Are Casino "Coolers" real?

There are a lot of rumors around that Casinos employ "coolers". It is said that when someone is having a winning-streak, that a "cooler" is sent in to spread a bad-luck-vibe and to "cool things down". I also heard a Rumor that, decades ago, the Nevada gaming Commission banned such practices and that ever since then Casinos are using Coolers secretly.

If Coolers are real I suppose that when Millions and Billions of Dollars are involved, what is normally regarded as "superstitious" becomes very real and very important.

But it is really hard to find any information on this. Anybody out there know more?

Interesting...

I'll bet that when there is a lot of money involved, people will do anything for damage control.
It must be true.

reply to post by Sinter Klaas

yes we gamblers call them mocks

Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
Interesting...

I'll bet that when there is a lot of money involved, people will do anything for damage control.
It must be true.

I'd bet 2 to 1 against you..

There was a movie called The Cooler a few years ago. It had William H Macy and that was what he did. He was like a really, really unlucky person. But I don't know if the movie was based on a true story or not.

Haha, Indeed a cooler is a profitable person to have on your floor; but "bad vibes" is nowhere close to what they produce.

They quite literally will buy you out on any chance they get, using the casino's money of course. Their job is to make sure you lose, depending upon the game. Some games it is impossible for them to have any effect, but these games usually don't need to be cooled down.

Maybe I could be employed as a "heater" and spread my good luck for all the gamblers for a small share of their winnings.

If the casinos kicked up a fuss they'd have no right to complain...tit for tat.

I would probably end up in a dumpster though seeing as the industry is run by the mafia.

I make my own luck.

Saw that movie btw....cool, (Spoiler Alert!!!!!....his luck did change in the end.)

reply to post by Skyfloating


Possible, also microwaving people would destroy there lucky period, cough cough. They know already.

You people never understand that microwaving people would have same affect. Sports teams already know this.

reply to post by Skyfloating
Hiya Sky. Casinos don't need to pay attention to 'luck' as they've had the math nailed for centuries. Modern casinos can predict their long-term profit margins to an error of only decimal places. 'House edge' is predictable across all the games with casinos generally working within margins of 2-5% profit on poker, blackjack, slots etc. Wheel of Fortune games run at 30%

A few years ago there was a successful fraud against a South African casino. The owners only noticed when their profits took a decimal percentage point dip.

There's no accounting for the actions of some owners who might also lean on superstition as a psychological lever to unsettle the professional gamblers.

reply to post by Kandinsky


Absolutely.

Just to add, the win/loss is determined strictly by traffic and the dollar level of play.

However, the pit boss (pit manager nowadays) is more or less "accountable" for win/loss in his or her pit. They also have the easiest job; after dealer, and have more time for involvement in the goings-on in their pit.
They may signal the dealer directly, or through the floorperson, convey their wish that something change. The worst ones will actually cause a disruption themselves, while another may just demand faster or slower play, or a change in the dealer's technique, which often changes the outcome.
The best pit managers will be very aware and will mostly be concerned with the integrity of the game.
The same goes for those at the levels of casino manager and above. They know that the "win" is built in.

You, as a player, and the dealer(s), have the largest effect on your luck. You'd be amazed how much the right attitude will affect your "luck".

Originally posted by smokingman2006
we gamblers call them mocks

Could you tell more about "mocks"? Never heard of them. Info is scarce.

Then again, there's this guy:

Eddie Mush was a degenerate gambler.

He was the world's biggest loser.

He was "Mush" because everything he touched turned to mush.

Never mind. I need a winner.

At the track, the teller would give him his tickets ripped up.

I had the Yankees. They lost.

If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all.

Come on. We've been "mushed."

A Bronx Tale

Coolers are no longer used in the large casinos. The Cooler is a relic from days gone by. The large Casino works from the math of odds.

Let me bore you with a couple of first hand experiences, to relay how the casnio now move the odds futher in to their favor.

Playing blackjack at $25 dollar table. For hours me a 3 other guys (strangers) have been playing, up and down, normal game, bets ranging from $25 to $100 a hand, none of us winning or losing much, just normal. An Asian guy comes up and cashs-in $10,000.Same dealer, same type of game, but bets around the table go up to $300 to $1000 a hand, which we now have the pit boss undevided attention. Pit boss changes dealers and with in 15 minutes the new dealer "Cleans" the table. Was the new dealer cheating? Don't know but what I do know is had we kept the same dealers we have had prior it would have been the same game, UPs and Down, winning and Loseing for hours on end. I will say this I have never played blackjack again and this happened over 15 years ago.

After my blackjack experience I sarted playing Craps only. I was playing one time at a full table, table seemed a little "cold" so I started laying odds on the Don't Come side. Started winng, winning big, Pit boss interupted the game by wanting to Comp me and my girlfriend to a steak dinner, room, etc. He stood beside me and kept a conversation going, a distraction. He finally had my girlfriend saying lets go get some steak, So I cashed out. Went to dinner, when I returned to the table my winnig streak was over. Now this was my fault, I sould have not allowed the Pit Boss to have become such a distraction.

Coolers, not today, but the Casino does use "Tactics" to cool you off.

I get the impression that if a lot of money is involved those responsible for keeping the money do suddenly factor in the "paranormal".

i bet 1 dollar i loose 1 dollar
fellow next to me looses 150 dollars

it makes me smile

yes , its very possible , i used to do it for fun

never been paid for it

reply to post by zerbot565


They do at least in a superstitious sense. I dealt blackjack in international waters for a bit and it was done just to shake things up & try to force some kind of change on some 'streaks'. We didn't have a particular cooler though, just any hink in the roll was considered enough. It is funny to note, however, how some dealers were considered consistently unlucky or lucky by management.

Originally posted by The GUT
reply to post by zerbot565

 

They do at least in a superstitious sense. I dealt blackjack in international waters for a bit and it was done just to shake things up & try to force some kind of change on some 'streaks'. We didn't have a particular cooler though, just any hink in the roll was considered enough. It is funny to note, however, how some dealers were considered consistently unlucky or lucky by management.

Thats interesting. Thanks for sharing. So you guys felt that people really did have streaks in the sense of some kind of Momentum?

reply to post by Skyfloating


False. I used to be an investigator in the casinos

Do you people not know that micowaving someone has the same effect. Research it.

Originally posted by surfnow2

False. I used to be an investigator in the casinos

Well, your word against other Casino-employees word.

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So did you investigate whether there was foul play happening?