Has the gulf stream stopped? This video said "IT HAS"

The gulf stream current is gone. Thats the topic being discussed here by experts from an interview hosted by Freedomlink Radio, on the Intel Hub network, on the 3rd Sept 2010 If this is in fact the case, then Britain is about to experience a winter like none in living history. This could possible destroy the infrastructure of the country as we are not prepared for the onset of such cold!!!

geraldcelentechannel.blogspot.com...

There is a video there also.......
Good watch

Shauny

So what damage does that do to the world as a whole if the gulf stream has truly stopped???

I think its bad news for Europe.
www.timesonline.co.uk...

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I've heard a Little Ice Age, the likes, are a byproduct of a slowed/stalled Gulf stream.. among things.

This was discussed here on ATS a week or so ago. It's not the Gulf Stream, as in "Day After Tomorrow" we are all going to freeze to death, but rather the Gulf of Mexico circular stream that is shutting down. Apparently however, the Gulf of Mexico current does this. It slows, speeds up, stops, starts, changes course, etc. on a fairly regular basis.

Interesting read:
www.gulfstreamshutdown.com...

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Based on those three images, it really does not look like it has changed much at all in the past three years given the season (all three were generated for the same approximate date in December) using the tool here bulletin.mercator-ocean.fr...

The only thing that really strikes me as differant is the lack of a donut in the middle of the gulf of mexico

extinction level events happen when the tool that controls the weather stops working. the earth will have a new oceanic flow and that will change the weather. also it will effect the food chain starting from the ocean, local species may or may not survive a change in ocean currents.

Originally posted by alchemist2012
So what damage does that do to the world as a whole if the gulf stream has truly stopped???

The gulf stream regulates the temperature of the oceans, which in turn has knock off effects.

If it stops, then ya...its a very bad thing.

I am skeptical, but haven't yet reviewed the OPs..so will save the end of the world panic...still, just to be sure, I must take pre-emptive post action by putting in this:
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Lets hope its just some bad science at work verses a truth

Originally posted by LibertyLover
This was discussed here on ATS a week or so ago. It's not the Gulf Stream, as in "Day After Tomorrow" we are all going to freeze to death, but rather the Gulf of Mexico circular stream that is shutting down. Apparently however, the Gulf of Mexico current does this. It slows, speeds up, stops, starts, changes course, etc. on a fairly regular basis.

ok, whew...apocolypse has been poseponed due to weather...I was planning on dealing with the 2012 doomsday...any doomsday that comes before that is unfair

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You got it.

This is due to La Nina, and this page from Netweather explains it pretty well.

The Gulf stream hasn't stopped, although it does appear that a proportion of it is being diverted towards Africa.

Oh ya... forgot about La Nina..
www.bbc.co.uk...
C-C-C-combo breaker. Cool research imo.

Yeah! it's the damn BP oil-spill messing with the Gulf stream that has caused these freezing temperatures here in Europe!

I remember reading the conspiracy theories here on ATS on what could happen when all this oil and dispersants mixed together, and if that could alter the distinct chemistry, composition, density, temperature of the Gulf stream?

Silence from Eco groups?... Follow the money!

Without doubt at this point we are in the midst of what could be the greatest ecological catastrophe in history. The oil platform explosion took place almost within the current loop where the Gulf Stream originates. This has huge ecological and climatological consequences.

A cursory look at a map of the Gulf Stream shows that the oil is not just going to cover the beaches in the Gulf, it will spread to the Atlantic coasts up through North Carolina then on to the North Sea and Iceland. And beyond the damage to the beaches, sea life and water supplies, the Gulf stream has a very distinct chemistry, composition (marine organisms), density, temperature. What happens if the oil and the dispersants and all the toxic compounds they create actually change the nature of the Gulf Stream? No one can rule out potential changes including changes in the path of the Gulf Stream, and even small changes could have huge impacts. Europe, including England, is not an icy wasteland due to the warming from the Gulf Stream.

Yet there is a deafening silence from the very environmental organizations which ought to be at the barricades demanding that BP, the US Government and others act decisively.

www.marketoracle.co.uk...

Wouldn't that be a great conspiracy?

Imagine if all if this was planned by the pesky elit and American Big Oil to create much more demand for heating oil in Europe!

I mean, many European countries are now slowly shifting towards more renewable sources of energy away from the oil - which would certainly make the Big Oil billionaires very unhappy!

So what do they do? well, they figure out how to change this European Green agenda by creating this oil-spill and then add the exact right chemical formula in form of dispersants to manipulate the Gulfstream lol!

J/K

Originally posted by shauny
I think its bad news for Europe.
www.timesonline.co.uk...

Thats dated 2005.

Originally posted by igigi
C-C-C-combo breaker.

killer instinct! ;P

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In the end, we all die!

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WOW, from what i see here i live in NB, and the water is considerably warmer and right now we have no snow!!
i don't really know what this is all about but we have had huge storm surges and crazy rain and wind for the past 2 weeks. some flurries but mostly rain while the rest of Canada is pretty much covered in snow or has some. i live in moncton.
anyone can give me some information on this please thx!! im no expert but i think its the warmer gulf water heading into our waters, and the colder air coming across the rest of Canada and the arctic, and its all meeting here giving us these cold and warm rains and strong winds. but warm enough to keep the snow away! being after solstice the sun is going to start to get higher in the sky so are we going to get any sno this year?? since its going to start to get warmer slowly ( cause the earth is done turning away from the sun, now its going to be getting closer right??? plz let me know if im wrong).

Last year our river the restigouche located in northern NB campbellton. didn't even completely freeze over first time EVER!! campbellton is 176 years old. and this past week just flooded for the first time in 176 years. is this because of the gulf stream??? the pictures seem to show that.

chefspicy

Well according to John Moore a expert in this field the gulf stream has stopped here is what he said...


The Gulf Stream Has Stopped
By
John R. Moore
September 27, 2010

Ladies and Gentlemen,

This is the second most important event in the past 2,000 years. Please read on. I first published my concerns about the Gulf Stream being at risk of stopping in my 2005 paper "No Need For Panic". At that point in time I had been aware of the Gulf Stream being at risk of stopping for a couple of years. On November 27, 2005, the scientific community admitted that the Gulf Stream had lost thirty percent (30%) of its mass and velocity. The same press release stated that the computer models were estimating that the Gulf Stream would stop in 5 to 20 years, that is before 2025 – well within our lifetimes.

On June 12, 2010, the Gulf Stream stopped.

A bit of explanation is in order:

First, the Gulf Stream moves (used to move) warm water from the Caribbean Sea and Gulf of Mexico to the western side of Europe.

The Gulf Stream (so-named by Benjamin Franklin in the 18th century) has a number of other names: The North Atlantic Thermohaline Conveyor, The Loop Current, (Actually the Loop Current is the name of that portion of the Gulf Stream which makes a “loop” in the Gulf of Mexico. It was disrupted and lost its connection with the Gulf Stream after the BP spill and the Corexit, thus breaking the connection of the warm Gulf of Mexico water with the rest of the Gulf Stream. Matt Simmons may have been killed for revealing too much about the problems of the consequences of the BP oil spill and the shut down of the Loop Current,

The Conveyor, and others. This river of warm water moving through the colder North Atlantic Ocean begins in the Gulf of Mexico and the Caribbean. It is a continuous current moving around our planet, which does not really “begin” anywhere. It exists rounding the Southern tip of Africa, and crosses the South Atlantic, with some of it moving south of Cuba and into the Gulf of Mexico and another part moving up East of Florida and then, it moves up the Atlantic coast of Florida until it gets to Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and then it turned east across the Atlantic Ocean towards northern Europe.

Up until June 12, 2010, it continued east to the British Isles where it split with part going north to warm Iceland with the rest going south warming Scotland, Ireland, England, France, Spain and Portugal. Now it goes a couple of hundred miles east of Cape Hatteras, North Carolina, and stops! (Here’s the link to see the U.S. Navy map of the North Atlantic, which depicts water temperatures and placed a large yellow arrow pointing to the stopping point of the Gulf Stream : WWW.THELIBERTYMAN.COM/#GULF. This Sea Surface Temperature Map is updated daily by the U.S. Navy at website: www.fnmoc.navy.mil/public/ .)

Second, the Gulf Stream affects the atmosphere up to seven miles above the Gulf Stream. At that altitude, you are in the Jet Stream. The Jet Steam is the 200 miles per hour wind that has tremendous impact on weather in the Northern Hemisphere.

Let me explain how credible physicists have verified the importance of the Gulf Stream shutting down.

In the middle of July 2010, one of my research team forwarded an article by Dr. Gianluigi Zangari PhD. Dr. Zangari (who works with the prestigious Research Division of the National Institute of Nuclear Physics at Frascati National Laboratories of the National Institute of Nuclear Physics in Italy), is part of a team of scientists in Europe and North America that have been studying and monitoring the Gulf Stream for over nine years. I turned this information over to another member of my team, Dr. Bill Deagle M.D. (Bill’s website is WWW.NUTRIMEDICAL.COM) Dr. Deagle contacted Dr. Zangari. Over the next ten to fourteen days there were telephone conversations, E-mails, and we (Dr. Deagle, Ms. Ann Morrison [Ann's website is: WWW.HOMELAND- DEFENSE4U.COM] and I) even interviewed Dr. Zangari live on the Genesis Radio Network. I felt privileged to be part of that interview.

During the first few days of our discussion with Dr. Zangari, he was telling us that the Gulf Stream was at risk of stopping. He had new data coming in daily from his various sources:

ο Real time satellite data from Jason
ο TOPEX/Poseidon
ο Geosat Follow-On (GFO)
ο ERS-2
ο Envisat

These data were processed by the Colorado Center for Astrodynamics Research (CCAR) and further checked at the Frascati Laboratories by means of the SHT congruent calculus and compared with past years data. (Reference: [link to www.bibliotecapleyades.net] )

By the end of July, Dr. Zangari was convinced that the Gulf Stream had, on June 12, 2010, stopped. Shortly after telling us that, he cut-off any further communication with us. We can only speculate as to why. His paper is available as a PDF at [link to www.associazionegeofisica.it]

A quote from Dr. Zangari: "The Gulf Stream is the Pacemaker of the weather for the planet". A strong statement, to say the least!

You should be wondering, what are the implications of stopping the Gulf Stream.

Why is this the second most important story in 2,000 years? Because the most important story is that of Jesus Christ. The Gulf Stream stopping may mean the start of a new ice age. It will definitely mean abrupt climate change, especially harmful to the world's agriculture and dramatic increases and decreases in temperature and precipitation.

Possibly violent weather related events are more than a theory. I do not have direct access to the NASA Goddard Space Flight Institute, the main headquarters for the U.S. government monitoring these matters; however, one of my team members is connected. Through him (and other sources) we continue to seek more scientific details.

Here are the two critical questions regarding climate change:

1.) How soon will the stopped Gulf Stream affect agriculture?
2.) How bad will it be?

As to question #1: What I'm hearing at this point in time is as soon as 90-120 days to as long as 24 months. We are fairly certain that the adverse impact on growing grain will be severe. Russia has already stopped exporting grain because of drought affecting yields of grains. China is stockpiling commodities, such as soybeans, exchanging commodities for the U.S. debt instruments that have lost value over the past five years.

As to question #2: Grains are the basic food for 6.5 billion people and unknown millions of domestic animals. Wheat, corn, soybeans and rice constitute a huge percentage of food worldwide. These grains can tolerate only a certain range of high/low temperatures and high/low precipitation. Anything outside what they normally can tolerate reduces the harvest. Very extreme changes can wipe out the harvest completely. In addition, other crops and animal production will be adversely impacted. This translates into higher food prices for first world countries like the United States, Canada, and Western Europe. For third world countries, this becomes malnutrition and the opportunistic diseases that malnourished people succumb to.

In addition, we may see mass migrations (tens of millions) of people leaving England, Ireland and Scotland, if for no other reason than they do not bury their pipes deep enough! Other areas may see migrations as well. Areas that have had fairly mild winters could soon have the same brutal winters of Moscow.

My friend Tim Spencer runs www.ruralsurvival.info . He has posted three You Tube videos made by "The Earl of Stirling". While the quality of the video is poor, the audio and the information are excellent! I highly recommend watching them.

I continue to monitor this matter and get new updates. I will be discussing this matter on my radio show and with Dr. Deagle on his show as well.

So this is your heads up! This is your warning! It is beyond the scope of this article to get into any real details of how one would mitigate this matter to save themselves and their loved ones. Suffice it to say, one must be well above sea level (500' plus), away from large cities, have a few acres to grow food on, a private source for potable water and much, much more.

Preparation is a complex matter. I do private consultations for families and corporations. A full eight-hour consultation just hits the highlights. My radio shows (especially my Sunday show) discuss preparedness in detail.

Time is short and I'm just one man. If you want my consultation services please call me at 314-965-3007 8:00 A.M to 5:00 P.M. Central Time Zone, Monday through Friday.

Good luck and May God bless you all,
John Moore