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1. Wikileaks proves Weapons Of Mass Destruction In Iraq. This should be a “Duh” moment but there’s more, of course.
www.americanthinker.com...
2. The last Wikileak Leak, which I downloaded (I downloaded this one too) had Osama bin Laden appearing in the first 10 pages (the American readers limit when given hundreds of pages of boring #) and alive and in charge of Al Qaeda in Afghanistan even though he’s very likely been dead for a long, long time.
3. If Julian Assange were truly a rogue we ALL KNOW the mainstream media would black him out and they would NOT report anything about anything that he’s revealed. Even more importantly, if these leaks were truly damaging to the US not ONE SINGLE media outlet would report them. Heck man, we can’t even get these people to report Building Seven. Geraldo did 5 minutes on it 10 YEARS AFTER the event.
4. Julian Assange accepts the official version of 911. If that isn’t an enormous Red Flag then I don’t know what is.
5. The overly-emphasized “CIA is after Assange” story in the media rings false. The CIA does not advertise its own agendas and missions, and the media rarely intrudes on their discretion. But here we have something like Wile E. Coyote and the Roadrunner. What’s wrong with this picture?
6. The recent (last week) NYT profile of Assange was originally bylined by Eric Schmitt, then the names were changed. Assange has used Schmitt in the past to communicate. Schmitt is a senior writer on terrorism and national security for the NYT, and is also a member of the Council on Foreign Relations.
7. Wikileaks reveals that 15,000 more died in Iraq then the US government actually admitted. WTF? The Iraq Coalition Casualty Count reports 43,000; the Iraq Body Count reports 94,000; the Brookings Institute reports 113,000; the Associated Press reports 34,000 and the World Health Organization reports 151,000. Try close to ONE MILLION, per the Lancet several years back. Do I trust the Lancet or some CIA plant? Well, I don’t trust the Lancet either and believe it was well over 1 million; but, I’d trust them over this yackadoodle any day of the week.
8. Puhleeze, these guys either aren’t too smart or they’re playing games because: The contact number on Wikileaks.org has a D.C. area code and is a Verizon cell phone number registered in Adelphi, Maryland. Intellus.com, a Web tracking service, connected the number to a ‘V.A. Reston.’ (give me a #ing break!) Twenty miles from Adelphi is Reston, VA., home to iDefense Labs, whose web site says it is a “comprehensive provider of security intelligence to governments.” The Washington, DC telephone number is also on the same exchange as the newly created “Iraq Study Group” (2005) and the Afghanistan Embassy Of Washington. The Iraq Study Group was designed by the Public Relations Firm hired by the US government to promote the Iraq War to us in the media.
9. The WikiLeaks document release reminds many of Daniel Ellsberg and the Pentagon Papers. Remember, Ellsberg worked for Internal Security Affairs. He was a spook. Ellsberg himself has recently come out to say he thinks the CIA may be targeting Assange. Oh, please.
10. Instead of discussion about the revelations in the documents, and questions about why the media did not report this stuff years ago, the takeaway from the latest WikiLeaks release has been a) look, Iran was involved and b) Assange is an alleged rapist and he’s a Bad Guy!
11. The same people who would have us believe Osama Bin Laden is living in comfort in Pakistan ten years after undergoing dialysis in a Dubai hospital, now bring us globetrotting Julian Assange— every bit as cartoonish as OBL. The bigger the lie, the more likely people will believe it.
12. Funny how Assange and Ellsberg gave a press conference last Saturday at a hotel located a stone’s throw from MI6, where yesterday spy chief Sir John Sawyers gave the first public speech in MI6′s 101-year history, defending secrecy in the war against terror. Both press conferences were written up in the NYT by John F. Burns. It’s always interesting to learn a little about the guys who write these stories, right? Burns studied Russian at Harvard, Chinese at Cambridge, and later Islamic history at Cambridge. He served as bureau chief in Moscow 1981-84, and is currently London bureau chief. He is married to a woman who is currently the NYT Baghdad bureau chief.
13. The CIA DID NOT arrest Assange at the Press Conference outlinesd above. Why not? (MI6 didn’t arrest him either but these Keystone Kops are still looking for Osama. Right?).
14. And the single most important factor is that Americans are rubes and if you tell a BIG lie often enough, even if it looks like, smells like and sounds like a lie, they WILL believe it. Think 911 here folks. This is a 21st Century Document Dump 911. A Controlled Demolition of your brain, no thermate necessary. No cell phones, no planes.
Originally posted by AntiCitizenZone
reply to post by S3ns1bl3
My lack of logic is your opinion your entitled to it.
I must say your crimes against spelling almost rival that of Assange!
Originally posted by S3ns1bl3
We can either chose to remain sheep or we can become wolves & take out planet back
Puh-leeeze... I'd like to know just what you're doing in your bedroom that you feel is so shameful that you assume that its obvious that we should accept that our neighbours shouldn't be able to see it. See, this is exactly the type of mentality that promotes the environment in which corruption thrives:
Puh-leeeze.... Saying that diplomatic communications should be public domain makes about as much sense as saying that we should do away with curtains so that neighbors can see into each other bedrooms.
Originally posted by Bunken Drum
reply to post by buddhasystemPuh-leeeze... I'd like to know just what you're doing in your bedroom that you feel is so shameful that you assume that its obvious that we should accept that our neighbours shouldn't be able to see it.
Puh-leeeze.... Saying that diplomatic communications should be public domain makes about as much sense as saying that we should do away with curtains so that neighbors can see into each other bedrooms.
I'm an adult. I have a healthy libido. I have a lot of sex.
Some of it is what many would call perverted. I just dont care; its consensual. I assume that other adults have whatever sex they enjoy. Why should I be surprised if I see them doing so? What do I care if somebody wants to watch me?
You claim that the Swedish legal system is in “deep crap” because of Wikileaks. Are you serious? What exactly do you mean? In what way has the revelation of some diplomatic cables affected the Swedish legal system? Do you really think that a prosecutor or Court of law let their work be affected by this? Well, then you have not got a clue about how the legal system works.
Förundersökning inledd om olovlig underrättelseverksamhet
2010-11-08
Tomas Lindstrand, chefsåklagare vid Åklagarkammaren för säkerhetsmål, har beslutat att inleda en förundersökning om olovlig underrättelseverksamhet. Utredningen rör amerikanska åtgärder för att skydda USA:s beskickning i Stockholm och amerikansk personal.
Syftet med förundersökningen är att; dels utreda om brott har begåtts, dels klarlägga vem eller vilka som har begått brott (om brott har begåtts).
Förundersökningen kommer att bedrivas av Säkerhetspolisen under ledning av Tomas Lindstrand, chefsåklagare vid Åklagarkammaren för säkerhetsmål.
Nu råder förundersökningssekretess i ärendet. Därför kan Säkerhetspolisen eller Tomas Lindstrand inte ge mer information för närvarande.
Bad google translation:
Trial commenced on illegal intelligence gathering
Tomas Lindstrand, chief prosecutor at the Public Prosecutor's Office for National Security, has decided to initiate an investigation of illegal intelligence . The investigation concerns the U.S. measures to protect the U.S. embassy in Stockholm and U.S. personnel.
The purpose of the preliminary investigation is that, first, investigating whether crimes were committed, and clarify who or who has committed a crime (if crime has been committed).
The preliminary investigation will be conducted by the Security Service under the direction of Tomas Lindstrand, chief prosecutor at the Public Prosecutor's Office for National Security.
Now there is confidentiality of investigations into the matter. Therefore, the Security Service or Tomas Lindstrand not give more details at present.
Prosecutors are reviewing the U.S. surveillance on Swedish citizens
No one - neither the government nor SAPO - knew that the suspects were photographed and registered - On Friday it emerged that the U.S. embassy has conducted covert surveillance in Sweden since 2000.
Det är enligt 13 § PuL förbjudet att behandla "känsliga personuppgifter" som avslöjar
1.etniskt ursprung,
2.politiska åsikter,
3.religiös eller filosofisk övertygelse, eller
4.medlemskap i fackförening.
Det är också förbjudet att behandla sådana personuppgifter som rör hälsa eller sexualliv.
Lagen gäller för personuppgiftsansvariga som är etablerade i Sverige. Lagen tillämpas också när den personuppgiftsansvarige är etablerad i icke-EU-land men för behandlingen av personuppgifter använder sig av utrustning som finns i Sverige. Med personuppgiftsansvarig avses den som ensam eller tillsammans med andra bestämmer ändamålen med och medlen för behandlingen av personuppgifter i enlighet med 3 § personuppgiftslagen (1998:204).
Bad google translation:
It is according to § 13 PDA forbidden to process "sensitive personal data" that reveals
1.ethnic origin,
2.political views
3.religious or philosophical beliefs, or
4.membership in a union.
It is also prohibited to process personal data concerning health or sex life.
The law also applies when the controller is established in non-EU country but for the processing of personal data makes use of equipment located in Sweden. With the personal data provided on that alone or jointly with others determines the purposes and means of processing of personal data in accordance with § 3 Personal Data Act (1998:204).
In Sweden, (as in most countries) , the legal system and government are separated. It is called “a constitutional government”. A Swedish minister does not have any powers at all to affect a court case. Period. They don’t even have the constitutional right to make decisions in their departments own field of administration with regard to administrative cases involving citizens - that is called “ministerial interference” and is explicitly forbidden in the Swedish constitution. The rule is there to PREVENT politicians bending the law against (or for) individual citizens.
The rule is there to PREVENT politicians bending the law against (or for) individual citizens.
The rule is there to PREVENT politicians bending the law against (or for) individual citizens.
Lay judges to the District Court are appointed by the City Council and lay to Court of Appeals, administrative law and Appeal are appointed by the county council, in all cases for a period of four years, in connection with the general election. The recruitment of lay judges is done by the political parties represented in the council, why most of the jurors are members of one party.
Lay judges are completely equal with the legally qualified judges - all have their own individual voice and all involved in all decisions that law should take. Lay judges are also entitled to attach reservations with reasons for appeal. This is different jurors from the jury members who are in many other countries, which initially often only involved in criminal cases, and then usually only take a stand on conviction, while the judge determines the sentence. However, the jury in some countries also determine penalty. In Sweden, the jury only in the freedom of the press.
Lay judges are laymen who, together with one or more legally qualified magistrate judge in court. Lay judges have in various ways contributed to the judicial function of the law, that is, the district courts and their predecessors County District and town hall dishes for hundreds of years. Nowadays, there lay also in the Court of Appeals, administrative law (former county), Appeal and the land court. Lay judges are involved, however, not the Supreme Court and the Supreme Administrative Court, and not in some special courts-market and the Labour Court.
Judges in Sweden are commissioned, meaning that they are virtually impossible to fire. They have this protection under the Constitution. There is no way a politician/minister or even the judges own administrative boss can affect the judges salary, working hours or anything similar. Judges in Sweden are not subject to pressure from politicians – anyone who has the slightest inside knowledge about the Swedish system knows this
Your claims that Swedish politicians, due to Wiki leaks, will try to affect the legal system is nothing but guess work. Uneducated guess work.
Originally posted by BigTimeCheater
Originally posted by AntiCitizenZone
reply to post by S3ns1bl3
My lack of logic is your opinion your entitled to it.
I must say your crimes against spelling almost rival that of Assange!
If you are going to attack someones spelling, it would help your cause greatly if you spelled "you're" correctly.
Why would you state you think someone should be charged with something they simply cannot be charged with?
Originally posted by AntiCitizenZone
If your going to TROLL, know the difference between a spelling, and a gramar mistake.
Asking me why I would state I think someone should be charged with something they simply cannot be charged with is like asking me why would I wish for something! Get a grip Troll!
I see that you can no longer have a discussion on here without some one going over the top and insulting you, or replying totaly off-topicedit on 8-12-2010 by AntiCitizenZone because: (no reason given)