Earth sized UFOs near Sun (Nov 26)

Originally posted by OrionHunterX
Disinfo agent!

But NASA ain't paid me a pie yet! Oh woe!

Well that is because you volunteered and didn't request being on the payroll first, like Jim Oberg did. NASA is on a limited budget after all and will gladly take all the help they can get

But I think they are wrong... just imagine the funding they could get selling us some of the real pohotos of the Lunar bases and some really good UFO shots. I mean I had to pay &110.00 for that triangle that they shot out the window of STS61C

Yes, they could be some exotic craft like the TR3-B or whatever. All made on Earth by our very own Earthlings. But then as per you and others these alien craft would need to be Earth-size to have been visible in the first place!! Now I wasn't aware that the TR3-Bs were Earth size!! Wow!

Or these must be ver 1.2!! Lol!

Well the TR3-B is back enhineered from off world tech according to those who revealed it... and it is supposedly pretty large.

But what makes anyone think these are Earth size or near the sun? What is your reference point?

The SOHO space craft is 1 million miles from Earth. The disk on the center of the images is on an arm of the spacecraft. The sun is still 92 million miles further. How do you know they UFO's are not passing close to the SOHO spacecraft? there is no point of reference to estimate size.

Critical thinking

And say hi to your little Martian Mike next time you visit

Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by endtimer

 

How do you explain the hundreds (if not thousands) of UFOs that are witnessed (and photographed) flying in and out of active volcanoes?

We simply can't apply our science to their reality. Hell, we shouldn't even apply the limitations of science on OUR reality because I know of people who've gone through solid walls. And according to our science, two solids will resist one another.

Science is a method of brainwashing. Whether on purpose or out of ignorance but obviously the science of 250 years ago is already null and void. If we last another 250 years, everything we thought we knew will look foolish too.

Stop reading 'laws' and 'rules'. They put us in a very limited mindset. Discover things on your own and don't look to others (especially in an authoritative capacity) for answers. Because not one person or theory will ever be believed, accepted or embraced by everyone. So in essence, science is flawed.

You have some really wild ideas YOU iirc said you have no expertise in photography the pictures and videos are LOW RES and suffer from artifacts jpeg for stills mpeg for the videos LOOK it up to see examples.

You can even see examples of this when you watch sat or cable tv when a channel broadcasts at a LOW bit rate you get that blocky look you see on those videos it really is that SIMPLE! look at the hi res soho pics these objects dont show up then FUNNY THAT!

As for your rules THIS is what happens with low res videos and pictures YOU cant change that, its a fact, look at how bad some youtube videos look due to low res and high compression SOME RULES cant be broken so deal with it!

Would like to SEE your proof re walking through walls NO PROOF then it DIDN'T HAPPEN!

They are ships!! wake up and smell the coffee people......Plain and simple......They are galactic ships. UFO's....whatever sounds best. Our limited minds cannot comprehend what is outside our fishbowl. It's been hidden from us for so long, and now that it's all coming out in the open, some of us can't deal with the truth, the reality....NOT the truth and reality of what we've previously been fed to believe.

And why wouldn't they be able to be that close to the sun? why not even live on the sun?....what do we know after all? That's right. We don't.

It's helpful to stretch and expand your mind and consciousness a bit....you'll be able to handle the truth better when it comes out full force. Because it's going to blow your mind ( and socks). It will be NOTHING what we are imagining. Not even close. Right now, we are being "spoonfed" like a baby, to gradually adjust.....We are going to see ALOT more, so hang on to your seats......it's going to be a heck of a ride.

Originally posted by GoldFlame
They are ships!! wake up and smell the coffee people......Plain and simple......They are galactic ships. UFO's....whatever sounds best. Our limited minds cannot comprehend what is outside our fishbowl. It's been hidden from us for so long, and now that it's all coming out in the open, some of us can't deal with the truth, the reality....NOT the truth and reality of what we've previously been fed to believe.

Oooops! I think you're all mixed up. This is what you should have said.....

They are low rez image artefacts!! wake up and smell the coffee people......Plain and simple......They are CCD glitches. Pixelation....whatever sounds best. Our limited minds cannot comprehend what is outside our fishbowl. It's never been hidden from us, and that was always out in the open, some of us can't deal with the truth, the reality....NOT the nonsense we've previously been fed to believe (by the believers!).

Ahh...! That's better! I can go sip my coffee now!

Saturn, debating using word salads is rather boring, especially when the word salad is obviously slanted to one theory of many. If you want people to read your rants, you might have better luck being clear, concise and to the point, like Zorgon.

Word salad's only prove weak points and try to rally readers to your way of thinking which may or may not be correct. Plus they are difficult reading.

I know from personal experience that there are many things going on out there which are not explained to most people or covered up. I am picking the covered up theory because of the technology we have aspired to in the past 100 years vrs. the past 5,000 years.

The question should be, why now? What is so significant about the times we are living in today? One report has us being taught by the Gods. Who could these Gods be?

Originally posted by Human_Alien
...And seeing I am a believer (knower) of off-world intelligent life coupled with the fact that I know how governments cover-up truths......being suspicious of something that looks odd in space which NASA is the only one privy to (for they own and operate the equipments and photos) isn't that far out of line...

So you are admitting that your beliefs are biasing your judgment.

I have no belief either way (I don't believe nor disbelieve in (to paraphrase you) "off-world intelligent life coupled with government cover-ups". I am agnostic about the idea of intelligent aliens visiting Earth, so my judgment is not impaired by my beliefs.

I try to look at each unknown event on its own merits, and not let what I believe cloud my judgment (i.e., I don't take leaps of faith based on what is perhaps unrelated knowledge I may possess). Looking at this video from this completely agnostic point-of-view, I don't see enough evidence that these are actually Earth-sized objects near the Sun.

reply to post by Human_Alien


Assuming for a moment that these are NOT an armada of death stars in solar orbit, then what could they possibly be? The only explanation(s) which seem to make sense is/are that these objects are either planetary reflections, shadows or silhouettes; this might also explain why they appear not to be gravitationally influenced and why they appear to follow the solar contour.

An interesting POV, I will maybe make a thread here about the black spots
in our atmosphere so well known for the Russian ufologists and so unknown
in the West equalizing everything to aliens and Hollywood monsters.

reply to post by Soylent Green Is People


I am/was looking at this objectively and my conclusion is, I don't know what we're seeing.

A little voice in my head also tells me, not to believe what is pumped out there either. But I haven't jumped on the "OH lookie, UFOs are hovering around our Sun" band wagon either. I would never conclude something that I am only guessing at.

I just merely posted a video. And I don't think it's totally out of the question to....question this.

The reason I even brought up my personal experience/ belief is.......I happen to know our science, at this point, can NOT comprehend off-world technology.
Quantum physics is getting close though. So if they're saying it's possible to bend time/space and we may be living within multiple dimensions then.... it's not a very far reach to consider we MIGHT be seeing something unexplainable.
Our technology is getting better and there's a good chance, because of that, we're just seeing things we weren't expecting to (or can explain).

Wait until CERN reveals their findings. Can you imagine black holes being a fact rather than speculation and then exploring them? Who knows where that may literally take us?! We might end up in the north east corner of Andromeda!

So just know, we don't know.
That's all

Originally posted by GoldFlame
They are ships!! wake up and smell the coffee people......Plain and simple......They are galactic ships. UFO's....whatever sounds best. Our limited minds cannot comprehend what is outside our fishbowl. It's been hidden from us for so long, and now that it's all coming out in the open, some of us can't deal with the truth, the reality....NOT the truth and reality of what we've previously been fed to believe.

And why wouldn't they be able to be that close to the sun? why not even live on the sun?....what do we know after all? That's right. We don't.

It's helpful to stretch and expand your mind and consciousness a bit....you'll be able to handle the truth better when it comes out full force. Because it's going to blow your mind ( and socks). It will be NOTHING what we are imagining. Not even close. Right now, we are being "spoonfed" like a baby, to gradually adjust.....We are going to see ALOT more, so hang on to your seats......it's going to be a heck of a ride.

I agree with you except for 'they are ships' part. They may be ships. And because we're really and truly only guessing (because after all...... it's not like we're seeing a "Made in Orion" label on them so.......) it's not good to conclude.
You can be 99.9% certain, but try to leave a little wiggle room for being wrong. Because if this is how we're going to operate (concluding based on speculation and bias then) ....we'll be in worse shape than we are already in. Because the naysayers will give it right back to us with their unwavering, unyielding convictions and that will get mankind, nowhere!.

So....let's just leave a little margin for error. Both sides!

But I am on your side.

Originally posted by IAMTAT
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Assuming for a moment that these are NOT an armada of death stars in solar orbit, then what could they possibly be? The only explanation(s) which seem to make sense is/are that these objects are either planetary reflections, shadows or silhouettes; this might also explain why they appear not to be gravitationally influenced and why they appear to follow the solar contour.

Hi IAMTA,

Yes! I think they're death stars!!!!! Of course it makes sense. If it were a snake I woulda got bitten.

If that be the case then something of that magnitude would definitely be top secret as far as what they really are or are not.

What better way to brag about something than to put it right out there in a movie and call it fiction without comprising "global security"? Stranger things have happened?

And why can't a fleet of death stars belong to both sides of a conflict? Technology is no respecter of persons.

And finally...ta daa!! I didn't find the blueprints but it sure beats mass confusion...

How to Build The Deathstar

Starblossom

P.S. I could be wrong.

"Wait until CERN reveals their findings."
Wait until CERN reveals its feebleness, because they tossed back
the interactions on a subquantum level. There everything is possible.

Originally posted by realitydiscovered
"Wait until CERN reveals their findings."
Wait until CERN reveals its feebleness, because they tossed back
the interactions on a subquantum level. There everything is possible.

I have no idea what this means. Feebleness? What does that mean? I mean, I know what that means but in regard to CERN, what does that mean?

You mean CERN is not strong enough? Potent enough? Sturdy enough? Ready enough? Technologically superior enough? If any of those are correct then what makes you say that?

(I know nothing about CERN except what I read. So like I said, I know nothing about CERN)

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Okay, how about an alternative theory to what these massive objects near the sun may be?; a bit 'out there' as an idea, but certainly no more so than that of a gathering fleet of death stars. Could these objects possibly be very small wormholes or even black holes giving off a larger visual signature due to their mass? As the ancient maxim goes: As Above;So Below...so maybe there can be a symbiotic/parasitic relationship between energy-producing stars and energy-absorbing micro black holes; much like remoras on the whale shark.

Originally posted by IAMTAT
reply to post by Human_Alien

 

Okay, how about an alternative theory to what these massive objects near the sun may be?; a bit 'out there' as an idea, but certainly no more so than that of a gathering fleet of death stars. Could these objects possibly be very small wormholes or even black holes giving off a larger visual signature due to their mass? As the ancient maxim goes: As Above;So Below...so maybe there can be a symbiotic/parasitic relationship between energy-producing stars and energy-absorbing micro black holes; much like remoras on the whale shark.

Of course. Why not? Especially what the Swiss (scientists) are doing over at CERN. They're trying to produce the very thing. So, this might be a direct result?
This might be what/who causes Crop Circles?
This might have something to do with the Norway Spiral?
It can also just be a glitch on SOHO (or was it Stereo) lens. I just don't know.

My DNA always gravitates towards the more unconventional explanations especially now that my brain realizes there might be a whole agenda geared to keep us in the dark about many things.

I just don't know but I like your theory.
What the heck does: remoras on the whale shark mean?

reply to post by Human_Alien
Ramoras are little fish that ride on the backs of whales and sharks in a symbiotic relationship. The ramoras keeps the sharks clean while the shark provides protection in return. I think IAMTAT is using this as a symbolic analogy.

Originally posted by wmd_2008
Would like to SEE your proof re walking through walls NO PROOF then it DIDN'T HAPPEN!

Oh well that one is easy... all you need to do is put your molecules out of phase. Very simple explanation of how it's done here;

The basic idea behind matter rephasing technology is that it shifts the particles which make up one object so that they can pass through the gaps between the particles making up some other object. For example, in the following diagram, the '+' represents a particle (atom, molecule, whatever). The first diagram shows two objects constructed from normal matter - not under the influence of any MR technology:

everything2.com...

She is referenced as "the girl who can walk through walls" by Senator Kelly. She is shown in Xavier's class when Wolverine walks in; she returns for her books which she had left behind, grabs them, and phases through the door on her way out. Xavier responds with a cheerful "Bye, Kitty" while Wolverine (who had never seen her before in the movies) is startled.

en.wikipedia.org...

Originally posted by Human_Alien
I am/was looking at this objectively and my conclusion is, I don't know what we're seeing.

What ever they may be, one point everyone is skirting around is HOW can you tell;
a) How big they are without a reference point
b) How far away they are from the camera without a reference point
c) How close they are to the Sun without a reference point

To the skeptobunkers that are calling them 'image artifacts' BULL PUCKKY Even NASA and ESA say that the have tracked Planets in transit, asteroids, several thousand comets and some unknowns, as well as 'image artifacts' that may inlcude cosmic ray flashes, missing data and the odd Jupiter sized spade drill bit. Imaginge the damage that puppy could do

A little voice in my head also tells me, not to believe what is pumped out there either.

You should see someone about that... it might be Loki

I just merely posted a video. And I don't think it's totally out of the question to....question this.

I happen to know our science, at this point, can NOT comprehend off-world technology.

Other than that voice, HOW do you know this? What if off-world technology is based on the same laws of physics that we live by? I would say Sci Fi writers have a pretty good grasp of any weird off-world technology and a lot of those ideas are backed by current mundane science

Wait until CERN reveals their findings. Can you imagine black holes being a fact rather than speculation and then exploring them? Who knows where that may literally take us?! We might end up in the north east corner of Andromeda!

Well they keep blowing stuff up, so I wouldn't be trusting that lot too much... A black hole may literally crush us, chews us up and spit us out the poles in a stream of new plasma energy. Great for the Universe... not so good for us

Originally posted by Antoniastar
Yes! I think they're death stars!!!!! Of course it makes sense.

Well I think I will just commandeer this older one in parking orbit. That shiny metal 'looks like a moon' look is priceless




As for CERN anyone notice THIS? CERN layout from space


Image Courtesy: CERN

Look familiar?



I can't WAIT till they activate that thing... wonder what the first target will be

reply to post by Human_Alien


Hi
With the first image of the round object crossing the sun, I believe that might be Mercury. I am only an amateur astronomer but I witnessed this some years ago. Mercury has a retrograde orbit which means it sometimes appears between the sun and the Earth. I believe the image would have been taken over a period of time and sped up for this video. It also explains why it appears to be planet sized.
I have no explanations of the others though. Hope this helps

Sas