N. Korea deploys SA-2 surface-to-air missiles near Yellow Sea border with S. Korea

Aren't the exercises not scheduled for another few hours if I was reading right earlier? I thought I read somewhere the exercises weren't supposed to officially start until 3:00 or something like that Seoul time. Are the ships positioning themselves or did they start sooner than I believed?

too hard to skip over a post, or you know not let it effect you?

can't self filter, I mean I just don't get it period nor why you'd need an ignore button to simply ignore someone, as if our brains lack the ability.


Anyhoo, I am curious as to how all this plays out, hoping it calms don't need more deaths.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

Originally posted by DarthPhobos
Ok people still posting about the evacuation, if youve been following you will know that order has since been lifted,

I only see one source stating that it has been lifted...all the others are saying it s still under way.

Sources coming thick and fast

# Repeating info directly from Jason Strother on Yeonpyeong: all there ordered into shelters for 30 minutes. They're above ground again. less than 10 seconds ago via TweetDeck

# Again, no indication of fresh shelling on Yeonpyeong despite speculation to contrary. Sound of artillery in #DPRK (about 10km away) heard. 1 minute ago via TweetDeck

# The 1230KST ferry from Yeonpyeong to Incheon has been canceled. 5 minutes ago via TweetDeck

# Those on Yeonpyeong being allowed to leave shelters. 5 minutes ago via TweetDeck

(URGENT) S. Korea's military lifts evacuation order on Yeonpyeong Island: official

Just spoke again to Jason Strother on Yeonpyeong who will board the 1230 ferry if he can. Other reporters also to head to Incheon as planned less than 10 seconds ago via TweetDeck

# Xinhua: #DPRK Supreme People's Assembly chmn. Choe Tae-bok to visit China from Tuesday. #Koreas less than 5 seconds ago via TweetDeck

# Chong Wa Dae (Blue House) confirms Pres. Lee met visiting top Chinese leaders today. #Koreas less than a minute ago via TweetDeck

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live fire exercise

There will be no live firing element in the drills

(CNN)

?

LOL-it encourages me to tell you guys that nothing is happening? There will be no WW3? Go to bed kids...nothing is happeneing. If im wrong i will send you all gift vouchers for cheeseburgers.

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Maybe it's a false flag, but I know how Commies are thinking and if they want to prove they have power, they'll shot. Right now I'm worrying for those people on Korean waters, because the George Washington is a can be considered as a sitting duck against 60+ NK submarines what the Commies have. I'm just calculating the odds and if only one of the sides is making just a little mistake or overreacting the situation, hell will broke out and the U.S. can say bye-bye to one CVN.

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

I only see one source stating that it has been lifted...all the others are saying it s still under way.

The only sources worth following right now are from South Korea. Everyone else is just picking up SK feeds, and information takes a bit of time to process. If you want to know what's happening fast: english.yonhapnews.co.kr...
or the excellent RV link posted earlier in this thread, if you speak a bit of korean.

Originally posted by Sentinel412
I have just one question... how is it possible that the U.S. Command is not considering the odds right now. What do the North Koreans have? Submarines. Plenty of submarines. Around 60+. And the U.S. is sending 1 aircraft carrier along with 4 escort ships into Korean waters (Presumably 4 destroyers, or 3 destroyers & 1 cruiser, or 2 destroyers & 2 cruisers). So my question is... what the U.S. Naval Command really thinking?

If the North Koreans wants to make a war, which seems it's in their best interest, right now the U.S. Command is sent one slightly defended carrier group into the war zone, right in front of the torpedo tubes of countless enemy submarines.

I'm not that good with numbers, but if the NK is sending out just 40% of their subs, the U.S. can say bye-bye to the George Washington as nothing will be able to defend it from that overwhelming submarine force (Destroyers are outnumbered and the onboard helos are also insufficient to protect the CVN against this force if they're going to face with it.).

edit on 27-11-2010 by Sentinel412 because: (no reason given)

True, and I was thinking the same thing. However, we don't know what the US has in the area that they're NOT telling us about - including subs. I would bet good money that they're holding some cards close to their chest.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
LOL-it encourages me to tell you guys that nothing is happening? There will be no WW3? Go to bed kids...nothing is happeneing. If im wrong i will send you all gift vouchers for cheeseburgers.

What no fries and shake? What about a coke and a smile

Originally posted by vox2442

Originally posted by captaintyinknots

I only see one source stating that it has been lifted...all the others are saying it s still under way.

The only sources worth following right now are from South Korea. Everyone else is just picking up SK feeds, and information takes a bit of time to process. If you want to know what's happening fast: english.yonhapnews.co.kr...
or the excellent RV link posted earlier in this thread, if you speak a bit of korean.

You Mean MBN Korean news LIVE - On right

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You do realise that you have just entered into a written contract with everyone on this thread?

I want a Cheeseburger damn it

Originally posted by nocents
reply to post by Sentinel412

 

The North dose not want war. They want Kim JR to look competent. In a few days the drills will be over, and the North will proclaim junior was victorious in defeating the mighty US. Sending them away in defeat.

In the mean time they will set off charges and artillery blanks as a show for the NK people. They have everything to loose and know it. Regime change propaganda. False Flag for the NK

My fear is the son is 26 years old, and we all know how hot headed and cocky we were at that age.

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look at all the OTHER links you failed to post about the live fire exercise, your poor research and reading is no excuse for being ignorant. dont ask me to post the link, its not my job to teach.

reply to post by Symp EL

My thoughts exactly. And add that he is a 26 year old Commie. Commies are never good in any of the ages, especially when they're in their twenties.

reply to post by Symp EL
I'm 16...




I'm seious though I am, so no I don't know what it's like.

Originally posted by Sentinel412
I have just one question... how is it possible that the U.S. Command is not considering the odds right now. What do the North Koreans have? Submarines. Plenty of submarines. Around 60+. And the U.S. is sending 1 aircraft carrier along with 4 escort ships into Korean waters (Presumably 4 destroyers, or 3 destroyers & 1 cruiser, or 2 destroyers & 2 cruisers). So my question is... what the U.S. Naval Command really thinking?

If the North Koreans wants to make a war, which seems it's in their best interest, right now the U.S. Command is sent one slightly defended carrier group into the war zone, right in front of the torpedo tubes of countless enemy submarines.

I'm not that good with numbers, but if the NK is sending out just 40% of their subs, the U.S. can say bye-bye to the George Washington as nothing will be able to defend it from that overwhelming submarine force (Destroyers are outnumbered and the onboard helos are also insufficient to protect the CVN against this force if they're going to face with it.).

edit on 27-11-2010 by Sentinel412 because: (no reason given)

Carrier strike groups usually travel with 1 or 2 subs. I tried yesterday to find out what support ships the GW was bringing but only found references to 4 ships. Regardless of what we "officially" say we deployed, you can be damned sure we sent subs.

Originally posted by princeofpeace
LOL-it encourages me to tell you guys that nothing is happening? There will be no WW3? Go to bed kids...nothing is happeneing. If im wrong i will send you all gift vouchers for cheeseburgers.

You really are a patronising smug arrogant one aren't you.

Have a star for effort...

reply to post by peter_kandra

Even if two or four subs is with them, it's still insufficient protection against 60+ subs. And only one must hit the GW. So mathematically the GW has not a single chance, regardless there are 2 or 4 subs along with the 4 warship escort. If the NK is willing to take her down, she will go down. That's simple mathematical odds.

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The new leader is probably showing state video of the arrival of the US aircraft carrier and the US/SK war games going on. They will then show the deployment of the NK missiles in response to stand up to the foes. In a few days (after the exercises are done), NK will say they chased away (LMAO!!) the US aircraft carrier and that the US and SK suffered a military defeat.