Timeline Tracker: Trying to Keep a Record. Input Needed

Time lines seem to be crossing for many of us. Things we have been so sure about, now suddenly have become questionable. It is becoming a bit nerve racking to say the least. Some memories seem to go back years ago, and others more recent as a few months ago.

I know I have read many threads around here on ATS about people recalling someone had died only to find out later they hadn't. A couple of examples, Nelson Mandela, and Billy Graham. I know many more have been mentioned but that list would be long.

I know one for me just recently was Ed Asner from the Mary Tyler Moore shows. My wife and I both thought so, but nope, he just had a birthday which I happened to hear on the radio.

The purpose of this thread is to keep a little record on deaths so we know that it happened in at least some time line for a fact, because we wrote it here.

So for now on, we will at least have it as fact somewhere that these famous persons died on such and such a day, and maybe a link to where it was documented in the news or online. Maybe we can somehow get a handle on this, or at least some sort of proof time lines are actually changing.

Maybe if you folks can think of other things we could keep track of as well, by all means add it to this soup.

Just make sure you add something from today 11-30-10 or no more then a week ago onward so we have a clean record that matches up.

It doesn't have to be famous people, but anything you think might be important. Maybe someone should take a picture of the current world map as well since New Zealand seems to be moving around on folks as well.
With diligence we might actually catch something here. Can't hurt to try right?

I am going to start this with Leslie Nielsen as a starting point and because it was in the news yesterday.

Leslie Nielsen dies 11-28-10

Just thought I would add this director Irvin Kershner as well. He directed a Star wars sequel and also a James Bond movie to name a couple.

Irvin Kershner dies 11-27-10

A friend and I both clearly remembered Nelson Mandela being murdered while in jail, in '89 or '90.
I even remember walking by the tv as the news story came on and feeling saddened for the loss of a good man.

What about Abe Vigoda? Might be getting mixed up, thought he left us a few years ago, and he's in a tv commercial for some food product.

Slightly off topic -? I just saw a promo photo for Don Rickles who was doing casino stops - he looks like he did in 1956. I know plastic surgery can work wonders, but...

Good call to start a reference point for this.

Originally posted by ItsEvolutionBaby
A friend and I both clearly remembered Nelson Mandela being murdered while in jail, in '89 or '90.
I even remember walking by the tv as the news story came on and feeling saddened for the loss of a good man.

What about Abe Vigoda? Might be getting mixed up, thought he left us a few years ago, and he's in a tv commercial for some food product.

Slightly off topic -? I just saw a promo photo for Don Rickles who was doing casino stops - he looks like he did in 1956. I know plastic surgery can work wonders, but...

Good call to start a reference point for this.

Thanks, I hope more folks help or join in. I remember Abe Vigoda dying as well. I know this is just the tip of the iceberg as they say. It just seems to me to many people are experiencing this and that is why I want to try and start a record of it somewhere so we can know For A Fact something shifted or changed. It might take awhile,but I think it might be worth it in the long run.

Something else I have always been curious about which we might see proven here as well is the "Things Happen in Threes." We will be able to see how often that happens too. If that is the case, we are due for one more very very soon. I know people die everyday, dont get me wrong, but it is the time frame Im thinking about. The above two were a day apart, so for the "threes" to happen, it would probably have to be today or tomorrow or so for that theory. If it is a little later we might be able to establish a better time frame at least, oddly enough, over time.

Im trying to think of other things we could keep track of as well to maybe find another type of time line change. Any suggestions?

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One thing I would suggest is to save the contents of the page reporting said deaths, as well as the link.

Ok, so we now have our three. The news of this one wasn't released until yesterday 12-01-10, but they put his death for Sunday which would have been 11-28-10. So that is three very close together. No big deal really, just noting it actually. Not names many would really remember yet except for Leslie N maybe, but Ill keep trying to keep track!

Samuel T. Cohen, inventor of the neutron bomb, dies at 89
Posted on Wed, Dec. 01, 2010 06:54 PM
By THOMAS H. MAUGH II
Los Angeles Times

Samuel T. Cohen, the father of the controversial tactical nuclear weapon known as the neutron bomb, which was designed to kill people and other living things but inflict minimal damage on buildings and other property, died Sunday at his home in Brentwood on the west side of Los Angeles. He was 89 and died two weeks after the removal of a cancerous tumor from his stomach, according to his son Paul. Read more: www.kansascity.com...

FULL STORY

AWESOME idea for a thread, b/c I thought a few of the above mentioned had died as well. MSM actually reported that Nelson Mandela died. Then the later (not sure how long after) said they were mistaken... huh?!?!

Here's one that creeps me out... Michael Crichton. See, one day my husband told me about an author dying. I didn't recognize the name, so I said "I'm just glad it wasn't Michael Crichton!" The next day he died.

LINK

John Michael Crichton (rhymes with frighten;[2] October 23, 1942 – November 4, 2008), best known as Michael Crichton, was an American author, producer, director, and screenwriter, best known for his work in the science fiction, medical fiction, and thriller genres. His books have sold over 150 million copies worldwide, and many have been adapted into films. In 1994, Crichton became the only creative artist ever to have works simultaneously charting at #1 in television, film, and book sales (with ER, Jurassic Park, and Disclosure, respectively).[3] His literary works are usually based on the action genre and heavily feature technology. His novels epitomise the techno-thriller genre of literature, often exploring technology and failures of human interaction with it, especially resulting in catastrophes with biotechnology. Many of his future history novels have medical or scientific underpinnings, reflecting his medical training and science background. Among others, he was the author of Jurassic Park, The Andromeda Strain, Congo, Travels, Sphere, Rising Sun, Disclosure, The Lost World, Airframe, Timeline, Prey, State of Fear, Next (the final book published before his death), Pirate Latitudes (published November 24, 2009), and a final unfinished techno-thriller yet to be released.[4] Forbes listed Crichton in tenth place in its list of "Top-Earning Dead Celebrities" of 2009.[5]

Personally, I think they 'took him out' because he was on to something. If you haven't read State of Fear and Next, DO SO!!! Note below the reference to his 'unexpected' death... (source is the same link as above.)

Given the private way in which Crichton lived his life, his battle with throat cancer was not made public until his death. According to Crichton's brother Douglas, Michael was diagnosed with lymphoma in early 2008. He was undergoing chemotherapy treatment at the time of his death. Crichton's physicians and family members had been expecting him to make a recovery. He unexpectedly died of the disease on November 4, 2008. "Michael’s talent outscaled even his own dinosaurs of 'Jurassic Park.' He was the greatest at blending science with big theatrical concepts, which is what gave credibility to dinosaurs again walking the earth. In the early days, Michael had just sold 'The Andromeda Strain' to Robert Wise at Universal and I had recently signed on as a contract TV director there. My first assignment was to show Michael Crichton around the Universal lot. We became friends and professionally 'Jurassic Park,' 'ER,' and 'Twister' followed. Michael was a gentle soul who reserved his flamboyant side for his novels. There is no one in the wings that will ever take his place." —Steven Spielberg on Michael Crichton's death.

We should also document in this thread all of the microbiologists/scientists who have died.

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Thank you for your excellent input. Please by all means add anything you come across. This is for all of us, not like it is just my little pet project. The more input we have the more it may develop into something we weren't even aware of. Lol kind of like a time line science project! And even if we dont discover something "Special" we will at least have a place to come look and say "See? I knew they died at such and such a time!" Then that in itself will be a bit of a wee discovery. And we can say ATS CAUGHT IT!

I meant to post this yesterday but forgot, but since we have 2 now I guess if theory is right a third should be soon.

Anyhow we have Don Meredith who passed Sunday 12-05-10 Link for Story

and we now also have Elizabeth Edwards who died today Tuesday 12-07-10 Link for Story

I don't know about any celebrities or anything, but I do know that sometimes, I know I did something, or know that someone did something, but I or someone really didn't. Could that also be something to do with this? Like I was positive, 100% positive, I remember everything clearly in my mind, and then find out it wasn't true. Quite mysterious actually.

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The last timeline collapse I am aware of was September 2008 when the Wizard of Oz ran two days simultaneously to save his beloved creation on Wall Street,I am aware of Billy Graham dying three times,when a time line collapses virtually all information even peoples memories are overwritten by the new time line,I am an oddity this does not happen with me,now sometimes not all information is overwritten for example if you Google search,"Billy Graham obituary" you may just turn something up-beware of trojans however LOL.

There was this one time, I was awakened at 3:30 (15:30) by my alarm clock, shortly after that I fell asleep again. I later woke to hear my alarm again, and the time was exactly the same as before - 3:30. It was if I had fell into a time vortex or something and then was "restarted" again. I remember that it was so strange, and not my imagination, because of the alarm that was set on my mobile phone. When I think carefully, it could have been a dream that I woke up at 15:30 (I remember waking up, and then looking to the left to my alarm clock), and then in the real world I actually did wake up at 15:30. It was freaky, like groundhog day. Another anomaly was that while at work I was fixing the blade on the boxcutter that I was using. I remember hearing a clanging sound, noticing that the blade fell, I went to pick it up, and then looked to realise that the blade was still in the holder, and I had picked up an entireley different blade (of the same type, with different signs of wear). I asked if it belonged to anyone and no one claimed to have lost a blade. Sort of like a fork in time, with an object repeating itself, like an alternate version of the blade visited me in the future and I picked it up. Another strange experience: I was smoking a cigarette, and I distinctly went to ash it into a concrete pot filled with sand. As I kept walking, a person behind me said "did that guy just put sand in his ear". It was something that I would never had done, but when I scratched my ear there was sand in it. Its like a part of me is malfunctioning or time is malfunctioning, or there are splinters of time and strange alternate versions that are interlacing themselves with this reality. Perhaps the web of time is falling apart in various places.... There are also these "people" - never remember seeing them before, never remember going to school with them, but they just "appeared", like they were from another timeline: I was on my lunch break, and the street around me was empty, no people, no sound. I remember, for a strange reason, I turned around and faced the wall, I remember imagining something, like I had a microsleep. It would have only been a few seconds, but then I heard the sound of people, and when I turned around there were many people walking across the street in different directions, as if either they had appeared there or I had entered an alternate reality. The time from where the street was empty, and the locations of the people walking, given the time that I turned away, would not add up to enough time for people to just have been normally walking across my path, they were just all-of-a-sudden there, in the middle of the street and half-way across the road.

I just want to make it perfectly clear that New Zealand isn't moving anywhere! I live here and I always have done and so I know.
It's just that heaps of people are really bad at geography!
As for Abe Vigoda - his death was reported back in the 80s, but it hadn't happened. He has spoken about the misery these false reports have caused with his career.
Don't add to the misery!
Vicky

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Hi Great thread however I have a suggestion. If timelines are changing then i asume that all content that was once associated with that will also change such as web pages, links etc. Might i suggest that a screen grab (or several) are taken of the website where the article was posted and uploaded as images to further support the story. If there indeed are changes to the webpage story hopefully the screengrab will have the 'original' content intact so that one can compare.

Just a thought. Great threat i will keep an eye on this one.

reply to post by ItsEvolutionBaby


That will not work. Anything writen or taped or on the net will just change with the shift like every thing else. there is not way to keep a record from one time line to the next. Only your memory of the event will hold the record. Your would have to have a box or something with some kind of temporal shielding to take anything from one time line to the next. If any record could be kept it would have be done long ago. Sorry, nice idea but it just will not work.

Originally posted by IAmD1
reply to post by onehuman

 

Hi Great thread however I have a suggestion. If timelines are changing then i asume that all content that was once associated with that will also change such as web pages, links etc. Might i suggest that a screen grab (or several) are taken of the website where the article was posted and uploaded as images to further support the story. If there indeed are changes to the webpage story hopefully the screengrab will have the 'original' content intact so that one can compare.

Just a thought. Great threat i will keep an eye on this one.

Only if your computer has temporal shielding.

Hmmm thanks for the responses. Ok so some think even grabbing a ss of the web where story was printed may disappear. Would the fact we wrote it here disappear here as well? I mean I will start taking ss when they happen just in case as I hope other folks do as well.

I mean I hate to be down the road going I know I started a thread about this and that person was on it as one listed, to not find this as well. That would be bizarre...

Originally posted by onehuman
Hmmm thanks for the responses. Ok so some think even grabbing a ss of the web where story was printed may disappear. Would the fact we wrote it here disappear here as well? I mean I will start taking ss when they happen just in case as I hope other folks do as well.

I mean I hate to be down the road going I know I started a thread about this and that person was on it as one listed, to not find this as well. That would be bizarre...

NOTING no where would be safe. But go ahead and try it any way. If this keeps up there may come a time when time lines start to overlap. That will be bad for us but it may allow for different versions of things to coexists from more that one time line. But by the time that happens we all will be in trouble that is beyond words. But until that day happens the only way for any screen shoots to make it would be for the computer they were stored on to time slip into our time line. But even it by chance that did happen every one would be screaming "PHOTOSHOP" as loud as they could. I am not telling any one not to try and collect data but I am telling everyone that data may not be save or reliable.