John Lear says "Aliens Are Eating Us !"

reply to post by antar


Certain types? If and only IF there is truth to the story aliens given permission to abduct humans....

by who's permission and what right do they have to give this permission? Obviously no man, woman or child would agree to alien experimentations of any kind. IF and again I say IF our world powers are allowing this to go on then we have a very big problem! If aliens want DNA, then go ask families of dead people.

I strongly doubt this would ever be revealed by our powers because those in charge would be hunted down like dogs with rabies.

reply to post by bluemirage5


There are many levels to the deception. Some people, including john lear, say that grey aliens where given permission to abduct a limited amount of people starting back in the 50s-60s(not sure exactly when) in exchange for advanced technology. This technology is hundreds, if not thousands of years, more advanced than any human technology humans have ever managed to develop. Most of it is probably stored in dumbs in the southwestern usa. Greys come from zeta reticullia, which is in the orion constellation, about 30-40 light years away.

But then we have reptillian "alliens", technically *ultra-terrestrials* who have been on earth for many, many thousands of years and who allegedly originated from the draco constellation. Alpha Draconis used to be the north star, pointing always at true north, but now it has swapped positions with Polaris due to precession of the equinoxes and motion of the stars themselves. What is weird though is that god is said to reside in the north and north coincides to reside with alpha draconis which is the "birth-place" of these negative aliens. I don't know, maybe it truely is just a coincidence, but it said also that in any masonic lodge "the creator" always faces the north wall.

According to richard hoageland, nasa has always used an orion constellation mission patch on all its missions which is strange in itself. Going back to ancient egypt and the pyramids we would see the pyramids alligned with the orion constellation and most mystery schools have a huge focus on orion and draconis. Today the rites of memphis and misram are thought to be exclusive lodges with membership fees ranging in the thousands of dollars and most blue lodges have no official affiliation with them. Why do they "snob" the rites of memphis and misram on one hand, yet they are thought to be ELITE SCHOOLS of thought on the other-hand? Sort of reminds me of the Book of Enoch and how the jews/christians/muslims refuse to accept it BUT mystic priests unofficially put big emphasis on it. Also did you know of the TERRA PAPERS that religion calls "blashphemy" but does a tremendously better job of explaining earth's hidden history than traditional mainstream religion that seeks to divide&conquer through confusion?

My friends we all have a lot to learn. Going back to allowing abductions to occur in exchange for technology, would the grey alliens not abduct people just the same even if no agreement had been reached? I am mean they ARE SUPERIOR to humans in most regards so what would stop them from abducting&killing more people if they wanted to? You think they would respect our leaders, who may or may not, have our best interests in mind? I don't know the truth to that question but it seems just killing people is not their ultimate objective. The greys want dna genes and the reptillians want human serivitude. Dead people are a waste where as slaves are not!

reply to post by EarthCitizen07



Being gullible is OK, I suppose....but futher research is always a good idea, to get ALL sides, and not fall just for the most science-fictiony version. This leads to unnecessary complication and angst. Good scary bedtime stories, though.....so there's that positive aspect.

But, a lot of good learning from sources (not just Wiki, though it was handy here, to be brief) can be had....and you benefit from the hard work and lifetimes of devotion given the topics by others, before you.

Alpha Draconis used to be the north star, pointing always at true north, but now it has swapped positions with Polaris due to precession of the equinoxes and motion of the stars themselves...

You have the concept of precession stated correctly, and that's good. However, it's wild stretch to claim any significant change of position in the sky of the very, very distant stars is discernible....because, certainly not by the naked eye. Any changes in relative position happen over extremely long spans of time, far longer than Humans have even existed in their present form.

Now, precession.....during the course of the approximately 26,000-year cycle of pole precession, several stars tend to "occupy" a position where the physical axis of the Earth can be imagined to extend....and thus, show no "translation" across the sky as the planet rotates.

Your "Alpha Draconis" as pole star? Well....in about 3,000 BCE a star in what we now call the "Draco" constellation of stars fits that bill....

In 3000 BC the faint star Thuban in the constellation Draco was the North Star. At magnitude 3.67 (fourth magnitude) it is only one-fifth as bright as Polaris, and today it is invisible in light-polluted urban skies.

Turns out, "Thurban" does get called "Alpha Draconis" too. You should read about its characteristics, though, in the link in its name, above. Anyhow, it was about 5,000 years ago for that situation, of Thuban/A. Draconis in the pole position....much of Human history and tradition, originally orally handed down, then written for posterity eventually, stems from around then. And, in Sumeria....they are mentioned frequently. Usually, alas, by the hoaxer Sitchin, and his creative mistranslations. So, I think this may be the ultimate "source" for much of the legend, and hence your "beliefs".

Wiki also talks about "A. Draconis" in fiction:

Alpha Draconis (Thuban)

Futurama, episode: 'That Darn Katz!' The domestic house-cat is revealed to be from the 9th planet orbiting the star Thuban. Their planet having stopped rotating in the year 3,500 B.C. they travel to Earth to harness its rotational energy. However in the process, the "Space Cats" encounter the people of Ancient Egypt who worship them as gods, and as a result become complacent and domesticated; forgetting their original mission until the events of the aforementioned episode.

Alpha Draconis is a star system that can be explored in the Mass Effect 2 video game.

BTW....the conventional "names" of constellations vary greatly, depending on the culture in question. The same patterns of stars that are named "Draco" by some peoples of the World, will appear to be a different "animal" or shape, to others. For instance:

The Arabs did not interpret the constellation as a dragon, seeing instead an asterism called the Mother Camels.

It was the Greeks who thought it resembled a "dragon". You should read more about the other stars that form the constellation, and the ancient myths and legends that have grown up around it: en.wikipedia.org...(constellation)


Interestingly, the Chinese (a very, very ancient and long-established civilization) also considered the grouping of stars to resemble a "reptile", it seems. I see some mention to the "Black Tortoise of the North".

However, Chinese "constellation" pattern interpretation is far more complicated. As I said, it's important to consider ALL Human cultures, when trying to look at the past, and separate the myths from the "realities".

In Chinese astronomy, constellation Draco were divided in two areas. The areas are:

Purple Forbidden enclosure (紫微垣, Zǐ Wēi Yuán)
The Black Tortoise of the North (北方玄武, Běi Fāng Xuán Wǔ)

reply to post by weedwhacker


What if mythology is reality? You know the saying sometimes "the truth can be stranger than fiction"....

Anyway you made a good post with lots of valuable information. I just want to point out that *the dragon myths* are universal in nature for the most part. I got interested in ufology and alternative history by watching lots of sci-fi movies(star trek, star wars, battlestar gallactica, X-fles) and playing first person shooters(doom, quake, half-life, street fighter, mortal combat).

Yes I am a computer NERD and I love it!!!!

A real skeptic would find out if the Earth was actually flat or not - himself. I like how people base "what we know" off of assumptions, and then when something isn't considered "self-evident" by everyone around them - they then put up these walls. Science is constantly being re-written, we need to look at this from an approach not jaded by hoaxes and disinformation.

I don't agree with a lot of what John Lear and Hoagland suggest, but they are more knowledgeable than I am on many subjects that I'm interested in. So instead of disowning everything they say, based on the fact that not everything they say is true, I try to "take it in stride" and compare and contrast to other things that I've learned.

John Lear does not know if they are eating us. He suggests this as a fact based on assumptions he has made. Disowning him for making possibly foolish claims will deafen your ability to maybe learn something you didn't previously know.

Humans are all like sponges. We soak in information, we digest as much as we can, and then we excrete it into the eyes of unlucky people just trying to do the dishes.

In two sentences or less....can anyone here tell me how this thread reached over twenty pages?

reply to post by EarthCitizen07


You know, in regards to John Lear, he states in his own words that his writings are based only upon theory and facts. It's differcult to grow through all the rubble to find what is truth and what is not but most certainly he throws some pretty good ideas out there and gives us a lot to think about.

Thanks for your response too.

reply to post by IgnoreTheFacts

....can anyone here tell me how this thread reached over twenty pages...

You asked for an answer in two sentences....I'll do it in two words:

cognitive disconnect

it might be that People like to talk and talk about nonsense

Originally posted by Unknown Soldier
This is one of the more believable claims of his, funny as it sounds there are many children un accounted for gone missing over the years. I looked at a new york state stat on missing children one year and it was staggering, i just do not see how so many kids can just vanish dead or alive. Going to third world countries, south American countries does not fit in the equation. So then the question comes up, this does haunt me and really i do not doubt this in some way.

Oh please. So just because a couple thousand kids ''vanish'' each year they are taken by aliens? I think there's something seriously wrong with the way you think. These claims are always so hilariously ridiculous and it's only getting worse it seems. Aliens are eating us? What the christ? What kind of schizophrenic comes up with this haha.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
In two sentences or less....can anyone here tell me how this thread reached over twenty pages?

Ignorantly jumping to the LEAST possible conclusion in an effort to bolster ones belief system or in an effort to make themselves popular among the believers is what has made the UFO subject the laughable joke that it is. Failure to understand that simple fact is what will keep this subject relegated to the dark corners of the internet, where if the average Joe (with even the use of half his brain) stopped by, he would run away and never come back, further setting this subject back yet ANOTHER generation....

reply to post by zorgon


You didn't happen to see the Onion News Network logo in the corner, did you?

reply to post by Exuberant1


What's the image or frame reference for that photograph?

Seems like you should post the photo reference so I can get the high-bit TIFF files. Thanks a lot.

reply to post by GetSomeBringItOn


I know people who travel hundreds of miles in order to secure wild game, by hunting it themselves. I enjoy wild game but do not go that far out of my way to hunt.

My point is that, maybe they want to eat people regardless of the need to because it tickles their gourmet fancy.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
In two sentences or less....can anyone here tell me how this thread reached over twenty pages?

1) Because this "field" is in a feedback loop of continuous marginalization of itself.

2) Hello? Trickster abstract in full gear..

That's like that Twighlight Zone episode. Aliens land, they have strange looking written language, they seem friendly, take people to a resort on their planet. Skeptic steals one of their books. Cyphers the title "How to serve man" the skeptic thinks well they have doubled the earth's food production, maybe these aliens are OK after all, skeptic now goes to their planet to one of the Alien resorts....as he is going up the steps to the flying saucer, skeptics co-worker runs up and starts yelling " we decoded the rest of the book..How to serve Man...it's a cookbook" The skeptic tries to turn a round but the aliens grab him an pull him up into the saucer.

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
In two sentences or less....can anyone here tell me how this thread reached over twenty pages?

1st sentence: If it's silly it'll survive.
2nd sentence: see 1st sentence.

I'm not sure the evidence he stated behind this. My wonder is why do they mutilate the animals? are they threatening us? Kind of like,"i can do that to the animal,what willl i do to you."

Originally posted by NightVision

Originally posted by IgnoreTheFacts
In two sentences or less....can anyone here tell me how this thread reached over twenty pages?

Ignorantly jumping to the LEAST possible conclusion in an effort to bolster ones belief system or in an effort to make themselves popular among the believers is what has made the UFO subject the laughable joke that it is. Failure to understand that simple fact is what will keep this subject relegated to the dark corners of the internet, where if the average Joe (with even the use of half his brain) stopped by, he would run away and never come back, further setting this subject back yet ANOTHER generation....

All one has to do is look at ufo&alien videos on youtube or to our so-called shapeshifting reptillian-human politicians/journalists. 95%, if not 99.999999% of the total videos, are absolute trash but maybe this is a good thing since no one can handle the truth. I have had many sleepless nights in the past pondering "what if this or what if that" and while its exciting to a degree it can also be outright terrifying.

Hi

Lear is not the only UFO researcher to have talked about disappearing children, and what they were used for.

Take a look at the book: "Montauk Project: The Alien Connection" by Stewart Swerdlow. Sky Books. New York. 1998.

My co-blogger, wrote a detailed post about the book's contents at

ufos-scientificresearch.blogspot.com...

Please take a look.