Strategy on dealing with North Korea

Assume NKOR goes rogue further than it already has, and begins open war on South Korea. What is the best response assuming China will not be involved? Personally, I believe a limited nuclear response would be the best. A single MIRV delivered from SLBM like the Trident II (12 warheads, each independently targetable, circular error probable under 100m, W88 warhead with an estimated 475Kt yield, Ohio-class missile boat carries up to 24 Trident II missiles for a combined maximum yield of 137Mt) could theoretically neutralize DPRK command structure as well as nuclear facilities in one blow. Have the Marines sweep in afterwards for mop-up. Of course, it would be necessary to notify China and Russia of this plan, and have the force of will to actually execute it.

I think the best response is to immediately and swiftly shut the war down. I'm not usually for interventionist style handling of situations, but North and South Korea are chomping at the bit to blow each other to straight to oblivion. I'm more concerned about them using nukes than anything, and I think that both sides of this equation are to the point in their anger and hate for one another that it's not out of the question. When nukes are involved, it's everybody on planet Earth's business.

An alternate non-nuclear option would also be effective (but would force the US to swallow its pride): ask the Russians to come in as ringers. Russian artillery is famous, and their airstrike capability can almost outdo the USAF. Park the big guns along the Tuman, get the Blackjacks in the skies above Pyongyang, and the battle is half-won. Couple this with VDV, Vityaz MVD, and Spetsnaz Alfa, Vympel and GRU units (all combat-hardened in Chechnya), and some armoured support, and the war is done in a matter of weeks.

From News Story:
"Inside America’s (Mock) Attack on North Korea"

"Two years earlier, the Pentagon put together a very different kind of war plan for North Korea — one that didn’t involve ground troops at all. Instead, U.S. forces would lob bombs and missiles and electronic attacks in an instant “global strike.” Even nuclear weapons were considered, as part of the plan."

Story: www.wired.com...

I tend to agree that they are both ready to kick off a war and force a final settlement to the 1953 Armistice.
However, with the North saying they will make it nuclear and nuclear outside the Korean Peninsula, it leaves little doubt to the final outcome. I gave thought to how they would extend it outside the Korean Peninsula and there is a possibility they put a nuke inside a container ship or even a fishing vessel some time ago and it is already out to sea. They could sail it just about anywhere and detonate it. I guess it would depend on just how dedicated to ending their life the ships crew would be if they would set it off or not. Otherwise, I don't think they have developed a small enough warhead to put on a missile yet. I could be wrong, but that usually takes a while to develop a small enough one. If they did go nuclear, the Pentagon would probably kick off one of the previous nuclear plans to end it quickly with tactical nukes along the North of the DMZ wiping out a majority of the Norths troops and artillery, and then mop up the rest of the countries military and political sites with B2's from Diego Garcia and some AIM-129 Nuclear Cruise missles. I read somewhere a long time ago when they were acting out that we had foward deployed nukes to Diego Garcia just in case. But surely we have 3 or 4 Tridents in the West Pacific that could put an end to it real quick. Let's hope they are smarter than trying to go nuclear.

Here is the story about how the Nuclear Plan has developed. It is 3 pages, but explains the US Plans for nuclear striles on countries including N. Korea, Iran, etc. It's pretty interesting. Worth a read.
www.washingtonpost.com...

Apologize for being rude to the aliens, and ask them nicely to shut down NK's warheads.

S+F

Originally posted by spirit_horse
From News Story:
"Inside America’s (Mock) Attack on North Korea"

"Two years earlier, the Pentagon put together a very different kind of war plan for North Korea — one that didn’t involve ground troops at all. Instead, U.S. forces would lob bombs and missiles and electronic attacks in an instant “global strike.” Even nuclear weapons were considered, as part of the plan."

Yes... But that was under Donald Rumsfeld advisory. Article 2005

reply to post by ShadeWolf


I fail to see the point in killing the general population that are starving, and completely ignorant of anything that has happened in the outside world since the 40's

Dropping food parcels and Nike trainers wrapped in American flags with some free radios tuned to pick up some good old fashioned propaganda and shooting Kim Jong Ill and family in the head might work a little better

Who really cares and why is america involved? bottom line.

Russia has requested an emergency UN Security Council meeting Sunday. Here is the story:
www.foxnews.com...

reply to post by CanadianDream420


Yes, but just a few days ago the US and South Korea signed a TOF agreement that brings the South under the protection of the US nuclear umbrella. I will try and find the story for you.

Here is the ATS thread on that:
www.abovetopsecret.com...

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well any type of war conventional or nuclear is not a good strategy, it is thru war where positions change, power changes hands and the most unpredictable things occur, hell just study ww2 for cripes sakes. I believe that would be a bad strategy, because once the refugee's start flowing into China, china, will not be to happy. etc. etc. etc. I just hope they can wait til the spring or summer to goto war or do whatever killing they wish for..

Actually it is unnecessary to worry about there will be a war , i still think that the N.K. can't afford a war and they don't want a real war.

Hopefully a war doesnt start,it hasnt started yet. And one may not. Remember,each war calls for brave people to fight it,there are only a limited amount of people willing to fight. Hitler spread his armys thin and was taken down easily.

Our SNAP-10a satellite with a nuclear reactor went full-melt down and is currently parked in orbit 4,000 miles above Earth.

Attach the X-37b to it and send it into North Korea.


The news reports would say some space asteroid crashed in North Korea and the radiation killed them all off.

Would solve our current problem of that nuclear reactor in space bleeding radiation around the planet....and North Korea...killing 2 birds with 1 stone.

Also...Plausible denial. No one would be the wiser.

Originally posted by whipsandchainsamerica
Hopefully a war doesnt start,it hasnt started yet. And one may not. Remember,each war calls for brave people to fight it,there are only a limited amount of people willing to fight. Hitler spread his armys thin and was taken down easily.

It was nothing but EASY to take down Hitler.......

I've reviewed my ideas, and I'm going to say nuclear is not a good option here. Any weapon large enough to decapitate DPRK leadership would (depending on yield, wind direction and location of attack) at best irradiate the entire Korean peninsula, spread fallout into the PRC's northern provinces, or blanket southeastern Russia in radioactive dust. Therefore, a far better choice may be the use of the B-2 Spirit stealth bomber and B-1B Lancer penetration bomber equipped with GPS-guided JDAM and JSOW munitions, along with cruise missiles. In essence, a "Shock And Awe" attack similar to that of Desert Storm. Begin with high-altitude B-2 strikes to key targets, such as airfields (using the BLU-107 Durandal) nuclear facilities (likely hardened targets, heavy ordinance required, likely GBU/BLU-109 Paveway III or GBU/BLU-116 Advanced Unitary Penetrator), and any form of "leadership bunker" similar to the American Raven Rock and Cheyenne Mountain facilities (again, likely hardened requiring use of GBU-28 or possibly the Massive Ordinance Penetrator depending on its status). Follow these crippling strikes with waves of propaganda drops, and a rapid-response task force unit crossing the DMZ, and the war is essentially won.