Christmas 2010... and Santa's got competition as multi-faith lights blaze out Read more: http://ww

And a very happy Diwali, to you too! Christmas 2010... and Santa's got competition as multi-faith lights blaze out Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... n

Just yesterday, Communties Secretary Eric Pickles called on local councils to mark Christmas with traditional lights, carol services and nativity scenes, saying: ‘We should actively celebrate the Christian basis of Christmas, and not allow politically correct Grinches to marginalise Christmas and the importance of the the birth of Christ.’ Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... J

The only illumination that lit up the sky on the first Christmas was the star over Bethlehem. But more than 2,000 years later, the streets of Britain are ablaze with a bizarre array of garish neon images – some with only the most tenuous of links to the festive season. With so many faiths in the country, messages wishing ‘Happy Eid’ or ‘Happy Diwali’ are widespread – even though both those festivals have long passed. Read more: www.dailymail.co.uk... q

Well the silly season is starting to get into full swing and competition for your money and the minds of the ignorant normally reserved by the xtians is hotting up .

Clearly the fact that December 25th was not the birthday of jesus completely escapes Eric Pickles , neeldess to say he's probably pissed that his personal delusion is now taking a back seat to others


Some nice looking lights though
linkwww.mailonsunday.co.uk...

Eid was less than 2 weeks ago, and Diwali ended around the same time. The article even says that most of the decorations are set to be removed long before Christmas. The dailymail is seriously such a whiney, sensationalist example of tabloid journalism....


But you know what, honestly, I'd be a whole lot happier if Diwali and Eid didn't get the same treatment as Christmas. I'd hate to see them become the crass, glaringly bright displays of opulent commercialism that Christmas unfortunately has in so many countries.

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You really do hate Christians, huh? This is the second thread I have seen you bashing them. Why are you suffering from Christiphobia?

*Sigh.*

More useless energy wasted over symbolic crap. It seems every day now somebody is buring something or erecting something or saying or doing something that has no real world impact in and of itself, but has extreme symbolic import. And then everyone can get all "offended" about this or that, and get up on their high horses and witheringly declare how their grandfather died for this or that and how "OFFENSIVE" it is. That's a magic word -- OFFENSIVE. It gives people the license to feel all put-upon and to whine and moan about the unfairness of the world where before there would have been stoic silence.

I don't care what side of whatever fence people happen to be on -- I just wish mankind would stop its silly symbol manipulation for a month or two at least and try to look directly at the world as it is, and not as something that signifies something else. Then who knows? We might actually get somewhere.

I don't know what he's complaining about. Christmas is so secularized these days that I know Atheists who celebrate it. Heck, I'm an Agnostic, and I plan to celebrate. It's not really even a Christian holiday anymore. (Okay, so technically Christmas is just a Christianized Yule, anyway. Details, details.)

Anyway, welcome to the 21st century, dude, where we know that there are other religions in the world besides our own and don't burn them at the stake for it.

Originally posted by sara123123
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You really do hate Christians, huh? This is the second thread I have seen you bashing them. Why are you suffering from Christiphobia?

No I don't hate chrtistians as a matter of fact, you know a bit like how christians don't hate homosexuals just what they do . And I can assure you there's far more than thread where my mouth runs off

reply to post by The Djin


Again,you and I agree on something...
Jesus/Yeshua was NOT born on december 25th.
I believe if God had meant for us to celebrate Jesus'
birth,He would have given us the exact date He was born!

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This is his mission in life to bash any religious teachings.
He does not discriminate,he bashes all,his favorite does
seem to be christianity.

reply to post by mamabeth

I believe if God had meant for us to celebrate Jesus' birth,He would have given us the exact date He was born!

depends on which jesus you're talking about though, watch and learn

Originally posted by mamabeth
reply to post by sara123123

 

This is his mission in life to bash any religious teachings.
He does not discriminate,he bashes all,his favorite does
seem to be christianity.

He knows Christians won't have a violent reaction to his smears and calls for oppression. Muslims might chop chop so the coward is careful about debasing them and their religion. It is always the same with these toltaltarian-wannbe kooks.

Originally posted by The Djin

Originally posted by sara123123
reply to post by The Djin

 

You really do hate Christians, huh? This is the second thread I have seen you bashing them. Why are you suffering from Christiphobia?

No I don't hate chrtistians as a matter of fact, you know a bit like how christians don't hate homosexuals just what they do . And I can assure you there's far more than thread where my mouth runs off

Oh, I think I get it now. You are a homosexual who is angry that Christians aren't celebrating your sexual behaviors? We had homosexual activists attacking Christians (Mormans) in California. They got arrested for violating the civil rights of Christians.

Just because Christians don't embrace a sexual behavior does not mean they hate the person. They don't embrace theft but still don't hate theives. They don't hate anybody. If we did hate people who sin, we would have to hate ourselves. We can't say the same for homosexual activists who want to use violence and the government to force their belief structure on the whole society. Some have a difficult time coping with a free society where everyone does not think and believe alike.

I am a Christian who does not believe the homosexual lifestyle is healthy for human beings. Yet I did not hesitate to help a lesbian woman at church when she fell, broke her back and became paralyzed. She lived at my house until she was through rehab and able to go out on her own. I love her.

People that group all blacks as liking fried chicken and watermelon are called racists.

People that believe all gays walk with limp wrists are stereotyping.

Yet, why is it OK to group all Christians as being iggnorant, Bible thumping neanderthals.

I am a Christian. I have friends...some are white, some are black, some are straight, some are gay or lesbian, some go to church, some don't believe in God, some do believe in Allah.

If you wish to celebrate a holiday or a holy day...do so, more power to you. But please let me enjoy my beliefs as how I see fit, and you go and live your life as you see fit. Yes, if my nativity scene in my front yard bothers you, look the other way... and when I ride by a stripper bar, I will look the other way, but I'm not going to try and close it up... so please don't try to shut me and others like me down.

Not all Christians will try to hit you on the head with a Bible and "save" you. However, we will try to help you when your house burns down, or your family is in need, or your kids might want some toys for the holiday season, or you need food, or heat, or a new roof for your house, or a ride to the doctor.

That is what it means to be "fishers of men"...we offer you an opportunity, it is up to you to take it.

reply to post by sara123123

Just because Christians don't embrace a sexual behavior does not mean they hate the person.

I have not implied that they do, I've been made fully aware that xtians don't hate homosexuals just what they do ie sex between 2 men.

I've also been made aware that their god yawhwe/jesus is the one that condemns what homosexuals do to such a degree that he instructed they should be put to death for engaging in such an abomination.

No doubt you don't agree with yahwhe/jesus in the how the perpetrator of the crime is to be punished but are in complete agreement on the offense itself.

We can't say the same for homosexual activists who want to use violence and the government to force their belief structure on the whole society.

Gay people are in no way trying to enforce a belief structure upon a government merely demanding equal rights in relation to marriage and the right to be gay in the first place.

Contrary to your assertion I'm not gay myself but should I choose to be gay I damned well expect no less rights as I have now.

Some have a difficult time coping with a free society where everyone does not think and believe alike.

Indeed, and not too long back these people were labeled Heretics and who can forget what your lot did to them in the dark ages of christian theocracy.

Her's a few examples to jog your memory of what it's like when christians get their own way and apply their gods rules.-

Pope Sixtus IV, in alliance with King Ferdinand of Spain, establishes the Spanish Inquisition. Jews, Moors and heretics will be imprisoned, tortured and murdered for centuries. The bisexual Sixtus, though suffering from syphilis, fathers children from his elder sister.

Breaking on the Wheel. The naked heretic had each limb and joint broken precisely to avoid any fatal blows. He was then 'braided' into the spokes of the wheel and hoisted on to a post. There he was exposed to the elements – or left to be twirled by passers by who wanted to join in the fun.

The vaginal pear was used on woman who had sex with the Devil or his familiars. The rectal pear was used on passive male homosexuals and the oral pear was used on heretical preachers or lay persons found guilty of unorthodox practices. Inserted into the mouth, anus or vagina of the victim, the pear was expanded by use of the screw until the insides are ripped, stretched and mutilated, almost always causing death. The pointed ends of the 'leaves' were good for ripping the throat, intestines or cervix open.

Hm, I think I'll hold on there as I'm beginning to think that the extensive methods of torture conjured up in the minds of christians are worthy of a thread all of their own with pictures.

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There have been plenty of people that called themselves Christian that oppressed/ killed/ tortured other peoples that did not believe the same as they did. However, history shows us equally as many people that call themselves non-christians, atheists, muslim, communists, nazis, freedom fighters, revolutionaries, socialists, etc that have also killed/ tortured/ oppressed others.

Many of those people that call themselves Christian are no more Christian than me putting on a Santa Claus suit makes me Santa...

Unfortunately, there are bad people and they find the niche that allows them to be bad. There are pedophiles that becfome teachers or priests or policemen. There are psychopaths that become doctors and even politicians. However, they do not represent the whole of their respective professions or beliefs.

Again, do not condemn the whole of Christianity for what a relative few do... much like we should not condemn the whole of Islam for what a relative few do... or condemn the whole of gays or lesbians for what a relative few do...or condemn any group for what a relative few do.

No matter the group, race, religion...there's good and bad everywhere. What you see is what you focus on and what you focus on is what you see.

reply to post by AlreadyGone

Again, do not condemn the whole of Christianity for what a relative few do...

In a christian theocracy it's not the few though is it ?