Nostradamus is a fake.

I have seen so many show on Nostradamus that my head is going to explode. How can anyone give him any credence to being a real prophet. I have seen everything that the History Channel can throw at me and I find his prophecies laughable.

He has a thousand quatrains that people of our time manipulate into current events.

Even Jim Marrs considers his work to be valuable

I tried to keep any open mind but I think it is all a bunch of hooey

Sorry for the rant but I just had to get it out there.

Originally posted by copper5661
How can anyone give him any credence to being a real prophet.

Because people who believe in "prophets" are deluded from the start.

And shame on the History Channel for promoting paranormal sensationalism when they could be broadcasting, oh, you know... things about history.

Most persons of this type in history are over hyped and false. Blame the media.

"Middle century prophet is waste of time" doesn't make good tv. "Man is perhaps psychic; bends spoon with mind" on the other hand . . .

reply to post by copper5661
it is sad to see that the history channel, has perverted him in such a light, for if you read his book"Nostradamus and his prophecies" you will see a much clearer view, or see the video "man who saw tomorrow" 1981 so yes it is vhs, no dvd as of yet, but that should help see things clearer, i my self after seeing the dvd set, it too left a bad taste in my mouth.

What is the deal with the history channel? It's all UFO, Bigfoot, and 2012. don't get me wrong, i love it, but i wonder what their agenda is.

It's either a form of slow disclosure

or a disinfo tactic.....i hope it is the former

as for nostredamus...it seems that his prophecies only come true in hindsight

Meh. As far as prophets and prophecies go... Nostradamus is as interesting as the others. Treat him like a fictional character and he makes for great conversation and thought provocation.

In the long run, anything that gets people actually thinking can't be a bad thing.

~Heff

i would like to ask you all, one thing about him do you know the story about the white and black pig? Or his walk when he met the young pope?

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you got your info from the TV
and you are ranting that Nostradamus is fake?

the TV can't even report today's news accurately

What I find interesting about the Nostradamus debate is the history there. If you lay aside the prophecies, he was still a very interesting historical figure. As a physician, he was one of the few that had been able to cure people who suffered from the black plague (although sadly, not his own family). The Inquisition pursued him heavily for a time, and somehow he actually managed to gain the trust of Catharine De Medici.

On the subject of his prophesies. I think many of the quatrains that pertained to his lifetime were spot on. After all, the reason he did become some close to Catharine was precisely because of the quatrain that dealt with the death of Loius.

Nostradamus is a hoax!
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urbanlegends.about.com...
globalpsychics.com...

And this about Hitler:
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www.skepdic.com...

Perhaps there are some interesting quatrains out there, but most of it, can be reserved for cocktail talk or internet chatter.

Originally posted by traditionaldrummer

Originally posted by copper5661
How can anyone give him any credence to being a real prophet.

Because people who believe in "prophets" are deluded from the start.

And shame on the History Channel for promoting paranormal sensationalism when they could be broadcasting, oh, you know... things about history.

Do you even know what the word history means?

reply to post by Violater1

well i am one of the die hard believers, i will stand by his writings, i think that most who try to disprove him as a fraud, fake are just scared to admit that one can see tomarrow, or in case, centurys.

Originally posted by seedofchucky
Do you even know what the word history means?

Yes. And indeed, Nostradamus is a celebrated historical figure. Though tell me what percentage of any H.C. Nostradamus shows are about the historicity of Nostradamus and how much is simply paranormal sensationalism.

Originally posted by bekod
i think that most who try to disprove him as a fraud, fake are just scared to admit that one can see tomarrow, or in case, centurys.

I'd be glad to admit such a thing if there were evidence of it. Nostradamus', or any alleged prophets' "visions" are intentionally vague and can be easily applied to nearly any event in any time period. Nostradamus' "predictions" for last century are so dismal that believers are forced to pretend things such as "Hister" really meant "Hitler". Also, it's funny how Nostradamus himself failed to predict the multi-million dollar industry that sprung up surrounding his "prophecies".

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It's all about ratings my friend.
Ratings and money.
That's their agenda, that's every channel's agenda.

He might be a fake.

But how can you say for sure what "fake" is without knowing, with absolute certainty, what is "real"?

reply to post by traditionaldrummer
he him self was not after money but to warn us the future gen's about what the future holds, he saw the darkest so as we could prevent it or tell us them that know what is to come, to be ready for it, one must know the stars the french and the way he did his writing, i will admit not all make sense as of yet or have little as to every day life but most are, as too Hister, it refers to the Danube river, and how the nazi came to power, shot version, the thing one has to remember, at his time it was a no no to write such thins as to up set the church, he was a doctor, a seer and a prophet what was Paul?

Originally posted by bekod
what was Paul?

Paul was the walrus

In my opinion Nostradamus was writing about things in his own time, not ours. And again, there is no evidence that anyone can "see into the future". Though if a psychic wins the lottery over and over again my mind may change on the matter.

funny thing about his predictions is that they can interpret to mean anything. they're very vauge and ambiguous. you can even interpret it to say "the giant spaghetti monster is going to eat this planet on 2012" lol

Originally posted by xiphias
He might be a fake.

But how can you say for sure what "fake" is without knowing, with absolute certainty, what is "real"?

I think there's a certain point where you can deconstruct reality into utter confusion.

Based on most people's interpretations of reality Nostradamus's work is vague poetry at best.