Pope calls Christians the most persecuted

Originally posted by Danbones
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Residential schools and the sex crimes of the church are an on going thing
and not historical at all yet
The Jews are still howling about the persecution at the hands of the Christsian germans who were roughly half and half Protestant and Catholic...
again the double standard

The jews need to get over it and move on...yes, they are the historical punching bag, but they are doing alright now (with the exception of israel being surrounded by danger, but thats a different thread).
Yes, child molestation in the church is certainly a bad thing...but that is not like...molesting the muslim children...thats just a number of bad apples doing illegal acts.

Thats not persecution...its bad, but not persecution. You cannot say that since John is a jackarse, targetting random people in the club he is part of is fine, or should be minimized into fair game.

those molestation cases were also men...does this mean men in general are fine to kill off because some do illegal acts?

reply to post by TheWill


Its very true, size wise they have many more followers.


I can agree with that, the last pope I found was more in tuned with reality.

reply to post by pthena


They can't pass the collection plate to you when you are in the closet.
and I mean that in every sence of the word collection.

The Pope's Holy War must be going well for him to demand Christians have more freedom in Iraq.

The richest man in the world has nothing to fear. He's got lots more peasants without jobs in America ready to go kill for him.

"Don't waste a good crisis".......

Who's next Pope? Those muslims in the Philippines ain't been beat since we started shooting them in the 1800's......Can we kill them for ya next Pope??

Give us some money Pope...we'll kill 'em for ya.

reply to post by AshleyD


Aww the poor Christians being prosecuted in Saudi, Iraq and Pakistan......

Well Well, i am sure it was US that illegally invaded Iraq was it not? Now tell me how do you expect Christians to be safe when the Sunni and Shia muslims don't spare each other in a war zone?

I don't think i have ever heard about Christians being prosecuted in Saudi but even if they did, the US is capable to do something about it as it has millitary bases doted across Saudi.

And Pakistan? Where international aid has trebled between the past 2 years and a few days ago US sold them dozens of F-16's?

I think the Hindus (BJP) in India have harmed more christians than all the muslim countries combined together.

reply to post by SaturnFX


So Nazis specifically targeting jews isn't persecution? The Christians targeting the first nations with their residential schools is not persecution?

Also the jewish certainly shouldn't get over being slaughtered in WWII, If anything that is one of the most horrible crimes in the past 100 years. I think they have a right to be pissed off.

reply to post by SaturnFX


You read the quotes from Christians from Iraq, along with Pthena's post I hope
My point is if Christians wanted to stop the persecxution they should lead by example
as christ would have done and go heal the needy.
The pontification isn't going to help.

Break open the vatican bank and go fix what ever can be fixed...
and stop making money from investments in porno, and the military industrial complex, and derivatives and...
ooooh what was I thinkin?

As the jesuits have said "Give us a child till he is seven and he is ours for life"
as a cash cow in the flock....

reply to post by Xiamara


What about the Ukranian Genocide in the 30's? and the Armenian Genocide? How are these any less important than the grand "holocaust" ?

Just because Speilburg hasn't made a movie about these doesn't mean they didn't happen.

reply to post by mayabong


That's why I said "one of the most" I was responding to another comments about the Jewish getting over what happened.

reply to post by pthena




Valid point however...

I noticed you also left out Iran's stirring of that pot with their equipping and supplying insurgents in THEIR attempt at instigating a sectarian conflict between Iraq's Sunni and Shiites.

Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by mayabong

 

That's why I said "one of the most" I was responding to another comments about the Jewish getting over what happened.

They will never get over what happened because it is drilled into their head at a very young age. If you watch the movie "Defamation" which was made by a jew, it shows the horrible brainwashing that takes place.

Also in the movie, the head of the ADL says its very important not to link the Ukranian holocaust and the Jewish holocaust together. If you look at who the Bolsheviks were in Russia you can see why he thinks this.

For the record i'm not a christian or a muslim. lol

Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

Also the jewish certainly shouldn't get over being slaughtered in WWII, If anything that is one of the most horrible crimes in the past 100 years. I think they have a right to be pissed off.

Hmmm not forgeting that the jews have been generously compensated in that sense.

While nothing was done about 50-100 million Russian Christians who were slaughtered under communism during both the world wars.

Who is really listening to this person that condones acts of pedophilia?

A true Christian knows that they'll be persecuted in the end days. It's easy to call one self "Christian" but to live the life what Jesus called for is not so easy for these same people.

A true Christian would rather suffer and give up their life if given a choice between this world and the next. Something many so-called "Chritians" wouldn't do.

I trust the Catholic church's opinions on persecution...


...since they've been doing it better than anyone else for over a thousand years.

reply to post by Doujutsu


I was responding SPECIFICALLY to that post there have been many genocides over the course of history and all deserve recognition. If I had to address EVERY genocide I would be sitting at my computer typing for days. So I'm not going to do that.

Originally posted by Xiamara
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

So Nazis specifically targeting jews isn't persecution? The Christians targeting the first nations with their residential schools is not persecution?

omg, the nazi's are still killing the jews? damn...I thought we stopped that.
Why did we leave...everybody..gear up, the nazi's are still killing jews...quick, to europe we go!

Also the jewish certainly shouldn't get over being slaughtered in WWII, If anything that is one of the most horrible crimes in the past 100 years. I think they have a right to be pissed off.

What is the cut off date for them to go from feeling persecuted to feeling like they are now just part of society? like, 101 years...99 years and a day?

And contrast that with when black people in america should feel not persecuted

I understand its good to keep history..it is what makes your culture unique...but come on now...this isn't about historic persecution, this is about current world events.

Jews do not hold the monopoly for eternity on being persecuted and therefore invalidate anyone elses suffering ever because there was a time or two in history when they suffered...
I am not minimizing what they experienced,
I am just not using their experience to minimize what is going on now.

Originally posted by Danbones
and stop making money from investments in porno,

...vatican porn...gah...there are some visuals I could have gone a lifetime without considering.

While we are on the subject of genocides

Let's not just focus on the JEWS or NAZI Germany and or Christians etc.

Let's be fair here and reveal everyone's dirty laundry



Muslim genocide of hindus in India (a must read)

The Blitzkrieg of the Muslim armies in the first decades after the birth of their religion had such enduring results precisely because the Pagan populations in West- and Central-Asia had no choice (except death) but to convert. Whatever the converts' own resentment, their children grew up as Muslims and gradually identified with this religion. Within a few generations the initial resistance against these forcible converions was forgotten, and these areas became heidenfrei (free from Pagans, cfr. judenfrei).

The Muslim conquests, down to the 16th century, were for the Hindus a pure struggle of life and death.

War in Darfur

racism is at root of Sudan's Darfur crisis, that reluctance to call it genocide perpetuates hypocrisy in Afro-Arab relations, "Arab militias is the racist, fundamentalist, and undemocratic Sudanese state" [25] those who call themselves Arabs point to Arab ancestors who arrived as traders both before and after the arrival of Islam, and who gradually converted local Sudanese to the Islamic faith.[26] president Nimeiry of Sudan, said in 1969: "Sudan is the basis of the Arab thrust into the heart of Black Africa, the Arab civilizing mission." [27][28] this genocide has been described as an example of Arab racism at its worst.[29] The Arab Gathering, a shadowy Nazi type brotherhood deeply embedded in the Bashir regime, preaches a doctrine of Arab supremacy and a Sudan "cleansed" of non-Arabs. [30] Der Spiegel wrote that the Sudanese regime uses tribal conflicts and Arab racism.[31]

Christianity is not accepted well in China, Indiana, Japan, Russia, nearly all of the Middle East, etc. There are some high population countries there. Just because it's roses in the US that is not a world wide snapshot.

Yeah...Christians get persecuted in the middle-east...and? Is this really news? So were the children that clergy raped and the Vatican willingly ignored. People get persecuted all the time and for a number of reasons...it's nothing unusual about humanity. The pope's pretty useless other than looking like a complete clown...and having some kind of placebo effect on his sheeple, but that's about it.

What's funny is that the Vatican is still holding on to all the gold they stole centuries ago under the guise of god...and at the cost of the persecuted.