Ruger 10/22 for SHTF rifle?

reply to post by xxclaro


It wouldn't be cheap, but it's something I'd recommend picking up a little bit at a time. Like, if the SHTF and you *only* have a AR15 + eotech + vert grip, you'll still be in good shape

• AR15 Lower: $298
  
• AR15 Upper: $600
  
• Bolt Group: $249.99
  
• Charging handle: $35.99
  
• Eotech 512: $349
  
• Eotech 3x magnifier w/flip to side mount: $529
  
• Vert Grip: $12.95
  
• Magpul MIAD: $26.24

I'd rather have that than a shotgun + rifle because you'd have 1 weapon that's suitable for all roles. The eotech got you covered for CQB, the magnifier to extend your effective range, and the grips to hold spare components. A bipod might be worth throwing on there too just because. It's still less to carry compared to having different weapons for different roles, especially when you take into account that you'd only need to carry one type of ammo.

Not cheap, but it's what I'd want to have if the SHTF. You even have flip up ironsights and a bolt group that will operate without lube for the most dire of circumstances.

Everyone who has a stockpile of arms should have at least one of these beauties in it. the 10/22 is the most affordable arms you can purchase for many reasons.

Here is my little bit o respect:

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a grand total of $500 including optics.

reply to post by WJjeeper


You can't go wrong with the 10/22. It is a great small game rifle and subsonics do not make much noise if you need to be quiet. They have open sights in case the scope fails. Don't buy a rifle without open sights as backup for a broken scope. Stay quiet and avoid contact. Gunfights are dangerous and there is an element of dumb luck in their survival. Attracting attention is not good in your plan for the end of days because everyone else in the mountains will also have rifles. You can upgrade as you get the money or just wait for Armageddon and clip someone with your trusty Ruger for a free upgrade.The idea would be to be the clipper and not the clipee. Remember, there will be no trauma centers at that point and dead people will be food for the living after everyone else kills all the animals. Be sure to take a book on edible plant identification and some potatoes or manioc to plant. For the ruger, avoid aftermarket magazines. They are clumsy and are not reliable. Get a couple extra 10 round ruger mags for your pockets.
I find that the AR-7 survival rifle is also pretty handy and surprisingly accurate. When packed, it easily fits in a back pack. It takes less than 30 seconds to assemble, floats if dropped in water, and is reasonably maintenance free and lightweight. It will take a scope but then it can't be packed in its stock, so I don't bother. There are also some rifle-shotgun over-under combos that you might find useful as well as multiple barrels for a stock. These last are single shot but they are low cost and should be ok for what you want.

i appreciate all the replies, the AR-15 is pretty much out of question... WAY to much money. like said in original post, i want something easy on the wallet all around. the most i can justify spending on another gun right now is about $300.

luckily i know some areas where i shouldnt ever have to use a gun for self-defense when SHTF. i just need to be able to get food. the .22 is great for smaller game (rabbits, squirrels and other small critters), and i would have my 12ga for larger birds, big game, and two legged critters.

10/22 is a great rifle you cant go wrong with it as most others have said. Myself, i have a Mossberg Maverick 12 guage pump, 18" barrel, folding pistol grip stock with flashlight. This is my home protection-though with slugs i can reach out and touch someone to 100 yards if need be.

For my rifle, i have a Savage HMR .17 with thumb hole stock. I can shoot nickle sized groups out to 200 yards with no sweat. If you are looking for something a little different than a 22LR chgeck out the .17 magnum with the polymer tipped ammo.

Here is my ruger 10/22 that i bought to teach my son how to shoot. Its a pretty nice little shooter.



For a bugout gun its great because you can easily carry 500 rounds and not overweigh your bag. Will supply lots of meat for a couple years with just that loadout.

I will add a gripe here about the 10/22:

My experience has been that the triggers on out-of-the-box rifles are pretty terrible.

They tend to be scratchy, heavy and need to be modified in some way.

The cool thing about this issue is that you can get aftermarket trigger assemblies that just drop in with little or no effort.

Thoughts?

If you are in a state where firearms are legal to own, your collection (or arsenal) is not complete without a 10/22. .22LR are incredibly cheap and light. Plus virtually no recoil means you can hit a man-sized target with 5 shots at 100 yards in under 6 seconds. That would be enough to put someone down. Maybe not dead, but if you wound them you've taken out their buddies as they drag him away to safety.

/TOA

Well everyone, i took the dive and think i got a really good deal. $225 out the door, $189 + DROS fees. had an old Butler Creek magazine new in the bag laying around in my garage, anyone had any experience with Butler Creek 25 rd mags?

Originally posted by WJjeeper
Well everyone, i took the dive and think i got a really good deal. $225 out the door, $189 + DROS fees. had an old Butler Creek magazine new in the bag laying around in my garage, anyone had any experience with Butler Creek 25 rd mags?

They make the best 10/22 mags. Just make sure you buy the ones with the steel feed lips. They last forever.

Originally posted by WJjeeper
Well everyone, i took the dive and think i got a really good deal. $225 out the door, $189 + DROS fees. had an old Butler Creek magazine new in the bag laying around in my garage, anyone had any experience with Butler Creek 25 rd mags?

If you are really into the .22 LR, I'd recommend getting a brick or two of Remington "Vipers" or Yellowjackets". They are hypervelocity .22 rounds that really hit hard while being extremely accurate and consistent.

all im able to find is the Hot Lips, i picked one up just for the hell of it. $19.99.... are the hot lips a lot wose than the steel lips.

Originally posted by MMPI2

Originally posted by WJjeeper
Well everyone, i took the dive and think i got a really good deal. $225 out the door, $189 + DROS fees. had an old Butler Creek magazine new in the bag laying around in my garage, anyone had any experience with Butler Creek 25 rd mags?

If you are really into the .22 LR, I'd recommend getting a brick or two of Remington "Vipers" or Yellowjackets". They are hypervelocity .22 rounds that really hit hard while being extremely accurate and consistent.

Thats one of the nice things about a .22, ammo varies alot and has different uses. Also, most .22's are individuals when it comes to ammo preferences, what shoots good in one will not necessarily shoot well in another. Try a bunch of different stuff,it's cheap enough to buy a dozen small boxes and see what shoots.
As far as increasing power, the CCI Velocitor is the best I have found so far. It shoots almost as well(in my gun) as most standard velocity stuff,and definitely adds a level of power. I killed a coyote at over 50yds with a single neck shot,breaking the spine,with a Velocitor. I moved up to 25yds and shot it 2 more times in the same area using Winchester Dynapoints(the most accurate ammo in my gun). I then dissected the neck and found the dynapoints had only penetrated a couple inches, stopping short of even hitting the spine. The Velocitor had broken the spine and stopped after doing so. Quite a difference.
Also, I have found a very useful tool for all .22 shooters. It is called the Accu'rizer and is made by a fellow named Paco Kelly. He runs a website called Levergunscommunity.com and you can contact him there. It is a brass die into which you insert a .22 round, You then inset a small rod in the other end and tap it with a hammer. Depending which rod you use(there are several available) you can either produce a nice deep hollowpoint,a dished flat point or several others. It also helps with accuracy as it swages the bullet perfectly round and to the proper diametre(one end is .223,the other .224) which helps in certain guns with tight chambers. If you shoot a lot of .22 and use it for hunting/defence, it's a useful tool to have.

Rember people that just because alot of people here say its so doesnt mean its so. First things first, please remember safty first. Take a nra safety course before you get a fire-arm.contact the NRA or local dnr for schedules With this said, no matter what you shoot, practice is key, practice, practice practice. If you have a gun you cant handle it will not help you much1

1-join a gun club or go to a gun range and ask the people there- their advise, you will get plenty of education there and make solid friends. People there will usually let you try their guns out, out of the generosity of the culture they practice. I cant stress this more than enough. GO - JOIN-

2- A 22 is a very geat gun for its purpose-small game. plinking and beginers. I have shot deer on the farm 3 times as a kid but i also lost deer i shot. loosing 1 is even too much. AS far as personal defence goes, its not recomended since it it so underpowerd. It can and has a reputation of glancing off a mans skull unless hit head on. In personal defence killing is number 1, so a bigger gun is required. You want to take the threat away with 1 shot, not multiple shots.

3- There is no real SHTF gun. Guns are tools that have unique properties for the kind and calibers they are built for. Shot-guns are for small game and game birds, not a personal defence weapon unless you keep it in the bed room by you bed for intruders. A good revolver in 357 or 44 is more practical since it will be more easly drawn and fired from the night stand. A shot gun is too clumsy for this purpose. A rifle would be out of the question for a house gun since if you miss---the bullet can, and usually will travel through walls . You are responsible and liable for your shot. Do you want it to enter your childs bed room if you missed?? Do you want it exiting the house and into the neighbors house?? Safety first, Lots of thought needed. Now a rifle is ment for 1 thing, longer range killing of man or beast. Your bullet can travel MILES and rifles are fine tuned to what they were built for . MILITARY- RECREATION- HUNTING

4- SHTF--what does that mean anyway?? Its to vague, Too many variables, almost as many as there is gun types. To a country boy like me i need multuple weapons for different reasons. I have my hunting guns and i have my personal defence guns. All are interchangable for either scenario, just some are more practicle.

My advise to all is to join a gun range and start educating yourself since it takes lots of time to become profecient with a weapon. Years of practice. NO EASY WAY OR ADVISE!!! Its your responsibility and it is a very serious decision to own a weapon. If you read up on FBI shoot outs, you would crap your pants at the real statistics of human to human shoot outs. Even the pro's and hardened criminals cant shoot when the real deal comes along. Safety first. practice and education and you are part of the gun culture.

WJjeeper,

As I've said in another topic, go to another state and buy your weapon. Get something chambered in 5.56 or 7.62 NATO. That way you'll get ammo off "their" dead bodies. Something like an AR-15 or even better a FN Herstal SCAR. Also as a backup weapon get a 9x19 Beretta or Glock, if you can afford it. If you need something cheaper, go for a Hi-Point.

If you're interested in firing a 10/22 a little bit faster, check out these attachments:

www.rapidfiretriggers.com...

Some of the videos on youtube are pretty cool.

This is a fun website also, if you're into burning up a lot of ammo really fast.

www.poormansmachinegun.com...

Be safe and have fun!

thanks for the comments guys, i do have to ask agin though, are the Hot Lips a lot worse than the Steel Lipped magazines... from Butler Creek.

Originally posted by WJjeeper
thanks for the comments guys, i do have to ask agin though, are the Hot Lips a lot worse than the Steel Lipped magazines... from Butler Creek.

They are still great but the steel are awesome. I have several of both and they all work better then the factory mags.

The Ruger 10/22 is nice cheap gun. Mine seem to jam, more then I like.
Could have been the ammo. I since have bought a Remington 541T
light barrel, bolt action. I put a Nikon pro staff scope on it. The trigger pull
is beautiful, and the gun is well balanced. I love this Gun, The BEST gun
I have ever owned.

I have two hotlips mags for my 10/22 and they both suck!!! 22s not gonna be so awesome for self defense anyways in a SHTF scenario but a ruger with one of those mags...well you might as well throw the bullets at them.
They never feed right and constantly jam the rifle up. We could only get through 1-2 rounds before another jam. Was incredibly frustrating.
Both of em worked for about a day of plinking, gradually sucking more and more until finally becoming useless. So don't waste your money!