Would legalizing all drugs end all the murders and crimes?

Hmm, it may help some, but to think it would stop all crime and murder is naive to say the least.... Not all crime is drug related. Not all murder is related to drugs....

It may stop the drug war for a while, but even that would pick back up probably with people fighting over who has control over the now legal distribution of the drugs....

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Wow, thank you - I have always thought this to be true. Thank you for confirming!

It would definitely end a lot of violence..

I don't know where you're from but here in U.S. you go to prison for pretty much all drug related charges.. Instead of fixing the problem, they are making it worse, by having people with a drug problem become corrupted and manipulated by the truly evil people..

The money spent (*ahem* supposed to be spent) on imprisoning them could be spent on rehab centers to find the cause of the problem..

When i was in school, i was an extremely bad kid; fighting, stealing, you name it.. I got sent to hella councilors and anger councilors but instead of finding out why i did the things i did, everyone would punish me, which in turn would piss me off, which would result in more broken faces/walls..

When i was doing bad back then, i would think that "They" didn't want me or anyone to get better.. They just wanted us to live in this cycle of broken homes and drugs..

Sorry about the rant, just hits close to home...

To finalize: we don't need to legalize drugs, just have better support systems to deal with drug addiction; instead of "getting rid of them" like we are doing now..

We are people, too..

Originally posted by Misoir
Why is this illegal at all? So long as people are not selling to minors or is harming anyone else than I don’t see why it is illegal.

How about if someone's reaction to taking a certain drug increases the likelihood of that person causing harm to another ?

We're talking about chemical reactions here, and just as someone who drinks a lot of alcohol may pose a number of problems in a social situation, then many illegal drugs may ( and do ) cause similar problems.


Is there any hypothetical negative side-effect of a drug or plant that someone may take, that those who like to go on about ''freedom'' would acknowledge as a potential danger to other members of the public ?

it wouldnt stop all crime but it would definatly reduce it and pretty much destroy the black market. also it would cripple many gangs

Originally posted by onequestion
Secrecy. Most of the violence is over deals gone bad, and lack of secrecy.

Secrecy is a fundamental part of buying illegal alcohol and cigarettes ( bearing in mind that smuggling these items is a prisonable offence ).

I don't see how it's much different to illegal drugs.

Whine and complain about things that have always been here........

That is what keeps things the way you enjoy whining and complaining about,the way they are..........

What are YOU gonna do?,nobody but you is able,or responsible.

I think everything should be legal. People should have control of what they want to put in their body.

I would love to get my hands on some ayahuasca.

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When i say secrecy, i mean rating people out.

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When i say secrecy, i mean rating people out.

Originally posted by suigeneris
Most of the people in your county jails are there because they USE a drug. That is what they are there for. Look at the statistics.

I'm not from the US.

I believe that the crime is something along the lines of ''possession of an illegal substance''.

The people in gaol were well aware of the laws before they were convicted and imprisoned, so I have little sympathy for them.


I may be wrong, but I don't think there's a law that prohibits taking the drugs; only possessing and supplying them.

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Everything was legal at one time.

People here became too irresponsible to deal with it.

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If they violate another person’s rights or person then they must be punished by the law. If you try and keep something illegal because using it you might increase the chances of harming another person that is not a truly legitimate reason to ban something.

When I drive a car my chances of harming another person increases drastically and I know this so why not ban that? It will prevent injury to others correct?

I do not support prevention I support liberty. If they break the law they are punished. Very simple.

I don't think the government care two hoots about what illegal drugs do to the individual or to the community. They do, however, care about the huge amounts of money that fills the drug dealer's pockets.

Smoking, for example, could easily be banned. Sure it would drive a few to the black market but it would also be a massive aid for those who wish to quit.

The PTB also care deeply about tooth decay. Thanks for the flouride.

That little bag of grass is one of the few truly organic things left one can buy. If drugs were legallised, they would probably be in pill form and full of all sort of poisons.

There is nothing wrong with drugs. Abuse is the problem.

Peace

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Ok, I see what you mean.
Legalising any drug won't stop the ''war'' that surrounds the illicit trade of that substance.

I've already pointed out that legal drugs, such as alcohol and cigarettes, are still widely smuggled by gangs, who are looking to make a profit by supplying tax-free versions of a highly taxed product.

No, I don't think it would. People that are criminals will simply find other ways cheat the law. Why not get loaded and drive 120? Why not get wasted and rob someone?

What makes you think a mind that is disposed to making money by exploiting the dependencies of others is going to stop those acts if you take one of the ways in which he/she can achieve that?

Hey, it would drastically reduce competitiveness in job markets though, so go for it!

With everyone getting the signal that it's ok now, wave after wave of people will "just try it" and a good percentage of those will become addicts. Judging by the crowd I ran with high school and shortly there after, most will suffer consequences that they do not foresee and do not believe could happen to them.

What if they showed that show "Intervention" to grade school children? or "Requiem of a Dream"

I think that would drastically cut down drug use..........

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i agree with you. we need to move toward some kind of legalization. but, fo realz, some people are ridiculous with their almost worship of pot. anytime you're inhaling smoke that is not good for you, lol. and being high all the time does not make you more social or productive, lol.

it would end some measure of crime after a while. but all murder and crime? hell no. infact there might be a temporary spike in crime as criminals who were making their living selling and moving drugs have to turn to some other crimes to make their living.

Originally posted by Misoir
If they violate another person’s rights or person then they must be punished by the law. If you try and keep something illegal because using it you might increase the chances of harming another person that is not a truly legitimate reason to ban something.

By your argument, I could justifiably create a nuclear bomb plant in my back garden.

After all, this nuclear bomb wouldn't be intended to harm other people, the construction of it was only for my own personal use...

Originally posted by Misoir
When I drive a car my chances of harming another person increases drastically and I know this so why not ban that? It will prevent injury to others correct?

Because cars and motor vehicles serve a practical purpose; drugs do not.

Originally posted by Misoir
I do not support prevention I support liberty. If they break the law they are punished. Very simple.

I don't mean this personally, but I've been reading threads on ATS for about 6 months, and I've noticed that there are always people from the USA going on about ''freedom'' and ''liberty'', regardless of the consequences that this personal ''freedom'' and ''liberty'' may have on other people.

The USA - in actuality - is the antithesis of freedom, so stop going on about it, when everyone else in the world can see that you sold out decades ago, and Americans continually go on about ''freedom'', despite the fact that they lost that ability many years ago.