It Begins: Attorny General warns of threat from Radical Citizens

Originally posted by mydarkpassenger

Originally posted by wisintel
This is step I have been fearing and the one that I have been expecting for a long time. With the whole airport screening fiasco threatening to spill over to trains and buses and the upcoming roll out of "see something say something" Walmart Gestapo, this couldn't have been far behind. The Federal Government with this act tells me they are ready to truly start turning the citizenry against itself. A dark day for America in the midst of already terribly dark few years.

In a rare and wide-ranging interview, the attorney general disclosed chilling, new details about the evolving threat of homegrown terror, and touched on topics ranging from Wikileaks to the prisoners at Guantanamo Bay.

What was uppermost on his mind, however, is the alarming rise in the number of Americans who are more than willing to attack and kill their fellow citizens. "It is one of the things that keeps me up at night," Holder said.

"You didn't worry about this even two years ago -- about individuals, about Americans, to the extent that we now do. And -- that is of -- of great concern."

abcnews.go.com... show=GMA

Starred and flagged.

How long now till we are complete slaves? What's next? Monitoring voting booths to be sure we vote the right way? Eric Holder is a POS.

Not that I want to derail the topic, but what happened to the electronic voting booth fiasco? Is there any evidence that the process itself is a fraud, or is your vote still being counted?

Dam right they better worry!!

This doesnt deserve an original thought from me, it deserves a thought from someone who has seen this kind of thing happen before..

"Is life so dear, or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!"
-Patrick Henry

Originally posted by itsawild1
Dam right they better worry!!

They aren't worried. They're ready to slaughter who needs slaughtering.

Europe came up with the Magna Carta to get rights and protection from the King, our Constitution was supposed to enhance those rights and grant us more Liberty and Freedom.

Look at us now. If we try and make our own fireworks to celebrate Freedom on the 4th of July we will be imprisoned for making an illegal explosive device.

They aren't worried about citizens getting mad over losing their Freedom and Liberty. They can now legally torture, hold people indefinitely, even kill Americans now without even having a trial. No, they are not worried.

fortunately for we the people, we are the majority, so regardless of what the government thinks they can put on the table, we the people have been preparing ourselves since Waco to take it right back off the table. i say bring it on

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I'm from SoCal and was just home to visit my folks for the holidays when Long Beach PD shot and killed another "suspect." The guy had a garden hose nozzle that has the general outline of a (toy) gun, and the cops shot and killed him. Long Beach's record for fatal shot's fired on a suspect is 100%. Every time one of their officers fires on a suspect, that suspect is killed. Great ratio, but I think they need to calm down a little bit. No officers have been killed, and granted I don't want that statistic to rise, but I think they need to lay off a lot.

Anyone who speaks against, reveals information or challenges the US Govt, is a threat, is therefore the enemy and the enemy is now a Terrorist, Terrorists are not entitled to human rights, should therefore be locked away in a hole with no trial for as long as the U.S. decides.

So let me ask, at what point will an American citizen question their Govt and hold the actions of their administration to account, and not be considered a terrorist? Anyone who questions the evidence which is proof to thier Govt's lies, is someone revealing information which their Govt did not intend to release, information which is secret/top-secret is that which would cripple leaders and damage their credability, this is therefore a risk and how do you deal with a risk? Label them the enemy, a Terrorist and do so by claiming to protect the American people, but not be limited by the power available to persecute American people if they pose a risk to the people by revealing the leaders lies.

The people want truth and transparancy.

Originally posted by sharpy777
Anyone who speaks against, reveals information or challenges the US Govt, is a threat, is therefore the enemy and the enemy is now a Terrorist, Terrorists are not entitled to human rights, should therefore be locked away in a hole with no trial for as long as the U.S. decides.

So let me ask, at what point will an American citizen question their Govt and hold the actions of their administration to account, and not be considered a terrorist? Anyone who questions the evidence which is proof to thier Govt's lies, is someone revealing information which their Govt did not intend to release, information which is secret/top-secret is that which would cripple leaders and damage their credability, this is therefore a risk and how do you deal with a risk? Label them the enemy, a Terrorist and do so by claiming to protect the American people, but not be limited by the power available to persecute American people if they pose a risk to the people by revealing the leaders lies.

The people want truth and transparancy.

This is fascism pure and simple. They are using the whole "t3rr0r1shM" lie to push the idea home to the refiner slaves.

Praise Mao! More Football,Beer and Porno!

They are talking about American citizens who've converted to Islam and are becoming domestic terrorists not your home town red kneck with a gun or your naturalist living in montana. Don't be paranoid.

Good there scared

If we truly had domestic terrorists in this country, this country would have fallen by now. A low-tech, low-cost war would have already been waged. I-70, I-40, and I-80 would have been destroyed, for very little cost. The east-west rail lines would be destroyed, for the cost of a pry bar. Mountains would be burning, due to people lighting fires. City, County, State, and Federal resources would be stretched so thin, they'd break. Tanker trucks would be hijacked in major cities and blown up during rush hour. These things are all inexpensive, and wouldn't take more than 50-75 people to pull off.

So, when I hear these Communist pricks in the White House are saying there's a problem, they are dead wrong. They have no idea what they are talking about, and are simply looking for another way to steal our freedoms from us, somehow, some way.

Originally posted by ariusandvbob
They are talking about American citizens who've converted to Islam and are becoming domestic terrorists not your home town red kneck with a gun or your naturalist living in montana. Don't be paranoid.

Yeah, right. Coming from the administration that's too afraid to say "jihad", or "Muslim terrorist"? I don't think so. Their target is any WHITE American who owns a gun. Period. If they cared about the Muslims, they'd start in Michigan, and weed out the 3 or 4 that aren't terrorists and jail/execute the rest. Period!

The article has references to Muslims and "Al-Qaeda" throughout. However, who is he really talking about here?

Our governments MO is to use the alleged "war on terror" with Muslims as boogeymen to strip the average American of our rights.

I found this quote to be very telling:

The threat has changed from simply worrying about foreigners coming here, to worrying about people in the United States, American citizens -- raised here, born here, and who for whatever reason, have decided that they are going to become radicalized and take up arms against the nation in which they were born,"

Take up arms against the nation, not each other. Could this be interpreted as taking up arms against the government? And who might want to do that?

Dont think thats high atop the Muslim boogeyman agenda.

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I couldn't agree with you more. However, our November election turnaround is in the process of going to Washington now. Things will start changing again, back to the will of the people and not the will of "The One" and his loony liberal circus minions Pelosi, Ried, et al. What we have seen is what happens when a corrupt Chicago politician (if I remember correctly when Obama got elected to state senate, everyone running against him had dropped - articles.cnn.com...OLITICS) win the presidency and lets Left Coast liberal marauders make policy decisions and legislation. That was like a good swift kick to the groin for 90% of America - Woke up the sheeple a little bit. Took 2 whole years to figure out that the crazies should not be running the crazy house. I cant BELIEVE that people were so stupid and desperate in 2008 to vote for this guy, knowing his ties to the far left radicals and terrorists (Ayers), his own pastor that he listened to for 20 YEARS constantly inciting race tensions and damning America. Questionable and fuzzy college years, money from somewhere, ect, ect. And STILL we saw people on TV screaming "BARACK OBAMA GONNA PAY MY GAS AND MORTGAGE!!!" and others that just do what they are told or what is "cool" at the moment, or what will make them look "un-racist". Who voted for Obama??? ===> www.youtube.com... WAKE UP AND VOTE in 2012, LEARN ABOUT WHO YOU VOTE FOR!!!!!! also to the fan of communism - COMMUNISM IS BAD IT KILLS LOTS OF PEOPLE

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War on drugs was a huge crush to our freedoms. And to make things worse, children for decades were taught to demonize drug users but accept their pill popping, beer drinking, cig smoking parents. Cigs were healthy in the 50's, remember? Dont worry to the alpha males here, yes all guns should be legal too!
People have more options for info and communities like this do discuss things as freely as possible. We have the ability agai to limit our government and put them in their place. They see this as a threat and loss of their personal riches. When the public is TRULY allowed to assemble, the gov cant counter act with propaganda and they hate it. Times are a changin as they see!

Interesting to see how the forefathers got it right yet again. Life, LIBERTY, and the pursuit of HAPPINESS!

Originally posted by OptimusPrimate
reply to post by dialecticchaos77

 

How was communism a massive threat?? Did I miss something?What sort of threat did the USSR pose that wasn't just as great as that of the U.S? Two different socio-political system yes but non more threatening than the other.

"Oh My Garsh"... where were you during the 70's/80'ds when we nervously watched thousands of Soviet tanks for an inch of movement toward the Fulda Gap in Germany?????

Strategic Air Command ( "peace is our profession")stood ground alert 24-7.???

Some people continually have to relearn the lessons of the past.

central American countries lining up like Mcnamaras dominoes...????
The Cuban missile crisis.??
North Korea?
Its not just fancy humanitarian sounding writing.

That is used to lure the educated but clueless( "intelligentsia") to push for it . But Once its installed the big comrade at the top Always without fail rules with an iron fist. step away from those leftist professors and look around. recent world history.

Originally posted by aliengenes
fortunately for we the people, we are the majority, so regardless of what the government thinks they can put on the table, we the people have been preparing ourselves since Waco to take it right back off the table. i say bring it on

Ya know what?
I've been pretty gung-ho about passing out the bandages and magazines in the past ;But Beck made an interesting point the other day: Part of the extreme lefts agenda ( writings of "cloward and piven") include pushing the country over the edge into chaos. wiping the system and offering collectivism in its place ;but they can' get to third base if we Americans don't go off :

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Who wouldn't watch as large machines designed to kill scores of innocent humans are moved closer to being used? Killing is wrong!

Every side has big scary things meant to intimidate and people get nervous when the crackpots controlling them might use them. Has nothing to do with communism, socialism, or any other ism and has all to do a small majority making large profits using death and the fear of death.

Newsflash - There will never be a political ideal that works on paper. The best we can do is admit we have faults as humans and heavily promote the fact that killing another human is wrong (Unforeseen self defense being the exception to that rule)!

Also promote thet idea that material objects do not define a person. A lot of killing is the result of greed and the egotistical need to appear well off.

Originally posted by Solomons
reply to post by dialecticchaos77

 

Ohh please, communism has nothing to do with this and has never been a 'threat' to anyone. Go read the manifesto for christ sake. Anyway, i think this has been building up but is still only a minority of people, i think most are still quite apathetic to the situation...but even a small percentage of angry people seem to be unsettling the government.

I'm sorry but incredible (dangerous) ignorance on this subject can't be allowed to stand.
We were nose to nose with global communism represented by the soviets for about half the20th century.
( Kaiserslautern '89-'93)

The Fulda Gap in the Cold War
Theoretical attack routes through the Fulda Gap; the southeastern is Fulda, the northwestern is Alsfeld.

Strategists on both sides of the Iron Curtain understood the Fulda Gap's importance, and accordingly allocated forces to defend and attack it. NATO defence was primarily by the US V Corps. The actual East-West border in the Fulda Gap (see US Army Border Operations in "External links" below) was guarded by the 11th Armored Cavalry Regiment (ACR) from 1972 to 1994.

Before 1972, the 14th ACR patrolled the Fulda Gap for twenty-four years, and before them, the duties had been performed by the 3rd Constabulary Regiment and the 1st Constabulary Brigade.

The armored cavalry's (heavy, mechanized reconnaissance units equipped with tanks and other armored vehicles) mission in peace was watching the East-West border for signs of pre-attack Soviet army movement. The armored cavalry's mission in war was to delay a Soviet attack until other units of the U.S. V Corps could be mobilized and deployed to defend the Fulda Gap.

The armored cavalry would have also served as a screening force in continuous visual contact with the Warsaw Pact forces, reporting on their composition and activities. The divisions assigned to defend the Fulda Gap were the 3rd Armored Division [3rd AD], and the 8th Infantry Division (Mechanized) [8th ID].

The V Corps' principal adversary was the Soviet 8th Guards Army, which was to be followed by additional armies (including the 4 armored divisions and 1 mechanized infantry division of the Soviet 1st Guards Tank Army), making the Fulda Gap a key entry route for the Soviet Bloc to western Europe in any hypothetical battle in Cold War Europe; both armies were well-equipped and held high-priority for receiving new equipment.

en.wikipedia.org...

Added: this is where the impetus to develop the "Neutron bomb" came from. it would kill tank crews in their seats and stop an advance nato couldn't match for the sheer numbers.

Originally posted by Salamandy
reply to post by 46ACE

 

Who wouldn't watch as large machines designed to kill scores of innocent humans are moved closer to being used? Killing is wrong!

Every side has big scary things meant to intimidate and people get nervous when the crackpots controlling them might use them. Has nothing to do with communism, socialism, or any other ism and has all to do a small majority making large profits using death and the fear of death.

Newsflash - There will never be a political ideal that works on paper. The best we can do is admit we have faults as humans and heavily promote the fact that killing another human is wrong (Unforeseen self defense being the exception to that rule)!

Also promote thet idea that material objects do not define a person. A lot of killing is the result of greed and the egotistical need to appear well off.

yeah ok mr. rodgers "killing is wrong"
so is enslaving populations to the state.

you pick.
"War is simply politics by other means" Somebody important said that ( hmmm wiki wiki)