!, money! And when you don't have it you can't relocate.

I live in NC, the Latino Capital of the United States, and no offense, but if anyone listens to Paul Harvey, he reported that North Carolina is the largest home of illegal immigrants. There is no federal funding around here because we are supporting them.

I do understand why immigrants come to this country. Because they can reap the benefits of it while actual Americans lose their jobs, because they can do it for cheaper and they have 10 families living in one home. I get it.

Look on CNN. On its homepage it shows that North Carolina's Latino population QUADRUPLED in the 90's. More than any other state in the Nation. Find jobs for white americans in this state? Forget it, they are non-existant.

Originally posted by browha
I dont work actually, I'm still in school.
Heading to university in a couple years where I hope to get a 1:1 in Physics then progress to do a PhD in physics....

No offense but when you finally get out there and start making a living trying to get a job off that nice little diploma. I hope you have more luck than those who have already put their time in school and gotten that pretty little degree watch it hang on the wall and collect dust because they are no jobs to use it for.