What person currently is controlling the alien situation?

Originally posted by wayouttheredude
reply to post by DisturbedToo

 

What one person in our country has the most control over our captured or crashed alien discs,alive and deceased aliens we house, decisions regarding how to use the alien technology,our interactions with alien civilizations,and when the best time for disclosure is.

To be fair I did not expect an answer since the question I thought was not well formed by the OP. No one can know the answer to this question and be someone allowed to even talk with the public. That means of course that any answer to this question is going to be strictly rhetorical in nature. That of course means it can have no real voracity and there for no real value for serious discussion. Just trying to cut to the chase.

stick the Adolf remark where the Sun does not shine if you want to be rude here OP. My question was fair considering your question was weak to say the least.

goodnight adolf

are you still here? You still seem irrelevant to me. You said good night so why do you remain here? I am here until at least 2 am central time. Good night to you one with a weak question and no answer to discuss with intelligent adults. Perhaps it is your bed time and this is just that crying babies do when they should be asleep.

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This is further proof you didnt die in germany by gunshot.You sure lived a long life.You better not show your face,being wanted for all those war crimes.

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Are you serious OP? This is the level of your intellectual discourse? Why not just go to bed and finish high school in the morning with the rest of the children.

reply to post by wayouttheredude


My guees is your down in south america in that german compound.I hear its very tight security.Have you remarried?You have to be pushing 110 now.It must be all the native south american botanical herbs your growing.

Originally posted by brindle
What one person in our country has the most control over our captured or crashed alien discs,alive and deceased aliens we house, decisions regarding how to use the alien technology,our interactions with alien civilizations,and when the best time for disclosure is.I have some solid ideas,but i would like to hear some opinions to see if they align with my thoughts.

Well, since you asked the questions you are obviously not a skeptic. I am and I'm skeptical that any of the questions you asked have a positive answer. No captured or crashed alien discs. No aliens of any kind in any state. No decisions 'cause there's no alien technology. No interactions with non-humans. Disclosure? Nothing to disclose that is not known alread. Your thoughts are believersville so only believers will align.

Originally posted by The Shrike

Originally posted by brindle
What one person in our country has the most control over our captured or crashed alien discs,alive and deceased aliens we house, decisions regarding how to use the alien technology,our interactions with alien civilizations,and when the best time for disclosure is.I have some solid ideas,but i would like to hear some opinions to see if they align with my thoughts.

Well, since you asked the questions you are obviously not a skeptic. I am and I'm skeptical that any of the questions you asked have a positive answer. No captured or crashed alien discs. No aliens of any kind in any state. No decisions 'cause there's no alien technology. No interactions with non-humans. Disclosure? Nothing to disclose that is not known alread. Your thoughts are believersville so only believers will align.

I only believe what thousands of credible people tell happened.Over 200 credible roswell witnesses testify that they were witness to a crashed alien disc and 1 alive alien and some dead aliens.These were career military men at the highest ranking military facility in the world.Do you dispute there testimony?

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Your singular argument to an intelligent argument is to do these you are a Nazi because you oppose me shenanigans. I am done with this juvenile non debate by an obvious intellectual novice non player.

I believe military responsible for retrieving crashed ufos and any vicitms would be the Air Force/ Navy... Somehow the NAVY is intertwined in this. I believe that no ONE person has control, I believe one person might have to most influence but I believe it is more like a council, The Cheif of D.O.D, and the Head of the CIA, all those higher up guys that influence the political structure and maybe even some SUPER wealthy people that fund most of these things would be in the know... The one poster said the Vatican and I do believe they too have connections to all this as well as China (seeming as 3 ufos have closed down its airports during the spring and summer of this year...) I do believe disclosure is coming, but it will come from scientist and researchers before it comes from the government. The scientist and researchers that do come forth with such evidence will be ridiculed and made out to look like wack jobs, but the people are smarter then that. I honestly dont know how much more proof people need though, from Astronauts, to Military personel, and Scientist that have been contracted through he government have come forward, even some eye witness Contactee's have come forward and are made to be laughing stocks, I dont believe everyone who claims to be a contactee, actually is, but you can get a general feeling who is being honest and who isnt. I personally like Alex Collier, and Billy Meier...

reply to post by wayouttheredude


Are you some sort of karate guy?You remind me of somebody trying to break a stack of cinderblocks with one swipe.Consider some self control.

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I also believe that the most powerful person in charge here is a person of extreme wealth.I believe george bush senior was one of the top 3 decision makers at one point.

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Why don't you consider rising to the level of the debate and quit your wining and hand wringing. Bring your argument or shut the heck up. You got an opinion on this topic you opened up or not? If you are fishing for information and have nothing just say so. I am interested in this topic since it has effected me my whole life. I would like to hear your honest opinion of who you think is in control since I have some questions for them. If you are just fishing for them I would like to know that as well. What is it?

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Well if that is one of the top 3 that is some information at least. I do not disagree with you since I have followed this guy and have actually shook his hand long before he was president. My feeling when I shook Bush senior's hand when I was like 16 was that this man had the death of others on his hands. I did not delve deeper at that time but always suspected him of evil doings.

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George bush senior was surrounded by a few other men who,had the monopoly on the oil and energy coming in and out of this country.With this free energy these alien craft have,they need complete control over everything alien technology related or the oil and energy business is extinct and so is the profits.My guees is that a person involved with haliburton could be calling the shots,but not alone.These decisions are made after meetings with maybe a dozen or so people.My thoughts are that there between 10 -20 people are in the loop where nobody else ever sees.I think the rights to these technologies were sold at one point,and wound up in the hands of a certain group.I think they were sold to a group of people who were in the right place at the right time,and who had access to the money to buy them.

Originally posted by wayouttheredude
Why do you think anyone on ATS would have a definitive answer to this question and further why would they admit this knowledge if they did? It is not a stupid question just one that has zero likelihood of being answered in a definitive manner by a credible source.

Well let me take a shot at it

If I had to put money on who would know it would be Dr Howard (Hal) Puthoff. I think a few others will agree

Hal Puthoff's name comes up so many times in stuff I research that I am beginning to think he is to me like the smoking man is to Fox Mulder

Smoking man



Hal Puthoff



I would say Dang good casting job

Just look him up.. Remote Viewing, Project Stargate, Zero Point Energy, Anti Gravity, The Aviary, Propulsion Research, Skin Walker Ranch, Robert Bigelow connection, Roswell, Cold Fusion, Alternate Energy... the list goes on... you will find him everywhere. Just pick a term and add his name


Here are a few examples..

"(An entry from an article in a CIA publication that includes the name of a CIA department): Hal Puthoff and Russell Targ brief senior CIA officials at CIA Headquarters in Langley, Virginia on their remote viewing research."
educationforum.ipbhost.com...

"Dr. Harold E. Puthoff is Director of the Institute for Advanced Studies"
www.earthtech.org...
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THE AVIARY ALERT: Here is a list of some of the members of the ...
Oct 11, 2010 ... HAL PUTHOFF - Owl JACQUES VALEE - Partridge JACK VORONA - Raven
peacepink.ning.com...:Comment:51477?xg_source=activity

Project Stargate
In 1972 Dr. Hal Puthoff, a physicist at SRI-International, ... In 1995, after the Stargate Project had been disclosed to the public,
www.abovetopsecret.com...

In 1967, Puthoff earned a Ph.D. from Stanford University

Puthoff is well known within gravitational physics circles[attribution needed] for his papers on polarizable vacuum (PV) and stochastic electrodynamics topics, which are examples of alternative approaches to general relativity and quantum mechanics.

In the 70s and 80s he directed a CIA/DIA-funded program at SRI International to investigate paranormal abilities,

Puthoff has invented and worked with tunable lasers and electron beam devices, concerning which he holds patents, and he is co-author (with R. Pantell) of Fundamentals of Quantum Electronics (Wiley, 1969), published in English, French and Russian.

Puthoff was once a United States Navy officer who was assigned to the National Security Agency (NSA),

Puthoff has held high-level security clearances with the United States government

In 1985, Puthoff founded a for-profit company, EarthTech International in Austin, TX.[citation needed] At about the same time, he founded an academically-oriented scientific research organization, Institute for Advanced Studies at Austin (IASA),[citation needed] also in Austin, TX, where he is Director. Independent of the Institute for Advanced Study in Princeton, NJ, IASA pursues more focused research on topics specifically related to energy generation and space propulsion, with funding from anonymous donors.

Puthoff joined the Church of Scientology in the late 1960s and reached the top OT VII level by 1971. Puthoff wrote up his "wins" for a Scientology publication, claiming to have achieved "remote viewing" abilities.[4] In 1974, Puthoff also wrote a piece for Scientology's Celebrity magazine, stating that Scientology had given him "a feeling of absolute fearlessness".[5] Puthoff severed all connection with Scientology in the late '70's.[6]

Currently, Puthoff is the CEO of a privately funded research organization called EarthTech International. This organization is dedicated to the exploration of new frontiers in physics. The activities of EarthTech primarily center around investigations into various aspects of the Zero-point field. Among its technical activities EarthTech evaluates claims of devices (so called "over-unity" devices) that are said to release more energy, presumably extracted from the ambient Zero Point electromagnetic field, than they consume from conventional power sources.[7]

en.wikipedia.org...

Look up Majestic 12 + Hal Puthoff and he is there
Look up Roswell + Hal Puthoff and he is there
Look up Anti Gravity + Hal Puthoff and he is there

If ANYONE has the inside knowledge... it is this man

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Well I do not disagree with you on that assessment. Free energy and cheap fusion technologies have both been kept out of the market by the very people who's profits it would disrupt. I wrote a book about this in my youth. People acting like they were the FBI went to the house of one of the people I was discussing this with over the internet who had a piece f the technology I needed. They thought I had sent him plans for a UFO engine design. Their facts were not straight but it scared the crap out of that guy and he never spoke to me again for 10+ years. They do have control of the intelligence and police services and will take anything that bothers them from any citizen. There is no legal recourse either since they invoke national security to protect their crimes of theft.

It would not be our Government managing the project. Our Government couldn't manage anything.

If they did indeed exist a Corporation would have been delegated to manage them overseen by a project manager/military officer.

Corporations exist to make lots of money. Who's thrown out the most technology over the last few years?

Nobody really. The technology we have isn't really "out of this world". Hence aliens/ufo's are not on our soil.

Otherwise somebody would have used the technology to make money with it. Nobody has.

Hence they don't exist. I laugh when people think our Government could manage such a task. They can't manage squat without screwing it up. Then again maybe they DID have aliens and ufo's but destroyed them when some idiot Naval Officer project manager said to cut something open with a blow torch and ended up burning the whole ufo up. Now that I would believe.

The general picture you get in 'The Day After Roswell' is that nobody really seems to be in control, at least of Roswell or other early crash retrievals. All of the US forces seem to have bits, and there is a lot of fighting for control over them. But then this was supposed to happen in the 60's, and i'm guessing there would have been reform passed in secret for the holding and reinventing of EBE technology and biological matter.

If what Philip J. Corso wrote was fiction, then it's anybody's guess.

Originally posted by brindle
What one person ....

George Adamski. He is alive and well and living inside our hollow Earth.

Occasionally he pops out of the hole at the North Pole (sometimes the South) in his micro-saucer and often has fun buzzing Steven Greer's CSETI field trips and James Gilliland's ranch. He's held off doing it for a while, though, as he's suffering cataracts due to all those pesky lasers being shone in his eyes. When his eyes are healed he plans to turn up in the mother of all mother ships and abduct Greer and Gilliland and subject them to some serious probing. "They'll have holes bigger than those at the poles when I'm done," he muttered as he applied his vril eyedrops.

I thought every credible UFO researcher knew this!

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By "the Council of Nine," are you referring to Michael Aquino and his NSA Lieutenants? It would surprise me if those clowns had any influence whatsoever.