Annomylous line criss cross the Moon (Power Lines)?

While surfing through Google Earth/ Moon, I noticed these lines that crisscross over the surface. They do not go in exactly straight lines but tend to meander slightly but generally follow in the same direction.

What could they be? Power transfer lines? Antenna lines?

In some of the examples there appears to be "hairs" in the view, but they seem to be more like what you would expect a rubber hose to do when it has been stretched and released. Could they be part of these lines that has been replaced during a repair?














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At any rate it is obvious that these lines are not the seam lines of some sectional photographs. In some places where the lines cross over a berm of a crater, you can see where the line has disturbed the rim.

Anyone have any ideas as to what they could be?

I am not sure what "annomylous" is?


Are you referring to Anonymous?


If so, yes they are quite strange. But I am sure there is a reason!

Originally posted by TheManipulator
I am not sure what "annomylous" is?


Are you referring to Anonymous?


If so, yes they are quite strange. But I am sure there is a reason!

Trying to depict "Anomalous". God I hate the English language, grrrrrrrrrrr My spell checker wife insisted on two "N"s.

I believe the word is Anomalous.

Yes, this is strange. I have not seen this before.
They seem a bit heavy to be power lines.
Perhaps Pipe lines and or roads.
Or maybe just Markers for aircraft.

reply to post by All Seeing Eye


Firstly....it's Google Earth!!! (Moon)

Secondly....it's Google Earth!!! (Moon)

You see nothing but flaws in their image "stitching" program.

You cannot use Google Earth (Moon...or Mars) and expect to make any serious "study" out of it.......

reply to post by weedwhacker


I second that.

One of those pics looks like a hair on the lens and stitching lines are common on most large planetary terrain photos.

Originally posted by All Seeing Eye

At any rate it is obvious that these lines are not the seam lines of some sectional photographs.

In some places where the lines cross over a berm of a crater, you can see where the line has disturbed the rim.

Anyone have any ideas as to what they could be?

That squiggly thing is the only one where it's not obviously a seam. What in the world makes you think the rest aren't seams? That's exactly what they look like!

See if you can find the original photos with these seams in them.

There are some tracks on the moon, from boulders rolling around, but these are exactly what you said it's obvious they're not, seam lines. You can prove it by looking at the original source images that Google moon used, and to do that you have to look at images from sources other than Google moon.

You can prove it by looking at the original source images that Google moon used, and to do that you have to look at images from sources other than Google moon.

Yeah, from the NASA images where they airbrush everything out.

Right?

Of course youre not gonna find these miles long, straight lines on NASA images. Don''t insult us.

Originally posted by BrnBdry
Of course youre not gonna find these miles long, straight lines on NASA images. Don''t insult us.

What do you think Google moon is using for the source?

If the lines are on Google moon, and not on the NASA images, then that means Google moon added them, right? Can you even find any sections of them on the NASA images?

If you think NASA airbrushed everything then why are they showing up in Google Moon?

Please think before you write, I don't think you're thinking this through.

reply to post by All Seeing Eye


I have to agree with weedwhacker. I think it's just the affect of pics being joined together or whatever.

However, I do remember a couple of times that I DID see such a shadow across the moon. Actually, the shadow was more across the sky and just happened to cross the moon. Looked like the shadow of a huge pipe. It wasn't clouds... just a dark line in the sky. The moon was full so it was easy to see it. I have no clue what it was, but don't think that's what we have here.

Originally posted by Arbitrageur



What in the world makes you think the rest aren't seams? That's exactly what they look like!
See if you can find the original photos with these seams in them.

Seam lines? Looks more like the layout of the Lunar Indy 500

And how come you guys that keep claiming that these are not in the original photos... never PROVE THAT BY LINKING TO THE ORIGINAL PHOTOS

oopsy cap lock on
You just make a claim but feel ya don't need to back it up... I cry foul because the one making the claim is required to back it up... the claim being that these are NOT in the original photos

So put up or....

Originally posted by BrnBdry

Yeah, from the NASA images where they airbrush everything out.

Right?

Of course youre not gonna find these miles long, straight lines on NASA images. Don''t insult us.

Well where do you think these images came from?

In case you dont know I'll tell you.
The Clementie mission launched in 1994. That was a NASA invloved mission.

reply to post by zorgon


500 miles in the Moon? I hope Sir Richard Charles Nicholas Branson speed up the project virgen.I'm a fan of Indy racing.

This is gold.

If they are "stitch" lines, you would think they would be more prevalent throughout google moon!

nice pics

be good

Originally posted by weedwhacker
reply to post by All Seeing Eye

 

Firstly....it's Google Earth!!! (Moon)

Secondly....it's Google Earth!!! (Moon)

You see nothing but flaws in their image "stitching" program.

You cannot use Google Earth (Moon...or Mars) and expect to make any serious "study" out of it.......

Not so sure... Not so sure...

Google Earth, Moon, Mars are good enough to detect anomalies.

And if may ask you, which kind of program images or database we must inspect to?

Originally posted by Arken
And if may ask you, which kind of program images or database we must inspect to?

edit on 18-12-2010 by Arken because: (no reason given)

You can get a mosaic of the clementine images but they explain that the gaps in the 750 nm filter coverage were filled in by the 900 nm filter:

nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...

The basemap mosaic is a radiometrically and geometrically controlled, photometrically modeled global mosaicked Lunar Digital Image Model (LDIM) in sinusoidal equal-area projection. It was compiled using more than 43,000 images from the 750 nanometer filter observations from the Ultraviolet/Visible camera onboard the Clementine Spacecraft. (The 900 nanometer filter was used to fill gaps where there was missing 750 coverage.)

So this kind of piecing together in a mosaic will have artifacts as a result of filling in the gaps.

To avoid artifacts you have to go to something like the raw images, there are 88 CD-ROMs worth:

nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...

All 88 CD-ROM volumes of the Clementine raw image collection are available at NSSDC. These disks are arranged by Clementine orbit number, with 3 to 5 orbits contained per CD, starting with orbit 32, the beginning of the lunar mapping phase. An index of the orbits and locations of the coverage for each CD is available. The raw images from all imaging sensors (UV/Visible, Near IR, Long-Wavelength IR, High Resolution, and Star Tracker cameras) will be included for each orbit.

Order page: nssdc.gsfc.nasa.gov...

But now we have higher quality images coming the LRO and other spacecraft:

www.nasa.gov...

LRO will spend at least a year in a low polar orbit approximately 50 kilometers (31 miles) above the lunar surface, while its seven instruments find safe landing sites, locate potential resources, characterize the radiation environment and test new technology.

Google moon is piecing together different images from different missions so this will create even more mosaic-type artifacts at the seams between images.

You can see the mosaic effect on the LRO website by looking at the mosaic view:

wms.lroc.asu.edu...

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Those seams aren't really on the moon of course, but that's what you get when you patch together images from multiple orbits.

If not mistaken, which sometimes happens to the best of us, the photos I present came from the Japanese Lunar orbiter KAGUYA (SELENE) data archives, not NASA.

These are High Definition photos incorporated into Google Earth / Moon of the Apollo 15 lunar landing site.. They are not stitched together in the traditional manner.

Below is the area of capture from a HD Japanese camera in question. The zoom in ability is quite remarkable.




The "seem" in this view is a slight discoloration and not a distinct line.

To keep its context I have included views at different zoom levels so the viewer can follow the decent and notice where the HD seem is.




One of the Anomalous lines starts to come into view.



Now the anomalous line is in full view with orientation to the HD seam line.




Now in its final zoom you can see it has nothing to do with any seem lines.




For more information on the Japanese HD filming process (Which by the way I believe uses filming processes that do not include haphazard human "hairs") please follow this link.

JAXA released data from the lunar explorer "KAGUYA" (SELENE) (L2 products) during the nominal operation phase (from December 21, 2007 to October 31, 2008) to the public through the Internet.

L2 products are calibrated/validated processed data from KAGUYA science mission instruments. By using the L2 products, researchers all over the world are expected to advance the scientific analysis and applicability investigation of the moon.

www.kaguya.jaxa.jp...

KAGUYA taking around the landing site of the Apollo 15 by HDTV

reply to post by All Seeing Eye


Just for snips and giggles, I 'googled' in 'images' category; Keywords "google earth image seams"....and, lo and behold, found this rather informative article/blog entry:

One of the main challenges in mosaic production is ensuring the mosaic is seamless. That is, one cannot easily discern where the edges of the input images are. This can be challenging for a number of reasons. One of the most difficult aspects involves the input image geometry. Because the input images have different perspective centers, the geometry of surface objects will vary between images.

fiducialmark.blogspot.com...

(He/She) goes on to discuss the aspects related more to Google Earth images, and buildings that don't line up etc...all things that we are familiar with, since we live on this planet.

BUT, it has relevance to the images of ALIEN planets, doesn't it?? Even if there are no buildings...you still see seams.....

reply to post by weedwhacker

BUT, it has relevance to the images of ALIEN planets, doesn't it?? Even if there are no buildings...you still see seams.....

True, very true. But with differing photo process, those seems will appear, different. But again, the entire picture presented is not all seems. One must look at the entire picture to see the edges. In this HD process it appears they intentionally discolored the photos to highlight the "seem" so you know where it is. HD is filled with information the Apollo missions could only dream of.

I have shown where the boundary seem line is in relation to the HD seem line, and they are not the same. This anomalous line is separate from any seem or boundary line. It is its own artifact.

Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
If not mistaken, which sometimes happens to the best of us, the photos I present came from the Japanese Lunar orbiter KAGUYA (SELENE) data archives, not NASA.

Partly correct, partly mistaken I think.

Look at the bottom of the Google moon images you posted.
Some say JAXA, and NASA.
Some don't say JAXA, and only say NASA.

My take is the images that used JAXA say JAXA at the bottom, those that don't, don't, but if you find any clarification from Google to the contrary, please enlighten me.