Sexist Female Oppression? Cleavage In The Workplace

reply to post by Aeons


If everyone was to walk around naked, there would no need to feel embarrassed about your or anyone's else unique physique.

Why be ashamed of anything that was given to us naturally, we are all unique and different.

I think it would take a while to get use to it, but after a while, no one would even notice that the other person is naked.

Of course when it is cold, some protection should be worn, just so you don't freeze.

Vvv

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Death_Kron

 

You think I'm joking about the guys distracting me.......I'm not. Men don't have the market cornered on sexual arousal.

Ermm, then shouldn't you be the one showing a little self control?

Originally posted by Death_Kron

P.S. The gentlement just know how to look better without being seen

Pretty much.

Also diplomacy means you have a silver tongue and know how to manipulate people.

If your competant and your efficient with your work then ive no idea what all the fuss would be about. Offices tend to bring out the bitchiness in people or be it gayness bitch sniping,jealousy,bullying.......I may be however misunderstanding the point so i would ask whomever to have tolerance and possibly show me the problem, Alternatively if their that unhappy may i suggest that one applies as a receptionist to the London Borough of Newham where they have just turned their council offices into a disco at a cost of 111million as im sure that they wouldn't mind spending an extra £700 to insert a pole for you to slide up and down on.

www.metro.co.uk/news/850631-newham-council-dubbed-vain-after- spending-111m-on-offices

reply to post by Shikamaru


Sorry, but thats not really very deep.

By your logic, men should also be able to come into work and wear what they want, so I guess no one will have a problem when I turn up in my skin tight boxers and wellingtons?

Read the thread title, we are discussing clothing in the workplace.

Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Death_Kron

 

See - there is a big difference between someone noticing and someone being ridiculous. Some of the guys on here describing how they react - they aren't gentlemen. Gentlemen notice, they just don't ....call attention to it and continue to make it into a big deal.

By your usage of the word gentlemen are you implying these "good guys" notice but don't stare? I mean I'd be against obvious gawping at a large breasted woman at work but these gentlemen of with you speak have no less sexual desire than the vulgar sex pests you seem be believe work in offices around the world.

P.S. The gentlement just know how to look better without being seen

Just the guys describing themselves on here as being unable to control themselves and are angry at women because of their lack of self control are vulgar pests.

And I totally agree with your assessment of gentlemen. Lack of a sex drive isn't necessary. The ability to maintain onself in a fitting manner and still see someone as a PERSON isn't lost, and they don't draw attention to themselves about it.

I don't expect that men lack the ability to see - I merely expect them to act in a manner where they take responsibility for themselves. And the men I work with do.

reply to post by Aeons


Well, get a hold of yourself Mrs. when's the last time you saw a guy walking around at work with three for four buttons unbuttoned so he could show you his cleavage? Do those neck cravats turn you on or something?! (Said in semi-jest, tongue and cheek fashion)

Originally posted by Death_Kron

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Death_Kron

 

You think I'm joking about the guys distracting me.......I'm not. Men don't have the market cornered on sexual arousal.

Ermm, then shouldn't you be the one showing a little self control?

Exactly. I don't draw attention to myself NOTICING the nice looking guy who is waving his cute hiney in my face. Nor am I angry with him for being attractive. Therefore, I know it is possible.

reply to post by Death_Kron


Or the lack of as you have just demonstrated hmm exactly the point. re read again .

Originally posted by bigrex
reply to post by Aeons

 

Well, get a hold of yourself Mrs. when's the last time you saw a guy walking around at work with three for four buttons unbuttoned so he could show you his cleavage? Do those neck cravats turn you on or something?! (Said in semi-jest, tongue and cheek fashion)

Some of those light dress shirts are just a bit transparent, and cling to the back of men with nice shoulders. The hussies.....

Sorry i had problems posting here's hoping ive not duplicated my reply.

If your competant and your efficient with your work then ive no idea what all the fuss would be about. Offices tend to bring out the bitchiness in people or be it gayness bitch sniping,jealousy,bullying.......I may be however misunderstanding the point so i would ask you have tolerance and possibly show me, or if your that unhappy may i sugest that you apply as a receptionist to the London Borough of Newham where they have just turned their council offices into a disco at a cost of 111million as im sure that they wouldn't mind spending another £700 to insert a pole for you to slide up and down on.

www.metro.co.uk/news/850631-newham-council-dubbed-vain-after- spending-111m-on-offices

Originally posted by shshiskhn
reply to post by Death_Kron

 

Or the lack of as you have just demonstrated hmm exactly the point. re read again .

Who on earth invited you to the party?

Would you like to make a point rather than a simple one liner telling me to read again?

reply to post by Aeons


Again, what your "gentlemen" say about you and your female co-workers behind your back would surprise you. It happens everywhere in every country in every industry. Men are men. I find it funny that you are so upset at the men here that are telling you how it really is yet seem to think your studs are somehow better than just because they aren't sexually harassing you. I bet every other guy here doesn't go around sexually harassing women either. I know I don't but I still notice and it can still be a distraction.

reply to post by Aeons


listen, i never said i was angry at women for dressing revealingly, only that the workplace isn't the place for it. neither did i suggest that i was staring at these women in a vulgar manner. only that i would stare occasionally subconciously. certainly we men should try our best to not stare, but the whole premise of this thread is that if men stare it's their fault, even if the women in the workplace wearing this revealing clothing are doing it knowing that they'll get lots of attention from the men. that to me , is slutty, does that mean i hate women or that i'm vulgar towards them, no. but if you're going to put them out there on purpose i'll take a look. and i'm not ashamed to admit that.

i dont' think men should dress in tight clothing either. or that they should wear clothing that shows off their physical endowments, muscular or groin-wise. like i said, it's a workplace, and that's what this thread is about, not about walking down the street.

Originally posted by shshiskhn
Sorry i had problems posting here's hoping ive not duplicated my reply.

If your competant and your efficient with your work then ive no idea what all the fuss would be about. Offices tend to bring out the bitchiness in people or be it gayness bitch sniping,jealousy,bullying.......I may be however misunderstanding the point so i would ask you have tolerance and possibly show me, or if your that unhappy may i sugest that you apply as a receptionist to the London Borough of Newham where they have just turned their council offices into a disco at a cost of 111million as im sure that they wouldn't mind spending another £700 to insert a pole for you to slide up and down on.

www.metro.co.uk/news/850631-newham-council-dubbed-vain-after- spending-111m-on-offices

So if I'm good at my job I should be allowed to wear what ever I want to work? Like just my boxers and sponge wellies?

Get real...

Originally posted by Aeons
reply to post by Death_Kron

 

You think I'm joking about the guys distracting me.......I'm not. Men don't have the market cornered on sexual arousal.

(Maybe this will make more sense, I included the quote I was referring to)...Well, get a hold of yourself Mrs. when's the last time you saw a guy walking around at work with three for four buttons unbuttoned so he could show you his cleavage? Do those neck cravats turn you on or something?! (Said in semi-jest, tongue and cheek fashion)

You know a bit off topic, but relevant to the bent of the conversation...

As a guy who has been allowed into the inner sanctum of the female world upon occasion, I can assure you that, when it comes to "dirty talk" the women have the men beat, hands down. Seriously.

A group of guys sits around and says "Would you?" and replies of "Yes" ring out.

With women? About two hours of very creative details.

So, making the assumption that men have a monopoly upon sexuality and sexual response to environmental stimuli is a trap that leads to completely inaccurate assumptions and conclusions.

~Heff

Originally posted by janon
reply to post by Aeons

 

And you know so much about what men think about or talk about when women aren't around how? You would really be surprised at how different men can be. Your "gentlemen" could very well be a crude misogynist behind your back. I've seen it happen a lot.

As long as it doesn't effect his work I don't care about it. I'm competent, and if he's not capable of working with me due to his thoughts that will be on him.

Since this is about "at work" so long as he doesn't allow it to effect his work I don't give a flyin' ratspatootie....I'm not there for his friendship.

reply to post by optimus primal


In that case, you agree with me that is high time that all the policemen and solidiers stop wearing such enticing uniforms, clinging to some of their hot bods.

Originally posted by Aeons
As long as it doesn't effect his work I don't care about it. I'm competent, and if he's not capable of working with me due to his thoughts that will be on him.

Since this is about "at work" so long as he doesn't allow it to effect his work I don't give a flyin' ratspatootie....I'm not there for his friendship.

So it is his problem that your clothing choice is a distraction? I just want to make sure I'm reading that right.

So it would be okay for me to play death metal on my mp3 player at full blast all day long even if it was a distraction because you should be able to control yourself?