7$ dollars a gallon for Gas are you ready?

If I have to pay 7 dollars a gallon. Im walking.

Originally posted by daeldren

The oil industry is definately the parasitic leech on mankind!

What do you expect from a man that comes from the oil business and have deeps root in it also.

Bush is not going to put down the source of his personal and his partner�s livelihoods do you?

They are going to leech us dried. However, the economy is doing fine he said but the prices at the pump is killing us.Rght? So that means that in bushes eyes we are making more than enough to pay for a (littler) increased in gas so his business partners can get richer.

Whats this going to do to the transport industry?

seriously.

Trucks running deisel in Austrlia are paying about $1 for a litre of deisel. NOw trucks drink 1 litre per about 2 km...

someone reckons in 3 years...the price of petrol will be $3 per litre. Our petrol and deisel prices are nearly the same....

100 km X $3....$150 ....

destroy the transport industry...the backbone of every nation....and what do you have? recession.

Here are some really good articles off this website about "Peak Oil." Well thought out too. IMO Peak Oil is real. It's not a fantasy.

www.fromthewilderness.com...

[edit on 11-8-2004 by mrmulder]

And the main problem that we, as a society, are going to have is the fact that our food production is heavily linked to the oil supply. No oil, no food. (to speak of)

Things are going to get nasty. Economic collapse of epic proportions. There is the possibility that it won't happen for many years, but even the most conservative estimates put the peak of oil production between 2030 and 2050. That's not very far out at all. Way too close for comfort. And that's highly optimistic. The pessimists are saying that we've already passed the peak, in which case, disaster is imminant.

Interesting times we're living in, eh?

ethenol would be my best bet too. we can make it for really cheap, much less than $7 a gallon. the only problem would be convberting everyone's cars to run on it.

Originally posted by Ouizel
The pessimists are saying that we've already passed the peak, in which case, disaster is imminant.

Isn�t there a lot of oil in Alaska just waiting to get picked up?
They are still finding new oil-reservoirs in the northern sea every now and then...

Maybe they�ll find a lot of oil in Antarctica one day?
BLACK GOLD IN A WHITE WILDERNESS

But the problem is: Who "owns" Antarctica?
Norway is supposed to "own" a bit of Antarctica but the US and most other states do not recognize the territorial claims of other states
Possible future conflict zone?



CIA Factbook 2004 - Antarctica

"Antarctic Treaty freezes claims (see Antarctic Treaty Summary in Government type entry); sections (some overlapping) claimed by Argentina, Australia, Chile, France, NZ, Norway, and UK; the US and most other states do not recognize the territorial claims of other states and have made no claims themselves (the US and Russia reserve the right to do so); no claims have been made in the sector between 90 degrees west and 150 degrees west; several states with land claims in Antarctica have expressed their intention to submit data to the UN Commission on the Limits of the Continental Shelf to extend their continental shelf claims to adjoining undersea ridges"

Karn Australia!! w007.

We claim the most of antarctica ;P

$7/gallon...

as gw says-

"BRING IT ON!"

Originally posted by Skadi_the_Evil_Elf
Ethanol. We have entire states that grow nothing but corn. Get the picture?

Corn. Greedy arab monarchies, terrorists, and sleaze bag enron jokers, beware. Good luck bombing the state of Iowa.

Alcohol can be produced by a lot of other crops than just corn. Potatoes is a high yielding crop that could be used too. Basically you can use about any crop that farmers produce. A lot of food that is produced in this country every year is never gathered because of low prices or no demand for it. If these crops were gathered and used to produce alcohol, it could put a dent in the oil imports. Even trees can be used to produce alcohol.

Originally posted by SpittinCobra
If I have to pay 7 dollars a gallon. Im walking.

Yep, I said that I would too.... when it got to $1/gal.. Oh well, I'm still driving.

Originally posted by HeirToBokassa

Originally posted by Ouizel
The only people that don't see this as a major problem are the economists, who think that growth without end is actually possible.

Um, no, economists don't think that. Investment advisors, on the other hand, and their counterparts on "business television" and in the media who want to hype up the markets for their own profit... they might think that, or rather want you to imagine that they think that.

Anyways the oil companies are sitting on all these alternative energy patents, preventing alternative fuels from being developed and exploited. Once the market price of oil goes high enough, they'll budge. And yeah, it's not going to be pretty for the economy. Any suggestions?

Bush wants to drill in ANWR. If times are so desperate that we need to do that then I say we must also revoke the alternate energy patents that the oil companies are sitting on. What will happen is that the oil companies will first rip us off on the price of oil and hold off on releasing alternatives in order to create an artificial demand to justify unnaturally high prices for the new technology. I say if you sit on the patents then you lose them.

The problem that I see for ethanol as a replacement for oil, is that it cannot be used like oil in fertilizers, herbicides, and pesticides, so the crop yields are going to drop dramatically. Without oil-based fertilizers, the current cropland's soils are depleted, and won't support crops like they do now. We will need every bit of cropland to feed people. Using edible crops for fuel won't be an option.

Now's the time to begin implementing alternative energy sources. Even if we begin right now, we may be too late to stop the impending cataclysmic collapse.

And, that's not even factoring in the fact that the earth now has about 3 times more people that it can support without added energy.

Does the term "Die-off" mean anything to you?

Organic mass can be used as a raw material to produce much of what is now made of oil.

Originally posted by Aelita
Organic mass can be used as a raw material to produce much of what is now made of oil.

Then they should send all the criminals to the Antarctica.
For future oil.

Organic mass (biomass) can be used to produce oil, probably in a similar way that diamonds can be made. The process is called thermal depolymerization. It uses primarily agricultural waste as feedstock. If all of the agricultural waste was used in this type operation, it would amount to less than 10% of our yearly oil requirements in the US.

Not a viable option.

[edit on 24-8-2004 by Ouizel]

Buy Hybrids. They get 60 miles to the gallon in the city. Cut your gas consumption in half and if you live in the USA big yearly tax breaks for owning one.

It�s just a question of time before most Americans would have to start buying more economical cars than they do nowadays.
These big monsters they have eat too much fuel.

And sign up on that Kyoto Agreement will you, please?
The Bush Administration has rejected measures to limit carbon dioxide emissions like those included in the Kyoto Agreement, which could slow global warming.
As our norwegian Foreign Minister, Jan Petersen said :
"The US should have ratified the Kyoto pact." I Agree to that

considering they sell gas made purely from corn in my town for 2.50 i dont see it happening. we have lots and lots of corn fields, there will just be less left over for other countries to eat.

Originally posted by spangbr
considering they sell gas made purely from corn in my town for 2.50 i dont see it happening. we have lots and lots of corn fields, there will just be less left over for other countries to eat.

Lets see how many cornfields are still there in the future.
You don�t think the global warming will have any effect on the cornfields at all?
When cars start using seawater as fuel, then there will be no shortage...
BTW, Putin will ship his oil to Iran.
How about that?
Do you think that will be a pain in the butt for Bush or what?