Iran criticises 'harsh' police tactics at tuition fees protests in UK

Iran criticises 'harsh' police tactics at tuition fees protests in UK

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Foreign ministry in Tehran summons ambassador to express concerns about 'violations of the freedom of British citizens'

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At least someone is watching the events which is unravelling in Europe.

Anyways:

Why are students turning violent?

How many students have been arrested?

Does anyone have records of how many students have been arrested?

Where are they taken when they are arrested? Are they being treated with their rights?

How do we know whether students are not mis-treated, or not beaten and bruised in the paddy wagons etc.

Who has over sight?

All of these needs to be investigate it.

Thoughts.

oz

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Iran?!

They are no where close to being able to cast stones.

Whats next Russia and China standing up for human rights?

Sick sick sick.

Iran, that huge abuser of human rights, is calling Britain wrong here?

Iran, sort your own country out before you criticize others.

OMG, I would love to be at that meeting when the Ambassador of a rights -abusing country protests to Britain.

I would laugh in their face.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Iran?!

They are no where close to being able to cast stones.

Whats next Russia and China standing up for human rights?

So UK is in a position to criticize Iran's handling of protests, but Iran is not allowed to criticize UK's handling of protests

It's not 1st April is it?

Iran criticising another country for the way they police a demonstration has got to be one of the biggest jokes of the year!

reply to post by oozyism


They can criticize each other all they want, but neither really have the integrity for it to be taken seriously.

The UK have skeletons in the close too.

A bit of perspective here.

Most students were staging a peaceful protest, but a few stirrers turned it into a violent and dangerous scene and Charles and Camilla were in danger in the middle of it.

Police only reacted - they were quite happy for a peaceful protest, unlike Iran.

I might agree but the point is if it takes a nation like iran to say the police was heavy handed they must have a perspective on the British police and this was way out of character for a nation that has progressed through demonstrations. If no one else is saying it and it takes a country like Iran to say it then dosent that say anything about governments worldwide? Make no mistake if they could they would make protesting illegal just as in Iran and as we have seen they isnt much difference only the fact that Britain is more in the public eye and needs tourists money to keep the little shopkeepers happy.

Maybe Iran planted the trouble-makers in order to criticize Britain.

A form of terrorism.

Eat away at the truth, eat away at the upholders of truth and decency.

Terrorism involves a lot more than bombs.

Terrorism is like acid - it destroys everything.

And after that? A great big nothing.

So it is important to stand up and be counted in the war against terrorism.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
Iran?!

They are no where close to being able to cast stones.

Whats next Russia and China standing up for human rights?

well i think it is quite funny and think there is a point here intended by iran, the U.S. and the U.K. call out iran all the time about human rights abuses, yet care not about their own citizens when they start protesting.

so yes your right iran has no right to call out the U.K., but i think the point is iran is saying, the U.K. has no right to call them out about it, when they treat their own citizens in the same manner.

there are numerous videos on the net of U.K. and U.S. police violating peoples human rights. so who has the right to call out anybody when they are both as bad as each other, iran is just highlighting the U.K.'s hypocritical
stance towards protesters.

lol, the B.B.C. and sky news were so concerned about peoples rights in iran and police violence, you should hear them now, now that people in the U.K. are protesting, they are all for giving the protesters as bad an image as possible, as well as calling for tougher measures.

Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by oozyism

 

They can criticize each other all they want, but neither really have the integrity for it to be taken seriously.

The UK have skeletons in the close too.

WOW Thank GOD, I thought you one of the double standard kinda of a guys.

Thanks for saying they have the right to criticize.

I think it should be taken seriously, because that is how you bring about change. If you forget all the criticism because the criticizer is not perfect, then the world will be forzen and nothing will change for the good.

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So some context, more often than not the police START the violence by kettling perfectly innocent protestors, this most likely is so they can ignore the demands by saying they are violent thugs, more than one MP has came out and said this is not a minority but a majority of hooligans at these protests.

The reason for this is to try & explain why there a thousands of people fighting the cops, and not just a few troublemakers, the reality is these people are not fighting, but in most cases DEFENDING THEMSELVES. There has hardly been any arrests as of yet, the cops arent out there to arrest they are out there to beat people up. The simple fact that most if not all of them have their faces covered & numbers obscured should tell you everything you need to know about the cops motives. Housewifes & teachers do not go out to start fighting with cops, but that is what is happening!!

The UK is NOT a free country, It hasnt been for a while!

Time & time again reporters and tons of other people are saying its the cops, ONLY the media, MP & Cops are blaming the protestors, even ALL of the videos PROVE the cops are the agressors.

They intend on using water cannons next, so it begins here. A few deaths and the protests will get bigger & bigger, they can either own up and admit thier mistakes or this could very well be the begning of the end for these corrupt scum bags in power!

The more the police escalate the violence the more violence that will come down on top of them, just wait until the people that know what their doing start joining in!! Exciting times, dangerous but exciting none the less!

What may be missed here is this:

The UK and the USA have both moved so far towards being police state that it gives governments known to be repressive (like Iran's government) cover to abuse their own people in protests. That the opportunities now exist frequently to ponder similarities at all is a measure of how far we have moved towards real repression.

So the Iranians know full well this is a case of "the pot calling the kettle black," but more than that, it is a case of the pot welcoming all the new black kettles and reminding them they have lost their moral authority (something the USA lost 8 years ago when it launched the "Bush Doctrine" of unprovoked "preventative" war).

I can see why Iran has a problem with this, I mean this is a tuition fees protest it’s really important to let it go ahead without the police meting out beatings or gang raping folk, it isn’t something trivial like an election or something.

Iran can criticise all they like, I invite them to, it makes them look absolutely ridiculous and desperate to boot. Those who watched the protests from beginning to end will know that the police for the most part were just standing there, vastly outnumbered and taking the sticks, stones, metal fences and abuse without retaliation.

They knew that everyone was being filmed and could just be arrested at a later date. 180+ students have been arrested so far.

reply to post by oozyism

Isn’t that like the pot calling the kettle black?
Iran is in no position to tell anyone about how to handle demonstrations or give a moral lesson on freedom, when it oppresses its own people. There is a large difference between what Great Britain did and Iran has done in the past, lets review what all goes on:
In Iran, after the last elections, while its population was peacefully demonstrating, the government and the police, and the clerics, all condemned and arrested people for speaking out against the government, and often inflicting cruel punishment to fear and cow the population. Keeping them down so they dare not complain again, and enforcing draconian laws on such.
In Iran, the parliament can’t even launch an investigation or so much as an open debate about the president there, without fear of reprisal from the grand Ahyalotolla. This includes possible imprisonment, death and threats against those members families.
England: Under budget constraints, are having to cut free university tuition, and the students protest violently, causing damage and physically attacking people, forcing the police to take action.
Gee I wonder who all has greater claim to speak:
Iran, where people are oppressed, or England where free people break the law?
I go with England, cause Iran just has no room to speak on anything, with its policies towards its own people.

isnt irans next big "superbowl" is blinding a very pissed off husband? something about them saying they are going to release a woman, but they are going to bury her to her neck and literally stone her? yet the uk was harsh, i see whats goin on, they think its a compliment. hes over in his palace thinking, these english chaps are getting it i think

Really?

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Originally posted by MikeboydUS
reply to post by oozyism

 

They can criticize each other all they want, but neither really have the integrity for it to be taken seriously.

The UK have skeletons in the close too.

Not only that but they are responsible for the skeletons in many closets.

All this shows is that politics is hypocritical and corrupt through and through. This is why I will never take a side, because they are all as bad as each other.

Is there a single nation on this earth which has a government who know and fulfil their true purpose?

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