Astronomers Find First Evidence Of Other Universes

Originally posted by EdWard54
reply to post by RUSSO

 

good post

Unfortunately, I find the concept and idea that scientists have finally found their FIRST evidence of alien life somewhat hard to swallw.

So...after billions and billions of us taxpayer dollars and zillions funded with seti only NOW we are fed this tidbit nibble of a newsworthy article...

well, absolute bullcarp...

nothing, and i mean nothing could be further from the truth!

Of course, we all know stars are in space...yet in every single photograph or video from the ISS there are no stars...why is that!

all the better to lie to the sheep

Took the words right outta my mouth. Im getting tired of these type of headlines also . I guess its to feed the ignorant masses a little rat food. Then ats members gobble it up like a fat kid with a cheeseburger. then dare call this evidence. Im sick of it .

reply to post by imitator


I like what Michio Kaku said about multiverses.

Why do they release info like this just before 2012, Aliens are up next......This is the info that has been hidden from us for decades.

Multi universes are real,then yes the definition of universe has changed and also the concept that we truly do live in a fishbowl ,were others can easily observe us,sounds like the old greek gods all over again but with science to back it up and also means the scientists will be on a new quest to find out how many universes there are,maths never stops and still leaves the question of a creator further out there.
The chicken and the Egg just becomes bigger,however it will explain oddities of physics,like particle duplication in two places at once,ghosts,ufos and well anything to do with halloween !
However it won`t change our lifes really ,just add more to think on.

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
What definition of universe are they using? "Universe" is a word for the totality of everything that exists. So if they find "other universes", those "other universes" are just a part of the ONE universe. So there is still only one universe.

What they should be saying is that they found new parts of the universe, not more universes.

edit on 14-12-2010 by gift0fpr0phecy because: (no reason given)

Not exactly.. Each one of these "Bubbles" has its own laws of physics and is in no way connected to our own universe nor would it be physically possible. It would definatly be called a multiverse

reply to post by RUSSO


Yeah I like everything Michio Kaku says... His pond examples is a good one... those parallel universes are in our living room lol... and showing those pond fish the 3rd diminsion. Parallel universes can possibly exist in many states, it's possible they could be duplicated by splitting into another universe, or split into each possible state etc... Makes you wonder if there is another you swimming around....

I forgot about LISA, that should be interesting as well...

Well particle duplication has been generally answered ,sorry ,by string theory,its just the particle is part of a wave string reappearing in another vacum filled chamber !In short the particles are snapshots of strings not particles and part on an M-Brane or multiverse.sorry if its to deep.

reply to post by MITSwagger


This has already been studied and it is prooven that there are stars with out planets.

This idea of many universes is not new at all. The multivers is what it's called and it's been around for quite some time now.

reply to post by EdWard54


There's a perfectly explainable reason why you "don't see" stars in pictures from the ISS and space missions. With your eye you could see stars in space, but you'd have to block the light from the sun with your hand for your eyes to adjust to the level needed to see dim starlight. You know how it is hard to see stars in a big city because of the lights, it's the same concept really. The camera doesn't pick up the stars because the camera lens works a bit differently than your natural eye lens.

In space there is no night and day in terms of lighting. So when photographing something in space the stars in the background are too dim in comparison to the light from the sun, so the camera doesn't pick up the starlight because it is metering off of the closer (brighter) light sources. It's the same reason why we don't see stars during the daylight hours here on earth, or like I said in a city at night, only applied to space...

reply to post by gringoboy


It is definitely hard to envision it. In the same way that it was already hard to conceptualize the "end" of the universe or how far it extends, now you have to imagine even more beyond that "end" and then you wonder where the hell it could go after that. It was already too big, now it's just unfathomable. But that's why the idea kind of started more as science fiction, we love the unfathomable. Now we have it.

As far as what to call anything or new terms being needed, I guess it's just semantics and there's many different ways of putting it. I try to remember language is just language.

reply to post by backinblack


actually, that would change our "universe" into a "multiverse". just different wording to say something that few sages have known for a LONG time.

reply to post by SpaceJ


True but it will explain why gravity is weak because its stronger somewhere else and is leaking too us,at least that is not unfathomable.

reply to post by imitator


I just dont like when he agree with the NWO. But seems that this will be a necessary evil.

reply to post by gringoboy


Well yeah the math of it is fathomable, but trying to imagine like remote viewing it in your mind, that is unfathomable to me. It goes about as far as imagining bubbles floating around, for me.

But then you wonder what is beyond the outer space outside of our multiverse. Or if it even is like bubbles floating around, what could it possibly look like? Is it even able to be seen theoretically in the first place? If it is anything similar to our laws of physics...which it may not be anything like...then maybe the space beyond the multiverse functions like dark matter and dark energy inside of our fish bowl...or maybe it doesn't. Maybe our multiverse is somehow cloaked in a way that you couldn't see it from the outside just like how you cant see dark matter. Or, it could be totally different, maybe you could actually see the outside of the universe somehow just like how we can see objects made of matter. Or maybe there is no such thing as matter/antimatter/dark energy/dark matter outside of our universe.

Anyone know what I'm getting at here? I just wonder what it looks like beyond our universe/multiverse/whatever. That is what I find unfathomable.

Originally posted by gringoboy
Well particle duplication has been generally answered ,sorry ,by string theory,its just the particle is part of a wave string reappearing in another vacum filled chamber !In short the particles are snapshots of strings not particles and part on an M-Brane or multiverse.sorry if its to deep.

Dunno where your going with that, not enough info lol.. Your just talking about a single particle, and it can be measured in more than one state. When I say duplicate I'm referring to the many shades of red or there can be another me one step ahead or behind in the multiverse, that is possible... and my duplicate may not even look like me.

Originally posted by Insipid2000

Originally posted by gift0fpr0phecy
What definition of universe are they using? "Universe" is a word for the totality of everything that exists. So if they find "other universes", those "other universes" are just a part of the ONE universe. So there is still only one universe.

What they should be saying is that they found new parts of the universe, not more universes.

edit on 14-12-2010 by gift0fpr0phecy because: (no reason given)

Not exactly.. Each one of these "Bubbles" has its own laws of physics and is in no way connected to our own universe nor would it be physically possible. It would definatly be called a multiverse

I have to agree with gift0fpr0phecy. I was just about to post the same thing. It doesn't matter if they are connected or not. They are still part of the same thing. It's just bigger than they previously thought. Universe means EVERYTHING.
Just because they've found parallel dimensions to it, doesn't mean it's another Universe, or another Everything. You can't have more than one Everything.

This is how I see it. It's what I've suspected since I was taught about the official big bang theory (which I didn't agree with). Our big bang is one off many big bangs, that were all created inside a bigger big bang. That bigger big bang was one of many other bigger big bangs that were all created inside an even bigger big bang etc etc. If you get what I mean All of that, going on forever and ever, is the Universe.

That is my understanding of Infinity and has always made perfect sense to me.

Science proves itself wrong everyday. You should always think beyond cutting edge science.

Just my opinion

reply to post by gringoboy


If you're talking about what I posted about the atom, I would like to say he was just showing how words, concepts, change over time.

reply to post by HexagonSun


Disheartening to think that much of what I studied and learned in school about physics today is pure fiction.

Glad that I am a person who enjoys change.

Originally posted by RUSSO

There's something exciting afoot in world of cosmology. Last month, Roger Penrose at the University of Oxford and Vahe Gurzadyan at Yerevan State University in Armenia announced that they had found patterns of concentric circles in the cosmic microwave background, the echo of the Big Bang.

This, they say, is exactly what you'd expect if the universe were eternally cyclical. By that, they mean that each cycle ends with a big bang that starts the next cycle. In this model, the universe is a kind of cosmic Russian Doll, with all previous universes contained within the current one.

That's an extraordinary discovery: evidence of something that occurred before the (conventional) Big Bang.

Today, another group says they've found something else in the echo of the Big Bang. These guys start with a different model of the universe called eternal inflation. In this way of thinking, the universe we see is merely a bubble in a much larger cosmos. This cosmos is filled with other bubbles, all of which are other universes where the laws of physics may be dramatically different to ours.

These bubbles probably had a violent past, jostling together and leaving "cosmic bruises" where they touched. If so, these bruises ought to be visible today in the cosmic microwave background.

Now Stephen Feeney at University College London and a few pals say they've found tentative evidence of this bruising in the form of circular patterns in cosmic microwave background. In fact, they've found four bruises, implying that our universe must have smashed into other bubbles at least four times in the past.
Again, this is an extraordinary result: the first evidence of universes beyond our own........continues in the link

In November, scientists at the Large Hadron Collider (LHC, its acronym in English) and CERN (European Organization for Nuclear Research) have to be searching for other dimensions and, in early December, another group reported that there are three times more stars in the universe.

Parallel realities are real?
We are dreaming... and we exist in the dream, the dream is real, when we dream... this reality is dream like, so...?
Just speculative crap?

Cosmological data has yet to confirm, what some scientists have already affirmed.
There's still a lot left to be learned.



www.sott.net
(visit the link for the full news article)

edit on 14-12-2010 by RUSSO because: (no reason given)

So first, the universe (a body containing many galaxies) expands after forming a singularity and eventually contracts again to do it all over again. I thought this was kind of obvious even before this discovery, sure there is an expansion taking place but eventually gravity pulls everything back to a center again forming a singularity and boom! A never ending cycle, continuing infinetely... no begining or end.... how exciting There could be space based civilizations out there that are many UNIVERSES old! And people say extraterrestrials couldn't possibly exist But, if we were the only civilization this time, who was last time? >=D

Second, multiple universes... side by side, like giant spinning tops... so elegant. With universes touching I am assuming there will be "interference" between the two? Maybe we could find a point where another universe is touching with the least "interference" and make a big opening to it Who knows, maybe another civilization found such a spot and already built a gateway... Billy Meier notes anyone >=D (sorry, had to ).

Third, no god to create a "Big Bang", lolz xD