Wikileaks - First Leaks Revealed

Originally posted by Thermo Klein
I find it bizarre that many, many people on here are more interested in the drama and lack of US media coverage, than on actually looking over the data provided by wikileaks! In 25 pages of this thread I've seen only a handful of links to the actual cables.

Five more where just added - not a lot but nice to see they're still uploading!!

226 now.

What?? you mean going to the Wikileaks site and using the browser to actually look stuff up, dude big ask, most will be happy to simply listen to what the guy on tv says the guys from the newspaper says is important or "juicy". Hence all the comments about what various gulf Kings have asked the US to do for them.

I don't know why everyone is falling for this BS!

Does anyone in their right mind really think we will know about the Real secrets?

The day we found out what the real secrets are we won't be able to do anything about it as NWO will be fully established by than.

This thread is still about the Wikileaks release, am I right??

They are studying us like little scared mice in a dish!
If you're interested in flight safety procedures, DHS, etc check out this cable MEDIA REACTION: TERRORISM, IRAN, CHINA, U.S.;BERLIN

¶1. Lead Stories Summary
¶2. (U.S.) Failed Terrorist Attack
¶3. (Iran) New Protestsn4
¶4. (China) Reaction to Jailing of Liu Xiabo
¶5. (U.S.) Healthcare Reform

After the botched hijacking they wanted to see what headlines were around the world. Took note of specific people who supported or were critical of the US.

Australian, where'd you get Swiss from?

More like Israeli mossad or shin biet asset!

Don;tforget theIsraelis used false Ausise passports in the murder in Dubai...this Assange is definitely notany sort of Aussie that I ever met!

Cheers

Originally posted by Yissachar1

Originally posted by alienesque
on the BBC radio now they are basically saying the best thing of this is that we now know how dangerous iran really is..that they are near to having terrible weapons..

this is saddening...REALLY saddening..and depressing to be honest..

Yes I agree.

In every country in the world we have most of us trying to make a meagre existence as best we can.

That includes most Iranians.

Yet our leaders would have us bare the brunt of any actions they take without any empathy for the rest of us.

The spot light on Iran with the comments made by the Arab leaders could destabalize the region further. The Arab leadership already live in fear of their "average Joes" who will now see the full extent of how their leaders kowtow to the west that they hate.

One of the most disturbing factors of the leaks IMO is the gathering of biometric data of various peoples.

I know for a fact that there is bio engineered viruses that are made DNA specific, that was created by the Apartheid South African government who used this tech to assasinate various ANC guys..

Maybe over the top I know. But what other reason could their be for the gathering of this data?

edit on 29-11-2010 by Yissachar1 because: (no reason given)

im more disgusted with how our media is treating this..

on the BBC its like..'afghanistan is run by criminals...well..we know that anyway..nothing to see here'..
in germany all they are talking about is how merkel is called 'teflon merkel'...and basically saying its all just gossip...in england they are playing it down...

this has depressed me..seriously....there are allegations of huge proportions...human trafficking and child porn in some governments...drugs and mafia links in governments...clinton breaking the law and gathering DNA of people...etc..

ok..many people at ATS wouldnt be surprised that russia and italy is run by the mafia and that the UN may have links to terror organizations...but many people would be and even thats not the whole point...the thing here is that now these things are out in the open the mainstream media can no longer play the old 'conspiracy theory' card..and politicians cannot just laugh these things off anymore....

for this reason alone these leaks have enormous importance

Originally posted by necromanser
Sorry to burst the bubble

LAME “LEAK” SITE NOTHING MORE THAN THIN COVER FOR “THE TEL AVIV TANGO”

www.veteranstoday.com...

Great read from an apparently informed source.

reply to post by highfreq


yes its time---most can handle the truth on any topic. this is one reason why ats forum is a big aide. conversing with like minds lessons the psykiic blows!!

reply to post by Thermo Klein


WOW, Thank you. I just read through that. It sounds like the recent failed terror attacks could have been staged to implement the body scanners. Check out this qoute...

"If someone really had believed that we have transnational terror under control, and that we can give an all-clear signal with respect to security, then those people have now been taught better. Irrespective of whether the attacker acted on his own or on the instructions of al-Qaida, the danger is not over and that is why travelers, not only to the Untied States, must accept new inconveniences which are hopefully useful."

I realise this quote is from a newspaper but it does resonate in relation to the body scanners.

reply to post by Wide-Eyes
Just had a look at some of the missives on wikileaks they just seem to be a bunch of diplomatic communications, there are so many of them it would take a long time reading all the boring stuff to get to any juicy kind of info,seems like a lot of hype

those of you making the connections to mossad, especially the guy that said the reason everything seems to be pro-israel and anti-iran is because this is a huge blackmail scheme to get the US to attack Iran...well damn. i never would have believed it before, but i dont know... that's a crazy accusation, but it could be so possible. i think we will have a better idea if this is true or not in the next batch. if more REAL dirt comes out, and more pro-israel rhetoric, then ill believe 90% it is possible. as for now these leaks are amazing objectively speaking.


BTW, wasn't there supposed to be 7 times as many docs as the war logs? why are there only 220+/250,000 released? shouldnt it be 220+/2.8 mil?



this whole Israel connection is driving me nuts. i mean what if all of what is going on in the states now is actually just the government realy trying to protect us from threats designed by Israel? all the speculation of the war on terror moving to different fronts in the middle east is supposed to get the people angry with the government so the US falls from within, making it easier to take it from outside?what i cant understand is why the US would havbe to put up with it. does it have to do with the economy and the banks? Israel has some control over it or something so if the US fought back then bam! the money supply dissipates and the world economy goes down with us.

reply to post by swanseadog2510


I think it seems like hype for many people because it takes work... this is not the media giving you a sound bite and telling you what to think. I've looked through about 50 cables this evening and found a few worth further study. Also depends on your interest.

Iranian Psychology, behavior, negotiation style, trustworthiness,
cablegate....__._/cable/1979/08/79TEHRAN8980.html

British company provides Iran with Nuclear reactor parts
cablegate....__._/cable/2009/03/09BAKU179.html

U.S. urges China to stop ballistic missile shipment from North Korea to Iran:
cablegate....__._/cable/2007/11/07STATE152317.html

Insider view of Robert Mugabe and Zimbabwe courses of action
cablegate....__._/cable/2007/07/07HARARE638.html

National HUMINT Collection Directive (NHCD) on Africa's Great Lakes Region (DROC [Congo], Burundi, and Rwanda)
cablegate....__._/cable/2009/04/09STATE37561.html

Iran removing anti-American murals and slogans in Tehran
cablegate....__._/cable/2009/05/09STATE47326.html

Insider politics in Iran, between top 4 major players:
cablegate....__._/cable/2009/04/09RPODUBAI177.html

SCENESETTER FOR HOMELAND SECURITY AND COUNTERTERRORISM ADVISOR TOWNSEND'S VISIT TO THE UAE
cablegate....__._/cable/2006/04/06ABUDHABI1401.html

REPORTING AND COLLECTION NEEDS: THE UNITED NATIONS
cablegate....__._/cable/2009/07/09STATE80163.html

Worldwide Media reaction to botched airplane explosives and increased security measures
cablegate....__._/cable/2009/12/09BERLIN1626.html

Sec Defense Gates meeting with French
cablegate....__._/cable/2010/02/10PARIS170.html

GENERAL PETRAEUS WITH KING HAMAD: IRAQ
cablegate....__._/cable/2009/11/09MANAMA642.html

All the "Scenesetter" cables are FULL of information - pretty fascinating if ur into Sociology or politics.

reply to post by Micky123

Obama stated that the release would put lives at risk and endanger national security,to know this he would have to know the contents of the documents in question,just a thought.

If you're having a hard time finding the Wikileaks data, other than what's posted in here - check out this thread:

Wikileaks - How To Find Info quick and simple users guide to doing searches on the new wikileaks site.

Originally posted by swanseadog2510
reply to post by Micky123

 

Obama stated that the release would put lives at risk and endanger national security,to know this he would have to know the contents of the documents in question,just a thought.

the U.S. government is without doubt VERY against U.S. secrets getting out. Obama's statement, whether true or not, is just to rally the people against Wikileaks and portray them as the bad guys. I've already seen MSM news stories saying false things about what's in the released data.

Gonna take a lot of work to get anything pertinent out to the public.

After going through a lot of info and seeing how the media are spinning this, i'm starting to smell a very strong stench of fish.

It seems that Iran is the main focus and that it plays well for those who wish to attack Iran.

Looks like an inteligence operation to me.

SecDef noted that Iran is playing both sides of the street -- trying to be friendly with the Afghanistan government while trying to undermine ISAF efforts. He noted that intelligence indicated there was little lethal material crossing the Afghanistan-Iran border.

source

Secretary of Defense says the opposite

Originally posted by Thermo Klein
If you're having a hard time finding the Wikileaks data, other than what's posted in here - check out this thread:

Wikileaks - How To Find Info quick and simple users guide to doing searches on the new wikileaks site.

Nice one, well done dude, good link!

¶8. (S) In recent meetings with senior USG officials, MbZ has
expressed clear support for U.S. initiatives against Iran.
MbZ and UAE Vice President and Prime Minister Sheikh Mohammed
bin Rashid agreed with Secretary Rice February 23 about the
need to counter Iran's growing influence in the region and
its nuclear ambitions, although they specified that any
sanctions should target the key Iranian leadership, not the
Iranian people (ref I). MbZ told A/S Welch March 28 that he
did not think it was necessary to wait for all Gulf
Cooperation Council (GCC) countries to agree before
proceeding with any plans against Iran (ref E). "Whoever is
interested in getting on board ship should be encouraged," he
said. "I don't think it's logical or smart to wait for
everyone to get involved so we can sail. ... If another GCC
member believes it's not right, that's his choice." In the
Arab region, MbZ specifically identified Bahrain and Jordan
as two countries that also view Iran as a threat and that are
"capable to work with us." He told A/S Welch that the UAE
would prepare a paper responding to USG concerns about Iran
and mechanisms for addressing the challenge posed by Iran.
In a March 27 meeting with CENTCOM Commander General Abizaid,
MbZ spoke about the Iranian threat with a greater sense of
urgency. He was strongly in favor of taking action against
Iran and its president sooner rather than later. "I believe
this guy is going to take us to war. ... It's a matter of
time," MbZ warned, adding that action against Iran and
President Ahmedinejad should be taken this year or next year.
MbZ said he was unwilling to wait much longer. "Personally,
I cannot risk it with a guy like Ahmedinejad. He is young
and aggressive."

cablegate....__._/cable/2006/04/06ABUDHABI1401.html

Crazy..

We are not the ONLY ones to make the Israeli / AIPAC connection with Wikileaks.

mycatbirdseat.com...

GORDON DUFF: WIKILEAKS, A TOUCH OF ASSANGE AND THE STENCH OF AIPAC
“recent admissions that the Israeli lobby, AIPAC, routinely receives masses of classified information makes them suspect #1 for being the source of Wikileaks”

Wikileaks is like a TV show that never gets off the ground. We started with a “shoot ‘em up” in Iraq, the helicopter slaughter soon forgotten and move on to, well, what? We got a deluge of material from Afghanistan, carefully gleaned to point fingers at Pakistan. When it came down to backing any of it up, it went nowhere.

Considering the massive corruption and drug scandals, even the revelations that President Karzai has been in negotiations with pranksters pretending to be the Talbian, all the really juicy stuff from Afghanistan must have been in another drawer. Then we got Iraq. Ah, Iraq. There, we could check. We know the people who wrote the leaked material. They told us Wikileaks edited it, altered it, redacted it more than the Pentagon

The “Iraq War Log” was, well…phony. There is one thing that has been consistent about Wikileaks and our prediction is that this next batch, reputed to be millions of highly sensitive documents, will prove our point. Wikileaks is Israel.

Wikileaks is an intelligence operation to weaken and undermine the American government, orchestrated from Tel Aviv, using dozens of operatives, dual citizens, some at the highest authority levels, spies for Israel. Through leaking carefully selected intelligence along with proven falsified documents, all fed to a controlled press, fully complicit, Wikileaks is, in fact, an act of war against the United States.

etc etc etc

It's a pretty well understood connection.

Until the house is swept clean andyou se dual nationals given a choice - your either with us or against us, choose this day who you serve America or Israel, and anyonewhodioesnt renouncetheir Israeli citizenship gets deported to tel-a-viv. - then the house isn't swept clean.

The tipping points ben reached and Israels days are numbered.

No more US aid and no US military support, Israel alone in the middle east to sink or swim on their own.

Can't come quick enough if you ask me.

Cheers

Real secrets are only discussed in person and in private. Never via email or written letters of any kind. That's why the real secrets stay secret. Only a fool would put valuable information into any sort of electronic format. Too easy to intercept and copy.