UFO´s and "Top Secret"

Soo,

If UFO´s are "UNIDENTYFIED FLYING OBJECTs", why is it so important to
keep the information about them HIDDEN and secret??

If, one doesent KNOW what they are, why the need for secracy??

If a file is keept hidden or labled "SECRET" then imho the one that
keeps it a secret MUST know more about it than the "UNIDENTYFIED"..

Are you guys following me here.....

The solidification of an intelligent extraterrestrial life visiting this planet at their will, could mean the down fall of not only religion, but government and economy as well. The governments aren’t going to come out and openly admit to the populations of the world: “Yeh… We’ve been blatantly lying to all of you for almost eighty years now. Sorry, our bad; but we were just doing it for your own good… Honestly.”

Can you imagine what the United States of America would unleash on them at this point? It could create a civil uprising; a cause for everyone to give up what little faith we have left in our once great government. The world as it currently exists is one gigantic house of cards…

(This could be the breeze that blows it all down)

I don’t suppose every President of the United States, or every one of their chosen officials, have known all the facts. But individuals behind the scenes do exist. Black Ops are no fairy tail. They’re in place to protect the President and public members of the government from knowing too much. After all…
You don’t have to deny what you don’t know!

"I'm not at liberty to discuss the government’s knowledge of extraterrestrial UFO's at this time. I am still personally being briefed on the subject!"
President Richard M. Nixon

"I think about how quickly our differences worldwide would vanish if we were facing an alien threat from outside of this world. And I ask you…
Does this threat not already exist?"
President Ronald Reagan

"The U.S. Air force assures me that UFO's pose no threat to National Security."
President John F Kennedy

"I don't laugh at people any more when they say they've seen UFOs… I've seen one myself!"
President Jimmy Carter

Originally posted by Miccey
Soo,

If UFO´s are "UNIDENTYFIED FLYING OBJECTs", why is it so important to
keep the information about them HIDDEN and secret??

If, one doesent KNOW what they are, why the need for secracy??

If a file is keept hidden or labled "SECRET" then imho the one that
keeps it a secret MUST know more about it than the "UNIDENTYFIED"..

Are you guys following me here.....

No. Really Not.
Please expand your thought and let me know exactly what is your point of view, beyond of your words tricks.

Ok Look.
Im NOT talking about ET´s, Aliens or the sort..
Im talking about UNIDENTYFIED FLYING OBJECT´s...

The once that are UNKNOWN...

So the gmvt´s all around the world keep sightings from
all kinds of proffesional branches like Military, Police
and radaroperators SECRET...

Why??

If they are UNKNOWN or UNIDENTYFIED,
why keep it a secret...???

reply to post by Miccey


Beyond your words tricks: The answer, in an only word, for the secrecy on this matter is FEAR......

UFOs are known to a select group of people. There is no top secret that we know of thus we may speculate on the ships and the technology. It has been said the secret is free energy. I recall from Bill Lyne's research that he said the motors may be as common as chain saw or lawn mower engines. Thus the advantage is the electrical hold in the momentum on the inter atomic matter. The further secrets and associated science are not secret they were just confiscated from the public due to natural alternate energy reasons as part of national security supporting the oil industry. Items like books that a Dr Moray used was no longer available and had to use a copy that was in private hands. Full scale elimination, perhaps book burning who knows, was and still exists to stop energy producing methods. Is the old ether theory involved. Most likely.

Originally posted by Miccey
If UFO´s are "UNIDENTYFIED FLYING OBJECTs", why is it so important to
keep the information about them HIDDEN and secret??

You are making a big assumption; that is, that "the government" actually knows what UFOs are and has some sort of secret program to keep everything under wraps.

I think that we can all agree that the "UFO phenomenon" consists of:

1). Things that have a perfectly normal explanation (mis-identified mundane aircraft, atmospheric phenomenon, hoaxes, etc.)

2). Secret military aircraft - either "ours" or "theirs"

3). Truly unexplainable phenomena

Obviously #2 is kept under wraps. We know that "the government" has investigated #3 on occasion, and has sometimes made both the research and the findings "secret."

Personally, I think that the stuff that falls into category #3 has so much in common with other types of paranormal phenomena that I'm not convinced that its alien spacecraft; I think it could be some sort of spiritual/religious or extra dimensional thing that we just don't understand.

reply to post by Miccey


First off, you'd have to put it in context with what was happening when UFO reports really started in earnest...the mid to late 40's.

We were just coming out of WWII, the Russians were an emerging (and adversarial) Superpower. "Unidentified" pretty much translated as "Possible Russian", so of course any such details were going to be classified. Important note also, when first used, the term was UFOB vs. UFO, so in older references, you may see that acronym...means the same thing though.

The military first started secret projects such as Grudge and Sign to study the phenomenon, and then Blue Book became the public project, as public concern was mounting.

However, if one believes that we did recover a crashed saucer/s, then we'd have to conclude that they eventually surmised these were not Russian nor any other Earthly power, and so of course, you'd have to embark on an even greater level of secrecy.

All intelligence agencies, of all nations are infiltrated. It's just a question of degree. For closed societies like Russia was (in the day, and even now a bit), it was harder for us to penetrate. However, as an open society, we were fair game (as evidenced by many high profile captures). So, the level of secrecy for something like an ET craft, is well, immense.

You can't switch to "Identified" without telling folks what it is, so of course, it's easier to keep it as "Unidentified"....if you want to keep the secret.

LOL, you guys are really cracking me up here...
YOU are making the assumptions that UFO´s are
something ( real or not )...What im saying is that
an UNIDENTYFIED object is unknown...

And there are no word tricks...

UFO = UNIDENTYFIED FLYING OBJECT...right or wrong??

Fear you say, if i fear something i dont know what is, i should be
put in a shrinks prison..Thats not healthy.

If i come across something and i realize, i dont know what it is. I try
to find out..The only reason i should fear it, is if i find out what it is
and find that it is a threat to me or my peers...

So again:
Why put the label Top Secret or even just "secret" on a matter
that is UNKNOWN......

And no agin, im not playing with words.

UFO = Unidentyfied Flying Object

NOTHING MORE, NOTHING LESS

Because if something is UNIDENTIFIED, then it's threat level is also UNIDENTIFIED, and if the characteristics don't fit conventional explanations, then it could be a potential enemy and/or foreign craft, and therefore should be SECRET as it may be utilizing advanced technology, etc.. Not sure why this is difficult to see.

reply to post by Miccey


Stop playing word games here. I believe all would agree that UFO in the context of this forum means crafts that are controlled by ET/Space Invaders/Martians/Greys/Ancient Astronaut/Galactic Federation. If you want to know more about advanced crafts under development by gov't black ops, you can subscribe to Popular Mechanics.

reply to post by Miccey


I accept your debate Miccey.

if i fear something i dont know what is, i should be put in a shrinks prison

Hemmm No. Wrong way.
You fear viruses but you cant put them in prison.
My opinion.

Some UFOs are surely explicables Phenomena. But other are surely of "Unknown" Origin.

Surely many secret apparatuses inside the Governs, they know that these "Objects" arent from this planet but from elsewhere.

The word Fear: You know that some "things" if not carefully managed can explode.

The problems in this matter are two: NEW KIND OF ENERGY and the CHANGE OF PARADIGM for humanity.

Now, you are a guy so smart that you surely comprehend the HUGE of this two BIG PROBLEMS in a matter as UFOs.

Secrecy, till this moment, is the veil to hidden to the whole Human kind the existence of "Someone else".

Maybe a new world-wide approach to this matter from some Economic/Religious Elitès and trough The MSM could help humanity to understand and accept the truth.

Hmmmm...
Ok you guys surely are lost...

If i say BLACK do i "mean" dark grey with dark purple?
No i say Black i mean black...No playing..

A UFO is a UFO...Thats it...

And we ALL see them...

For a split second you catch something in your perifer.
For a split second you have no idea what you just saw...
For a split second you DID SEE A UFO...
A split second later you IDENTYFIED the object....


IGNORE IGORANCE...right?

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Originally posted by Miccey
Soo,

If UFO´s are "UNIDENTYFIED FLYING OBJECTs", why is it so important to
keep the information about them HIDDEN and secret??

If, one doesent KNOW what they are, why the need for secracy??

If a file is keept hidden or labled "SECRET" then imho the one that
keeps it a secret MUST know more about it than the "UNIDENTYFIED"..

Are you guys following me here.....

You know, it sounds as if you haven't been around long on planet earth! As I've explained over and over, there's no secret information, only the methods that were used to gather the information. A lot of people, mostly here on Aliens and UFOs think that the U.S. Gov't and other governments have secret information as to who and where, how they operate, etc. The governments have no such information because if they really did life on planet earth would have changed long time ago. Our lives are the same day to day except for the date! Yea, we're following, you hear!

reply to post by The Shrike


The most fatal illusion is the settled point of view. Since life is growth and motion, a fixed point of view kills anybody who has one...

I think is "de"lusional...

To weave in the fact "Extraterestrial" or "Alien" into an uncertanty...Is beyond me...
40+ years ive been here and its only lately ive come to terms to the fact im not
sure what to belive...

Are people that dumb to not make a conclusion on their own...

I have a problem with my eyes making me see things that look like worms or
bacteria. Before i went to medicalschool i thought i saw all kinds of things..
Now i know what it is im seeing..

But sometimes, for a SPLIT second i dont know..Was it what i know or was it
something else...And a split second later ive made up my mind..
Making the "unknown" known...

Now, as to word games...
UFO´s are fact..
Unidentyfied Flying Object

As for ET crafts or devine beings...Only they KNOW for a fact...
I dont think any gvmt KNOW for a fact...Thus, why secret...???

Because they want to posses you and your mind. Their science cannot
explain even the ball ligtnings but you must believe in the rest.

Because they want to posses you and your mind. Their science cannot
explain even the ball lightnings but you must believe in the rest.