What Happens When We Die?

reply to post by totalmetal


Lol, niiiice.

I'm not trying to condone it, plus talking about it goes agianst the rules and revulations here.

I can't say much, but I asked questions while i was on it, and i was given answers.

Just do it responsibly, thats about all I can say here.

Well, I cannot say what happens to anyone else, but I know what happened to me. In 2009 I had a heart attack, was rushed to the hospital, and died. I was suddenly aware that I was above the doctors and my body, and could see the doctor take a really long needle and shove it right into my heart, while one of the nurses charged the crash cart. As soon as I was aware of this, I was taken to a place where it was quite dark. I looked around, but saw no one or anything, it was completely black. Then I was a glimmer of light in the distance, and began to walk toward it. It was the strangest thing. It was big at the bottom, and rotated in a clockwise rotational pattern. It was not one big light, but rather some kind of base with a lot of lights, all very bright indeed, with brilliant white light.. As the Light rose above it's bottom, it got smaller in diameter. I looked at this and thought of the baggage thing at the airport, it was roughly the same shape. The Light felt very inviting, and beckoned me to enter.

I felt myself being drawn into the Light, and pulled back, and began to protest. "Stop for a second!" "What in hell is this place, anyway?" It was then that the Light spoke. not in a human voice, but more like a machine, or computer voice. It told me to ask questions, and it could answer, but could not give any information freely. So, I asked it what it was. No answer. I asked again, and was told, "The presence is not informed of this." In the rest of the answers it always referred to itself as "the presence."

As I began to question this device, and that is what it is, I was shown that it could send me to many different "places," or rather "dimensions." I was shown several different "heavens," and several different "hells," and some other places too. I kept telling it to show me everything it had to show, and the places began to go faster and faster. I realized that all one needed to do is visualize a place of rest, and that is where you will get to go! It was then that I felt hands pulling me back, and pushing me down. I woke up being loaded into a helicopter.

I have given this much thought, as one could imagine, and have come to the conclusion that we create our own afterlife, right here in this life. You can either go to your place, or the default place, and any other place. When I was at the Light I could have easily went somewhere else, I was not a prisoner there. I have had many dreams of a large house on a beach. there are many folks around, and food and drink, and everyone is happy. I think I have been there before, not just a few times, but many times.

Our human Spirit is a Divine thing, a part of G-D, if you will. It cannot die. It can only create. Here on this plane we create. For instance, I think of a thing. I draw the thing on paper. I gather materials and create the thing. On this plane it took me four steps to create. On that plane creation is instantaneous. Whatever you think of, becomes a reality. You can create anything you wish. This is why it is important to train your mind, and not let your human emotions rule over you. I would say that in that dimension of time and space it would be very easy to "Fall" back into the 3rd dimension again, and truthfully, that is what I think happens to us.
We we ever learn how to act?

Hope this has helped some of you to understand, the others have beliefs that are set into stone. Remember this always, A mind is like a parachute. It only worksd when opened. Cheers.

Interesting reply if true. Sorry I do not mean to say what you say is a lie but I tend to question most things today.
In trying to get ready to find out the answer to this lately I have been doing a lot of reading and thinking. Also strangely a lot of remembering. And the strange thing is the things you seem to recall and how clear they are.
As to what happens we will all find out sooner or later. Being impatient I guess I am taking the sooner than later approach. But what I can base my thoughts on is what I have personally seen, heard or done. What I have seen for my own experience is what many would call strange.
I was 15 and it was early in the am as I was getting ready to go to school. My mother came out of her bedroom and just said very plainly " he is here". Then collapsed in my arms as I tried to catch her, as limp as she was even then at that age I knew she was gone. She was raised British Presbyterianism if I recall. So I have to assume the he she saw was her God.
My Father was in ICU in a VA hospital and I was visiting him he kept trying to push me aside to see someone named Sarah. Since he and I were the only ones in the room I have no idea who Sarah was as far as I can tell he had no relatives named that.
My sister was in a hospital room and for a week we spoke about her visitor that only she could see. According to her he was a old gent in his late 70's dressed like a riverboat gambler in the 1800's. Every time she tried to speak to him or look directly at him he disappeared.
Point being three people seem to have had a "guide" to help them go wherever they are to go. I am curious as to who I will see and hope I will have time to document what I see before I go.
But given what I have seen I tend to lean toward you go to whatever "your version of heaven is". If you are heavy into religion you will believe more in a god or Satan to pass a few centuries with. Otherwise I think you have someone to guide you where you will be happy. If that's a redo of life or out on the farm where you are happy depends on you. I have never been big on a "hell" Real life seems to be that just fine as a hell.

Originally posted by acegotflows
we come back to earth until we do it right...

The law of returning, herd of it. And what is after we get it right, where to ?

The best thing to happen would be to just get a screen with a button "Resurect" or return to your body and resurect like in World of Warcraft

You just die, as someone said earlier we just have to face the truth. All those memories, all those electrical pulses through the brain stop. It just ends.

To believe anything else might make it easier for you but it doesn't mean it's true.

I've done past life regressions for many years using a combination of hypnotherapy and accupressure to induce the deepened states of awareness. I have been on the table being regressed as much as I have done regressions on other people. It is important to go through the death experience after each life review, as an observer, because it truly helps to resolve the fear of death if we show our conscious mind that we have died many times before and there is nothing to fear. Generally, in the last moments of dying, the strugle to survive is overcome by a great sense of peace coming over the individual, followed by a release from the body, and then floating above the body. Most people experience a great sense of love and peace in this state, say their final goodbyes to their loved ones, and then are 'pulled' to another area of consciousness. Some go through a light, over a bridge, through a tunnel. Some say they are met by a spiritual figure like Jesus or a light they deem as God, others are met by loved ones. They are sometimes met by a guide who will take them through a life review. They then move on to an area they see as a community or a city. Some go to a great hall of wisdom where they review their just finished life. They then are given time to rest, rejuvinate, spend time with loved ones, pursue interests and studies that are ongoing in their afterlife, and begin to make plans for another lifetime so they may continue having experiences that their souls want to pursue.

Books on this subject that I highly recommend are Journey of Souls and Destiny of Souls by Dr. Michael Newton. They really explore the afterlife. What I have gathered in my regression sessions is similar to the findings by Dr. Newton. It is a fascinating read.

Originally posted by DisbeIief
You just die, as someone said earlier we just have to face the truth. All those memories, all those electrical pulses through the brain stop. It just ends.

To believe anything else might make it easier for you but it doesn't mean it's true.

I would argue that your position is the easiest thing to believe as it makes anything you do in this life permissible and acceptable. Your "philosophy" is easier as it makes living easier, no responsibility no recriminations. Death is not about the act of dying it is about the impact the reality of it has on living life, your position argues no impact, no meaning, no absolute, nothing.

We will all find out soon enough as our time here is short but the answer is simple enough:

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, that each one may receive what is due him for the things done while in the body, whether good or bad.

reply to post by slane69


I mean easy as in a crutch, something to get you through. A belief that you will be reunited magically with dead loved ones. Desperate stuff really.

I believe that there are no consequences to face, sure do what you want. We're not special, we've existed for the blink of an eye compared to how long dinosaurs roamed the earth. Will we meet them? I doubt it.

I'd prefer it if there was something after, a reason for us being here but there is not. The huddled masses have been told there is in order to control them, make them scared of what death might bring if they don't behave.

Ignorance has brought about rituals and beliefs in all kinds of rubbish. Well it's rubbish to me but if it makes someone happy, it's legal and it doesn't impact on me then go for it.

And why must there be a reason for any of it? I'm more of the opinion that purpose and meaning are human constructs that we strive in a futile manner to comprehend. Existence may be no more likely than non-existence, and our lives very likely are without meaning in any appreciable sense. However, where we disagree is in the area's of morality. It seems you argue that without a punishment or reward system set up in some kind of magical 'afterlife', one cannot or will choose not to live a moral life because there is no reason too. It makes more sense to me that living a 'moral' (and I use the word very loosley here because I believe good/evil/morality are also human constructs that don't exist except for in our minds) is proven much more worthwhile when it is done purely for the desire to do it, rather than through the threat of eternal torment or paradise.

reply to post by autowrench


If it were not for stories like this I would say we have no idea. But there are--thousands of them. Unless you dismiss these stories as intentional deception, there is a commonality of experiences here that suggests there is another realm. I don't think the religions have got it down, frankly, because they are more interested in governing our lives on Earth. That does not mean there isn't an element of truth in theor teachings. But it's stories like this from personal experiences that convince me something along these lines will happen.

reply to post by totalmetal


I believe that it is irrelevant.

There's no need to know what happens when you die as long as one is alive.

When one dies - one knows. Or does he?

Maybe we are dead - and maybe the question for which you seek the answer is not what you think it is.

For what we know we could be in heaven and/or hell... Or we could exist only in imagination of God or a person or maybe we do not exist at all.

So we come to question "Is there death?" and if there is "What exactly is death?"

1) how does your spirit know your dead?
Just like you know if you are awake or not.
Ask yourself every once in a while, "Am I awake?" Then this habbit
crosses over into your dreams. "Am I awake?" and you will know the answer is no.
And then you are awake in your dream.

Being out of body is very much like being dead.
However, when you are not dead, you are connected with your body.
You can feel this if you ask yourself to.

This is part of the structure of the universe.
Someone shoots you. You die. You know you're dead.
You agreed to that when you signed up.
2) what happens?
When you die, you start to contract into a ball of light.
You then go up the spinal column and out. (this is usually seen as the tunnel leading to the light)

When you get out, depending on what you believe, how heavy your soul is,
how you died, and a many other bits that are just the sum of how do you feel
when you died you will find yourself in various states.

If you have this longing unfilled desire. Something that keeps you tied to the earth,
you may hang around as a ghost. You may even continue your life as if you didn't die.
Yes, most of the people in your life ignore you, but hey, they ignored you before.

You may not have enough energy to make it across the Bardos. The realms in between
the physical and the non-physical. If you get stuck here, you will just relieve your deepest
mental anguishes until you find a way across.

Most indigos, and anyone who follows a path of spirituality and builds their internal
strength, will just cross to the non-physical. (the path of spirituality lightens the
soul, by taking care of all of those 'tieing-down' emotions before they die.)

You will then cross to the non-physical. Often many of your deceased friends will
come to say welcome back. Your guides and angels will also be there to help you
across.

After you have crossed, you will either go to heaven. A rest home to recuperate
after a rough life. The Bible describes heaven as what I would describe as the
third plane of heaven. Not all heaven looks like that. You will go to the level that
fits you.


4) can i be a extra terestrial
If you are asking, am I an extraterrestrial in a human body?
If you are, then when you die, you will realize that and more.

If you are asking, I hate this planet, can I go try another?
Then the answer is sorta. Getting to reincarnate on your home planet
is fairly straight forward. Going to another planet is quite a bit more complicated.
Kinda like, please fill out all of these extra forms complicated.


5) my home system is paladies (i think), do i get to go back? Will i be astral / phyiscal? Do i have family there?

You have spiritual family there. When you die, you can go see all of your
family that is in spirit. Whether they are here on earth or over there in the Pleiades.

Will you reincarnate over here or over there is your choice. And that will be made
by your self... the larger self that you are. Basically your current self, your subconcious
and your self that you know once you re-emerge from the brilliant focus that is physicallity.


6) Where will i go, what will it be like, do i know whats happening?

You will know far more of what is happening then you do now. You will choose all
aspects of your next life. Where, when, how, with whom. You will choose your
parents; your parents will choose you.


This cycle of death and birth is very similar to sleeping and waking. Just on
a much longer scale. A baby often struggling against
going to sleep. Older, they are often quite happy to go to sleep.


This is all inside of this universe.
You can wake up from this universe too.
Usually this has to be done in the waking state.
You have to transcend the entire universe.
First you will have a moment of becoming enlightened. This is when you stop
pretending that the universe is real, and know it is not. When you stop pretending
you are you and I am me. (It is not that feeling that you think the world isn't real
that most of us on IS have. It is a sudden KNOWING. When you get there, you
will KNOW. Until then, just keep working towards greater freedom)

Stories of children who claim to have lived past lives have been documented around the globe.
The idea of reincarnation does have some backup....
I sure hope we dont just fffade away......but would it matter if we did?
namaste s

Originally posted by 19rn50
reply to post by totalmetal

 

Here is a link to the best story, I have ever read. Her eyes where taped shut.
The blood was drained from her brain. Her body temp lowered, and they stopped
her heart. So, they could operate on her brain cancer.
www.near-death.com...

Wow, her description of going into a vortex or tornado, yet without the vertigo explains what I have tried to tell others about a night of going out of body. She stated it far clearer than I, but it was what I went through as well.

No, I did not die, I just felt torn out of body after extending my consciousness 12 miles away to find an entity/ghost or what ever was there. This thing was and still is a part of my grand sons life, somewhat violent. Yes, I knew I was away from my body and I was ok. I sent information back to the body to calm down as it was going bonkers and hyperventilating. Then I found myself not in a tunnel as I really was quite alive, but in blackness and just took over from there, creating light and finding my way out of this abandoned building in a city I knew nothing about.

Damn right we are more than just this body for later I was accompanied by some beings whom did not show themselves, yet I was taken out of body and able to see my soul, one of those light being folks speak of, for that is us, beings of light and pretty damn cool to know that.

a dream in reality is only a fleeting moment... but it feels like hours... i believe when you die you slip into an eternal dream.. just my 2 cents

Originally posted by stirling
Stories of children who claim to have lived past lives have been documented around the globe.
The idea of reincarnation does have some backup....

What do you think to the idea that some images, information or experiences can be passed on in the genes?

If death has the last word and enclosed life, then were does all this life keep on coming from..? Seems to me that death is swallowed up in life, which just keeps on regenerating, like some sort of eternal wellspring of life meeting life. I do not see how any self realized or aware human being can believe in death as his/her utter end, that does not appear to function or operate the way that life operates, where death is always just an intermission, and a very temporary PART of life. If it was the other way around and death silenced life, or stopped life, then there wouldn't be life. Conscious life therefore understands that life is real and death ephemeral and transient. And I do not say this out of fear or even religious belief, but only based on astute observeration and awareness. That said, it is always wise to live as a free person in the eternally unfolding present moment, so as to perform our function in THIS life, which is to LIVE. Of course our present configuration and particular ego isn't going to live forever, and it's just an illusion to begin with anyway, but the true self, the spiritual being, that is already always alive.

Our thinking I think is flawed and amuzing.