Pedophilia Guide Author Arrested

Originally posted by SKinLaB
Dude, im speaking about morals man.

What's morally wrong with writing a book? If it's not writing a book that's morally wrong, what is he doing that's morally wrong?

Originally posted by dizzylizzy
Wonder how those of you who are defending this man would feel , if after reading this book a paedophile decided to have a relationship with a young member of your family.

What have pedophiles been reading in the past? Somehow arresting this man does nothing to help the members of my family that suffered sexual abuse as prepubescent children. Does it really make you feel better?

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


I admit you are correct in a lot of what you are saying. So are a lot of the others. And i also will admit i learned a bit about humility. I'm not tucking my tail and running. I am merely stating that subjects like this are very sensitive to some. I let my personal feelings on the matter speak for me. I still have my feelings and thoughts about it though.

I am also a man and i am not afraid to admit when i am wrong. Took me a bit to rationalize the reality of the subject at hand. Thanks for the reality slap.

reply to post by SKinLaB


Hey, I understand the absolute rage at anyone who would hurt a child like that. I'm right there with you on that. But we have to remember that this person is a citizen of the US and as such has certain rights. The same rights that I have. And if I start supporting his rights being taken away just because I strongly disagree with what he's saying, that means someone can come along and disagree with what I'm saying and infringe on my rights because of it...

It takes a big person to admit that they learned something. Props to you.

reply to post by tristar


Who are you asking the question to? If it is me.. Please repeat the question.

Originally posted by SKinLaB

Originally posted by bozzchem

Originally posted by SKinLaB
Regardless of whether or not it is freedom of speech, i think it is pretty deplorable.The lack of morals of the people who are defending this pig over the freedom of speech issue is sickening. I don't care about the legalities if he was allowed to or not. Yeah it's just a book. We are talking about a book that is a guide to pedophilia. Legal or not, some of you are over looking what it is about all because Awwwww, the poor guys rights have been violated. It amazes me of what some of you defend on this site.

How ironic that you would post this as the owner of a pit bull. I have had two pits which were wonderful dogs yet they are banned in many locales. They are just dogs, right?

In some instances they are an awesome family pet and in others are killers. Should they be banned? They have certainly been shown to have a proclivity for violence thanks to the media attention they get should one get out of line. Who knows? Maybe one of yours will "snap" and start killing.

Don't cast stones when you live in a glass house that is ripe for having stones cast at it by multiple means.

I'm not inferring that ownership of a pit bull is equivalent to ownership of the book but am merely pointing out that banning anything that has done nothing wrong is a slippery slope leading to banning ANYTHING that could be associated with POTENTIALLY doing wrong.

edit on 20-12-2010 by bozzchem because: (no reason given)

PitBulls are a WAY different topic my friend. Lets not go there. You are confusing a sick individual that wrote a sick book. Not a dog owners negligence of not knowing how to raise a dog. You are a victim of the media on all the PitBull hype. I know many many Pit owners that their dog has never shown a bit of aggression in their life.

Besides, im not speaking of the legalities like i said. Im speaking on morals of the issue. That is my opinion. You know what they say about opinions right?

Besides, the last time i checked, PitBulls were not the only breed of dog that has ever "killed". They certainly were not the only dog that was bred for fighting.

edit on 20-12-2010 by SKinLaB because: (no reason given)

That is your opinion and I welcome you to have it. Speaking of morality leaves out the law and without the law morality will soon collapse.

I have a German Shepherd. They too are known to be problematic. Attempting to keep me from having something that could be a potential problem is unacceptable.

My .45ACP is also problematic depending upon what I do with it once it's in my hands. Are you going to ban guns next? That same .45 will eradicate anyone wishing to encroach upon my child.

Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by Evanescence

 

How is it ludicrous to be held accountable for your actions and opinions?

This statement worries me...accountable for opinions? A persons opinion should be subject to the law? If someone rights something disagreeable and terribly so, I should harass him or her? Flesh that statement out or retract it. I get being held accountable for illegal actions, but this thread is quickly turning into a pro thought police party.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
What's morally wrong with writing a book?

That would depend on what was in the book. If you wrote a book with the intention of advocating child abuse, instructing people on how to skirt around the law, how to target, condition and molest children effectively and teach them how to lie to their parents, and include two graphic stories within it depicting child abuse for a break in the learning process and some light relief, I would say that was morally wrong in the extreme.

Originally posted by Sinnthia

Originally posted by dizzylizzy
Wonder how those of you who are defending this man would feel , if after reading this book a paedophile decided to have a relationship with a young member of your family.

What have pedophiles been reading in the past? Somehow arresting this man does nothing to help the members of my family that suffered sexual abuse as prepubescent children. Does it really make you feel better?

Nor those family members of mine who suffered sexual abuse. But this man was informing others how to be a 'good' paedophile.
If one man or woman was encouraged to act out their fantasy through this man and his book, it would be one too many.
I ask again what about a rapist manual?

Funny..
[or sad]...

I am all for free speech.

Yet, when I read the title of this thread..
I thought "good, sick bastard" .

reply to post by bozzchem


Dude, let it go man. I admitted i was wrong ok? Maybe read the posts instead of skip reading. I dont care what you do with your 45. Read before you spat off and put words in my mouth. I never said ban anything.

Originally posted by dizzylizzy
Nor those family members of mine who suffered sexual abuse. But this man was informing others how to be a 'good' paedophile.
If one man or woman was encouraged to act out their fantasy through this man and his book, it would be one too many.
I ask again what about a rapist manual?

Again I ask, what book has been encouraging pedophiles to act upon their desires before this book was printed? How about a rapist manual? From what I can tell, rape has been around quite some time now and I am not aware of any manual for that.

Originally posted by Ahmose
Funny..
[or sad]...

I am all for free speech.

Yet, when I read the title of this thread..
I thought "good, sick bastard" .

exactly - im ALL for free speech, so long as it agrees with me!

reply to post by SmokeandShadow


I mean we are all responsible for the opinions we hold. Are they based on fact, fiction, data to suit your needs? You can have what ever opinion you want but you have to face what others have to say, or what others will do. You can cuss some one out but they might do the same or worse back.

Double post

Welcome to the United Nazi States of America. You are free to write what we want you to, you are free to speak what we tell you to, you are free to have the opinions, and world-views, that we implant in your brains, you are free to be sheep, and your guards shall be wolves.

The land of the free....

Originally posted by tonypazzohome

Originally posted by Ahmose
Funny..
[or sad]...

I am all for free speech.

Yet, when I read the title of this thread..
I thought "good, sick bastard" .

exactly - im ALL for free speech, so long as it agrees with me!

Yeah, So be it.
The guy is a sick f*** who is a threat to everyones children.

Perhaps "free speech" needs to be "re-written.'

Sure,
you are free to say whatever you want.. (not really, we all know that)

but~ if what you say,
indicates that you will be harming innocent people in the future, or are presently ,or have in the past,
whatever....
ou should be stopped from being able to even make the attempt.

Even if the guy who wrote the book was not personally harming children..
any sick f*** who takes anything from that book and uses it, (you know they will)
The author is also at fault for.

So he IS harming children,
regardless of whether or not he ever touched a child.

So if this makes me a "hypocrite" or a "nazi"..
I'll take the stupid label over
"wanting free speech for everything, including teaching others how to abuse children"

Free speech? Fine

Free f*** for all , with all of your children?
Not fine.

After reading all these posts...
Id almost put money on some of you in this thread actually having bought the book . lol
Seriously.



Not only are there a lot of 'sheep" here (as soo many feel the need to call out everyday) lol
But there are also a lot of wolves......
wearing the sheeps coats.......

You know what's funny is this guy has committed no crime yet a pathetic percentage of you just can't wait to throw your rights away. What if this guy was a PsyOp? This is what the price of freedom is, you have to tolerate the expression of the things you do not like or the things you hate. Although seeing a lot of your reactions it's no wonder why Americans have basically become fat cows easily led to any political end because they're too stupid to see anything beyond their own comfort or desire.

After reading this thread.

I have to say, the state we are in as a nation, even backed up by people's knee-jerk emotions on ATS (of all places) just totally sucks.

I really don't know what to say aside from that, other than, no matter how awful something may seem, not chipping away at basic constitutional rights is more important than banning a so-called book. I guess some people just don't realize what kind of people pedophiles are. They don't get their lessons or urges from online bookstores for crying out loud. They are underground and usually isolated to themselves, and usually people you would least expect. This "e-book" does nothing, it doesn't tempt people into pedophilia or promote some sort of "child-sex is normal" idea. How absurd. The Disney corporation does plenty of that, so don't you worry folks.

This is why I find this all to be one big joke and set-up, it coincides with the wikileaks scandal, among other things. I find this to be an obvious ploy/ruse to erode our rights and make the sheep among us respond in unlearned emotions, to make it seem as if the country actually supports eroding away our rights when "someone is offended". Well, maybe they really do support it.

There were really no crimes committed with this, other than the crime of offending knee-jerk reactionaries. Call me callous all you like, but you know I'm right, and you all should know what's more important in this situation.

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Also, I think people need to start drawing the correlation between the Wikileaks Julian Assange sex scandal, and this "upsetting book". It is a classic psyop. Whenever a faction wants to exploit it's weary people, and founding principles, they will attack by lumping national security, sex, and children in one swing. Making everyone fearful, confused and emotional.

A broad, sweeping change to government dynamics and laws is soon to follow. You can count on that. You mean like new FCC & Net Neutrality limitations for everyone on the internet? Oh you betcha!!

So in the coming months (or weeks), when net neutrality and limited internet becomes popular, what do you think will be in the general population's recent memory? Does anyone see where I'm going with this?

First they came for the Pedophiles and I did not speak out because I was not a pedophile.

Then they came for the Beastiophiles and I did not speak out because I was not a Beastiophile.

Then they came for the Rapists and I did not speak out because I was not a Therapist! Hah!

Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me, because the murderers were too busy planning murders...