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Originally posted by orangutang
this prophecy about orion by johan friede, an austrian monk of 750 years ago, may interest you. it concerns betelguese, which scientists now say has shrunk about 15% over recent decades.
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17. Johann Friede ~ According to a vision received by Johann Friede (1204-1257), an Austrian monk of the Order of St. John, several extraordinary phenomena will give warning that the present order of civilization is about to end: "When the great time will come, in which mankind will face its last, hard trial, it will be foreshadowed by striking changes in nature; the alteration between cold and heat will become more intensive, storms will have more catastrophic effects, earthquakes will destroy greater regions and the seas will overflow many lowlands. Not all of it will be the result of natural causes, but man will penetrate into the bowels of the earth and will reach into the clouds, gambling with its own existence. Before the powers of destruction will succeed in their design, the universe will be thrown into disorder, and the age of iron will plunge into nothingness. When the nights will be filled with more intensive cold and the day with heat, a new life will begin in nature. The heat means radiation from the earth, the cold the waning light of the sun. Only a few more years and you will become aware that sunlight has become perceptibly weaker. When even your artificial light will cease to give service, the great event of the firmament will be near. "The nebula of the Greater Bear will arrive in the vicinity of earth... and will fill the space of five hundred suns at the horizon. It will more and more cover up the light of the sun until the days will be like nights at full moon. The illumination will not come from the moon, but from Orion, which constellation, by the light of Jupiter, will send forth its rays on the Greater Bear and will dissolve its nebula with the force of light. "By this time mankind will be stricken with terror. Birds will be like reptiles and will not use their wings. Animals of the ground, in fear and alarm, will raise such a clamor that it will make human hearts tremble. Men will flee their abodes in order not to see the weird occurrence. Finally, complete darkness will set in and last for three days and three nights. "During this time, men, deprived of the power of light, will fall into a slumber-like sleep from which many will not awaken, especially those who have no spark of spiritual life. When the sun will again rise and emerge, earth will be covered with a blanket of ashes like snow in winter, except that the ashes will have the color of sulfur. Damp fog will ascend from the ground, illuminated by igneous gases. "Of mankind there will be more dead than there have been casualties in all wars. In the abodes of the children of light, the Book of Revelations will be read, and in the palaces of the Church they will await the arrival of the great comet. On the seventh day after the return of light, earth will have absorbed the ashes and formed such fertility as has not been experienced ever before. But Orion will cast its ray on the earth and show a path toward the last resting place of the greatest and most eminent man who had ever lived on the EARTH."
also the 3 egyptian pyramids are thought to be placed the same line as stars in orion.
Originally posted by rubyrudd123
this is my first post... all i wanna say is i like reading all posts no matter how fantastical just so i can add them all up and come up with what i think is right!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by Adept_Zero
Whose saying this is proof of anything??? In fact the only ones spewing out that word 'proof' are the ones claiming this is nothing but a glitch.
I never said we captured absolute proof of some covert space activity (although I do believe that is happening out there nonetheless)
We can keep this ping-pong debate going forever, but if what your side is saying (that this is definitely, not 'maybe', nothing but some sort of software anomaly) then....prove it! Any conviction needs to be backed up with proof.
While you're at it, I am particularly interested in the second software 'glitch" myself!
Originally posted by this_is_who_we_are
So this Google image and enlargement is not proof of M31?
Of course these images are proof. We know what these objects are.
We're also asking "What are these odd things we've found."
You would like to attribute everything that can't easily be dismissed as an "artifact" of the photographic process, dust on the lens and the like.
We'd be interested to know how you know, without a doubt that everything out there that can't be readily identified is in fact an artifact of the process.
The answer, in my opinion, is obvious. You don't have a definitive answer and are biased in some way going into the argument.
Get a grip.
The universe is a big place.
We don't have a monopoly on knowledge.
Do you?
Originally posted by orangutang
reply to post by Human_Alien
what came to mind when i read friede's remarks were the passages in the bible which speak of "the heavens being rolled up like a scroll"(new testament somewhere). imagine a flat page being rolled up. point A is some distance from point B before rolling. after rolling A is next door to B, even touching it. this should be easy for a holographic universe.
but i'm going to wonder if someone put something in my coffee. if i don't pass out. lol.
Originally posted by rubyrudd123
this is my first post... all i wanna say is i like reading all posts no matter how fantastical just so i can add them all up and come up with what i think is right!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by Human_Alien
Originally posted by rubyrudd123
And you're going about it perfectly.
Read, siphon, research and come up with what feels right to you.
Originally posted by micpsi
Just to throw a cat among the pigeons:
home.exetel.com.au...
To zoom in, click on the bright patch near the centre of the image (CTRL+click to zoom out). Then click on the brown area in the bottom south-east of the bright patch. Just above the top of this brown area, you will see a short black line. Click several times on it and you will see a dark, cylinder-shaped object with unnaturally straight edges. Part of it seems to be reflecting the light from the surrounding nebula as though it were metallic. It does not look to me like a dark gap in the surrounding bright clouds of hot gas.
A cigar-shaped starship?