Jesus was a Space Alien

reply to post by quantum_flux


It's a shame that we have tor rely on a bunch of superstitious semi-cavemen for facts from 2000 years ago. We can't even prove OJ killed his wife from 10 years ago! And if a god has to kill his son to make a point he shouldn't be a god. that's sick! you're god, for christ's sake, you couldn't think of anything better to do than that? Plus that "test" he gave to abraham to see if he would kill his son, that's really sick too. he's a sado-masochist psychopath with the compassion of a serial killer and he recruits humans to share in his ignorant psychopathic blood bath. any god that requires the destruction of any life that is already existing is beyond comprehension! and he wants suck me into that! let's make a new god. i heard the current version of santa claus is looking for the job!

reply to post by gj3200


Presumably that makes him not a god but rather a being with emotions and such. Gods can't have emotions, emotions are only necessary for beings that don't know everything.

Originally posted by quantum_flux
I absolutely don't understand how anybody could believe that "three wise astronomers" could somehow follow a star or the moon or a planet to a particular location on Earth ... however, it might be possible for people to follow a helicopter or quadrotor or something hovering just a little bit closer to the ground though.

It is something to consider, perhaps Carl Sagan was wrong and Jesus actually was an alien hybrid. If it actually happened it would explain why Herod had all the babies killed and was totally freaked out that a superior being was going to take over, how they got from Bethlehem to Egypt in a day or two, the UFO was the "Star of Bethlehem", Jesus was actually radio-communicating his status to the mothership instead of "praying to god", perhaps he molecularly cloned the fish and bread using a nanomachine technology instead of "blessing" it, etc, etc, etc.

edit on 24-12-2010 by quantum_flux because:

You know, ATS policy wants us members to be civil and restraint from insulting but I just can't help myself. I see a thread with jesus or god in the title and I know right off the bat that the OP has to be mentally challenged especially when offering a sucky topic such as yours. Jesus is a myth. There is no historical evidence to support anything about him and here you are with this dumb title.

Is your life so boring that this is the best you can bring to the table?

Originally posted by Segador
No, Jesus is the nice guy that lives down the block with the gorgeous family.

You're lucky today.... I'm providing a picture of "Jesus is a nice guy"...
Jesus is a nice GUY

reply to post by quantum_flux


This is extremely offensive to me. Jesus is the savior of the world and you are mocking Him. You should be kissing His feet. Do you have any idea how much He loves you? He died for your sins so that you could live with Him forever. Friend I wish nothing more than for you to get saved. I would die for you to know Him, so that we could be together in Heaven.

No matter what anyone says, the bible refers to the angels and the creator himself of ones not of this world. As they came here to create us and everything around us. Now, if they were not of this world. What does that make them? Just saying..

Referring to the title, there is no proof of that, as he was born on this earth. Hybrid, some would definitely argue as it's indeed possible.

reply to post by freedish


You ever thought about applying for a job as a martyr? Really though, I think it can be seen as offensive from several angles. If you believe in the Christ story and have tremendous faith of it's truth, you could be greatly offended.

Another way to be offended is to not believe the story and have someone tell you that you are wrong, that you will be damned forever, or have them constantly shoving the concept into your personal world.

I believe in the story. However, I do not believe the telling is correct, as the story seems to have been told several different times over the millennia. Other stories have been re-told as well, such as the tale Gilgamesh and the similarities it shares with the tale of Noah. I wish I knew the names of the other, previous, tellings. The names are quite common in historical writings, if you heard the names you would more than likely know of them,

I also feel that several items in the story have been mis-interpreted or mis-uberstood altogether.

Nevertheless the breakthrough in the understanding of the reality is connected with Jesus and it is not so biblical. I would bet on the gnostics and the Alexandrian school.

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If Jesus... then Buddha and Krishna too

reply to post by quantum_flux


Well firstly you have prove Jesus even existed before it can even be contemplated that he was an alien. That is jumping the gun a bit there!

Originally posted by quantum_flux
reply to post by gj3200

 

Presumably that makes him not a god but rather a being with emotions and such. Gods can't have emotions, emotions are only necessary for beings that don't know everything.

Have you even read the bible? Or are you just making all these claims based on your assumptions?
God feels compassion, He says this himself, therefor He does feel emotions.

The LORD is good to all; he has compassion on all he has made.

Psalm 145:9

I find it crazy that you can't fathom Jesus being the son of God, or their even being a God,
yet you find it a possibility that Jesus was a space alien. Really? Wow.

To all whom are offended, I just would like to say .... you don't have a monopoly on interpreting ancient religious texts, not at all.

This has been floating around the different news stations over the last couple of days. The rediscovered story of the 3 kings, or magi.

www.redicecreations.com...

In the "Revelation of the Magi," Landau said, the Star of Bethlehem not only led the Wise Men, but actually became the Christ child. "The cave is filled with light," Landau said, describing the transcribed text. "They’re kind of hesitant about this, but eventually the star...its light concentrates and reveals the small luminous human being...a star child, if you will...it’s Christ."

"Star child".

www.sify.com...

So who the Magi are in this text is, they are descendants of Adam and Eve's third son, Seth. They live in this far eastern land. The text calls the land 'Shir' and from other ancient texts, it seems like the place it had in mind is the land of China," said Landau.
This version is very different from the one in Bible, he said. In the newly found text, the Star of Bethlehem not only led the Wise Men, but actually became the Christ child. "The cave is filled with light. They're kind of hesitant about this, but eventually the star...its light concentrates and reveals the small luminous human being...a star child, if you will...it's Christ," he quoted the text.
The most startling difference is that the "star child" spoke to the Magi. "Christ tells them, 'This is one of many occasions on which I have appeared to the peoples of the world'. So this text may even be saying that there are no non-Christian religions because Christ is the revelation behind everything," Landau said.

The small (newly born) luminous starchild spoke to the Magi.

Good find, as could be expected.

reply to post by quantum_flux


You do know Jesus was said to look like an ordinary man and never stood out, right? How could he have been an alien?

Originally posted by Nventual
reply to post by quantum_flux

 

You do know Jesus was said to look like an ordinary man and never stood out, right? How could he have been an alien?

Jesus may be a hybrid, or just full out E.T. There are E.T's that look like us and can walk among us.

You have much to learn.

Christians believe that all the miraculous events of the Bible were supernatural occurences beyond rational explanation. Many claim that God is omnipotent and is not limited in any fashion yet the Bible itself reveals God to be VERY limited, especially in the methods he must use to interact with man. One of these methods that we will examine is God's need for physical crafts to transport himself and his angels from one location to another.
God disguised as a Rain Cloud

The Bible has many examples of God using flying vehicles to travel from one location to another. Often times we read of God hiding his spacecraft(s) in mysterious clouds. One reason God may have done this was in an attempt to hide his physical "chariot" or flying spaceship from the ignorant masses.

One of the first examples of God's use of cloud-covered UFO's in the Bible can be found in Exodus 13:21. In this passage, God is leading Moses and the Hebrews away from Egypt.

Exodus 13:21 And the LORD went before them by day in a pillar of a cloud, to lead them the way; and by night in a pillar of fire, to give them light; to go by day and night: 13:22 He took not away the pillar of the cloud by day, nor the pillar of fire by night, from before the people.

God used his celestial vehicle and its weaponry to blind the Egyptians while being a spotlight for the Israelites. In the following passage, God's physical spacecraft is called the "angel of God." When this craft moves itself to the rear of the Israelite camp, the cloud follows suit.

Exodus 14:19 And the angel of God, which went before the camp of Israel, removed and went behind them; and the pillar of the cloud went from before their face, and stood behind them: 14:20 And it came between the camp of the Egyptians and the camp of Israel; and it was a cloud and darkness to them, but it gave light by night to these: so that the one came not near the other all the night. 14:24 And it came to pass, that in the morning watch the LORD looked unto the host of the Egyptians through the pillar of fire and of the cloud, and troubled the host of the Egyptians, 14:25 And took off their chariot wheels, that they drave them heavily: so that the Egyptians said, Let us flee from the face of Israel; for the LORD fighteth for them against the Egyptians.

Another common title used by the authors of the Bible for the actual glowing spacecraft that transported the heavenly messengers was "the glory of the Lord." This craft was often described as rainbow colored or metalic and glowing.

16:10 And it came to pass, as Aaron spake unto the whole congregation of the children of Israel, that they looked toward the wilderness, and, behold, the glory of the LORD appeared in the cloud.

God explained to Moses that the reason for the cloud is so that people will recognize that it is God who was speaking with Moses and they will believe that Moses' word was God's word.

Exodus 19:9 And the LORD said unto Moses, Lo, I come unto thee in a thick cloud, that the people may hear when I speak with thee, and believe thee for ever.

The Bible describes God's descent upon the mount in a manner which would be consistent with an ancient Hebrew describing a rocketship landing:

Exodus 19:16 And it came to pass on the third day in the morning, that there were thunders and lightnings, and a thick cloud upon the mount, and the voice of the trumpet exceeding loud; so that all the people that was in the camp trembled. 19:17 And Moses brought forth the people out of the camp to meet with God; and they stood at the nether part of the mount. 19:18 And mount Sinai was altogether on a smoke, because the Lord descended upon it in fire: and the smoke thereof ascended as the smoke of a furnace and the whole mount quaked greatly.

God threatened any who attempted to get a close look at him or his celestial spacecraft with death. One reason for this threat may have been due to a radiation hazard, since God speaks of how he will not allow the radiation to "break forth" upon those who have been properly protected (by protective garments) or "sanctified."

Exodus 19:21 And the LORD said unto Moses, Go down, charge the people, lest they break through unto the LORD to gaze, and many of them perish. 19:22 and let the priests also, which come near to the LORD, sanctify themsleves, lest the LORD break forth upon them. 19:23 And Moses said unto the LORD, The people cannot come up to mount Sinai: for thou chargedst us, saying, Set bounds about the mount, and sanctify it. 19:24 And the LORD said unto him, Away, get thee down, and thou shalt come up, thou, and Aaron with thee: but let not the priests and the people break through to come up unto the LORD lest he break forth upon them.

After Moses warned the people about God's desire for privacy, he returned to God's spacecraft. God's glowing craft: "Glory of the Lord" was now parked on the mount.

Exodus 24:15 And Moses went up into the mount, and a cloud covered the mount. 24:16 And the glory of the LORD abode upon mount Sinai, and the cloud covered it six days: and the seventh day he called unto Moses out of the midst of the cloud. 24:18 And Moses went into the midst of the cloud, and gat him up into the mount: and Moses was in the mount forty days and forty nights.

While up in God's cloud, Moses received instruction on how to construct the Ark of the Covenant, the Tabernacle, and how to offer sacrifices that will be "pleasing" to God. The Ark of the Covenant was a type of energy storage device that will be discussed in greater detail in a later article. Later, God once again descended in a cloud, this time he beamed down to speak with Moses "face to face."

Exodus 33:9 And it came to pass, as Moses entered into the tabernacle, the cloudy pillar descended, and stood at the door of the tabernacle, and the LORD talked with Moses. 33:10 And all the people saw the cloudy pillar stand at the tabernacle door: and all the people rose up and worshipped, every man in his tent door. 33:11 And the LORD spake unto Moses face to face, as a man speaketh unto his friend. And he turned again into the camp: but his servant Joshua, the son of Nun, a young man, departed not out of the tabernacle.

When the Lord makes a physical appearance it is from a beam of energy described as a cloud in the daylight and a pillar of fire in the nighttime. Modern witnesses of UFOs have described alien creatures transporting themselves, humans, and animals to and from their flying saucers in a similar beam of energy.

Exodus 34:5 And the LORD descended in the cloud, and stood with him there, and proclaimed the name of the LORD.

One time God's spacecraft landed in the tabernacle and Moses couldn't get in because the spacecraft was blocking the entrance. As long as God's "Glory" remained parked in the tabernacle, the Hebrews camped where they were. When God's "Glory" took off again, the Hebrews continued with their journey.

Exodus 40:34 Then a cloud covered the tent of the congregation, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle. 40:35 And Moses was not able to enter into the tent of the congregation, because the cloud abode thereon, and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle. 40:36 And when the cloud was taken up from over the tabernacle, the children of Israel went onward in all their journeys: 40:37 But if the cloud were not taken up, then they journeyed not till the day that it was taken up. 40:38 For the cloud of the LORD was upon the tabernacle by day, and fire was on it by night, in the sight of all the house of Israel, throughout all their journeys.

In the Book of Leviticus, Aaron's two sons attempted to offer incense to God without following the proper protective protocols and they were destroyed by God's "fire." Moses then told Aaron that God warned them of the dangers of not following the protective protocols of "sanctification" before approaching the craft and since they violated the protocols, they paid the price.

Leviticus 10:1 And Nadab and Abihu, the sons of Aaron, took either of them his censer, and put fire therein, and put incense thereon, and offered strange fire before the Lord, which he commanded them not. 10:2 And there went out fire from the Lord, and devoured them, and they died before the Lord. !0;3 Then Moses said unto Aaron, This is it that the Lord spake, saying, I will be sanctified in them that come nigh me, and before all the people I will be glorified. And Aaron held his peace.

This event is very similar to the time when the Ark of the Covenant was being transported on a cart. When the Ark was shaken and appeared to be about to fall, one of the cart drivers reached out to stablize it. Since he was not properly insulated he was immediately electrocuted and died on the spot. (2 Samuel 6:6-9)

Apparently, when God is pulling maintenance on his "Glory" there are times when it is dangerous to be near the vehicle. This is probably due to the changes in the fabric of space/time which have been described to take place around alien vehicles which are able to alter their relative densities during interdimensional travel. Betty Andreason describes a similar phenomenon in her encounters with alien vehicles. (See "The Watchers" by Raymond Fowler)

www.textfiles.com...

"Dellschau wrote of the human race -- and even the planet Earth -- as
if he stood apart from it. One peculiar paragraph of his oddly
archaic German reads: "Your Christian love reaches for the
Wanderplace, and wanders away from Earth. Planets there are enough
where Christian love shall be as we say so nicely in the Book
Selag.""

What it could mean, I still cannot process it.

Wow to this quote from MagicPriest420...

"all these stories are considered myths..and i find this a shame ,and the cover up of our true history,not what you learned in school....the teachings of jesus , had actually now become the main advantage of satan to keep us from knowing our true history...btw satan is an alien too,but an evil one,a liar and deciever,...he even has you tricked so well you dont even know hes an alien..."

Originally posted by quantum_flux
Wow to this quote from MagicPriest420...

"all these stories are considered myths..and i find this a shame ,and the cover up of our true history,not what you learned in school....the teachings of jesus , had actually now become the main advantage of satan to keep us from knowing our true history...btw satan is an alien too,but an evil one,a liar and deciever,...he even has you tricked so well you dont even know hes an alien..."

As I said, the devils are a reptillian race from the star system, Alpha Draconis. They are the most technology advanced race, they were the first ones to space travel which was billions of years ago. Also, they are great genetic engineers and have altered genetics of animals and even alien races like the greys. Apparently, the draco's are doing this to us as we speak. The corrupted governments, the "satanic worship" which is a cover up which should be alien contact of the dracos. T.V was purposely made to alter our decisions and personality by subliminal messaging.