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Jamaican ghost throws a kid around in front of news camera

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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:24 PM
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jamaicans have a history of being fast on their feet i belive.

Your argument is valid enough without this bit of tripe. As far as the vid in itself,,,the first one does appear to be fake,,,(open door,the positioning of his feet and as previously stated,his shirt does bulge out before the "pull"). The second could be fake as well( we dont see his right foot, which could be used to move him in the direction hes being "pulled"). What does grab my attention(as stated in another reply),,,hes does appear to have both legs being "pulled" as hes in his mothers arms,,,but who knows! s&f



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 06:34 PM
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Yep- watched it back and forwards a few times and its very unusual- the second one, after the woman grabs him, both his legs are off the ground for a second as though being pulled from behind- would be very difficult to perform on your own. and I know what people are seeing when they say his thigh is flexing, but I think it is as a result of him trying to regain his balance- also, we have to remember that he can 'see' this alleged spirit, so that could account for some of his reactions. If it is a fake, its a good one



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 07:01 PM
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well, you bring good points and i do agree with some of what your saying , but think we both can agree here that neater you nor i can fully be right about weather or not ghosts are real, it cant be dis-proven or proven , what ever the case may be .. i just want to know weather or not this event is real or made up



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 09:29 PM
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wow i just watched it in super slow motion and ill tell you ,they both look super real ,
i dont get it ...i cant tell if its real or fake to be very honest here



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 09:46 PM
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Hmmm, I agree, this is definitely faked. You can tell, especially near the end when the boy's leg is "being pulled by the ghost." He's totally just doing all of that himself. I've never seen a legit video of a ghost attacking anyone.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by pplrnuts
This ladies first split second reaction was a swift movement (with NO shock or hesitation whatsoever) toward the child. To me this is exactly how a person reacts when they KNOW something is to occur...


Why would she be shocked at this, given that they state it happens frequently? Maybe she's used to it?

This is a dark entity imitating his friend - they do that often. I encourage people not to dismiss the supernatural so easily because if you convince yourself it's not real and one day you are confronted by it, you will lose your mind.



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 10:06 PM
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Holy crap the video at 1:55 did not look natural at all not so much when his left leg went up but when the women caught him and his leg swung around...not a natural movment from a leg...looked like it was thrown over...pretty freaking creapy...however in the chair portion of the video the youth does appear to be smiling when picked up...
edit on 20-11-2010 by chrismarco because: missed one thing



posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 10:53 PM
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The chair almost returns to it's original position after she grabs him out of it. I found that weird. As if something pushes the chair back as she grabs him up. But, he starts yelling at the same time his leg lifts when he was outside against the wall. Like it was scripted. Who knows? Like others have said, how do you prove or disprove this without being there?
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posted on Nov, 20 2010 @ 11:33 PM
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ya i have come to the conclusion that , their is nothing i can do to debunk this video , ...file it away i guess



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 12:54 AM
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Just wish the mother hadn't grab the kid. She should allow the "whatever" to do whatever it wants with the boy. That way, we'll be able to tell once and for all if this is for real.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 01:14 AM
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Interesting footage. Thank you for sharing.

I'd be very interested to see some further analysis of this phenomenon.

With regards to the first incident. What do you make of the audio - do you associate the sound heard with that of a plastic chair being pushed backwards on concrete? I don't.

Perhaps the microphone is influencing what we hear, or even the chair itself (for example uneven legs or debris between the chair and floor), but having played it several times it sounds as though the chair is vibrating/resonating. You can clearly hear the 'bum..bum..bum..bum' that seems to go on quite a while. If I were sitting on a plastic chair and suddenly had to get up due to an emergency I'd expect to hear a much shorter noise, with less variation.

Also, if you look at the boy's knees you can clearly see them vibrating.

More on his movements. As he travels backwards towards the door, look at the motions of his hands and feet. His motions seem involuntary, as in a natural defense mechanism against being man-handled.

If this phenomenon can be conjured up with such apparent ease then I hope we see more observations. Perhaps trigger objects could be used if the boy is under too much risk to be left unsupervised.
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posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 01:15 AM
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I bet he has actually watched Paranormal Activity on DVD and we watch him now.
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posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 05:50 AM
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The first clip looks a bit questionable, only because of the chair as it's quite a large prop, but the second clips looks quite real... his leg actually looks like it's being yanked... hmm interesting



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 06:14 AM
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Yeah, faked it for money, that was my impression. You can see his quadriceps tense just before the movement, and I swear he is laughing/grinning as they pull him off the scene. Also, I think whoever filmed it might be in on it as well, as they seem to be having a bit of a fake conversation - where there is nothing audible going on with the mic in front of the kid's face.. what are they talking about? He says, 'yea you know..' or something to that effect, I watched it about 30 minutes ago I can't remember fully. At any rate, good for them, that country is very poor and if you consider how much Americans spend on watching even worse actors in even worse films, any money these guys pull together is a blessing!




posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 07:13 AM
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Another mystery about this video is the interview with the guy in the street, what the hell did he say???
I think the best way to figure out what's going on here is to keep a close eye on the boy,the family need a video camera so that they can document each "attack", I also think they should give the boy some protective head gear and instead of his mum rushing to save him each time they should just let things pan out and see where "ghost boy" takes him. He doesn't seem to have been seriously injured by these attacks so I would be inclined to see what happens if no one was to intervene.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 07:30 AM
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I agree, after the chair scene I thought it was BS, but next to the wall it looked like he came off the ground. pretty cool



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 07:39 AM
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Logically, if the first one is faked, the second one is faked, as well, it's just being done in a way that is less obvious than the first. If one has a legitimate phenomenon, they don't need to fake anything, so if any of it is fake... it is all fake.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 07:43 AM
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That´s not easy to debunk. Have never seen such a good video.
In the second part you see how his legs were throwing away from his body.
The slow motion at the end shows it perfectly. This woman holds him and his legs are making those impossible looking swirl. But it does not look like he would tense his muscles to do it, he´s only holding that woman. Crazy.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 07:56 AM
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The first incident could be explained by a high-tensile fishing line being tied to the back of the chair. The same with the second. He is smiling right after the chair is snatched backwards.

But there's something definitely pulling his leg in the second video. It's creepy, but I'm not 100% sure.



posted on Nov, 21 2010 @ 08:08 AM
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This is a very interesting video, with many polarised views expressed about it. I come from a belief that we continue a conscious existence of some form after we die, but I no longer accept that belief. After 30 years of (lay) research seeking evidence to convince myself that my prior belief was true, I finally came off the fence and opted for no conscious existence after we die. That's my stance, and I am now highly sceptical, but remain 'open-minded' to the possibility.

Even so, this video shows a young Jamaican boy pulled across a floor whilst sat in a chair, and later whilst outside, he has his left leg seemingly grabbed and pulled from under him. If this video is a hoax, it's a pretty good one, and the mechanics of the movements have to have be done with wires, but we don't see any.

The reaction of the boy is such that he presents a positve reaction to his unseen assailant's acts toward him. The boy is by now used to being assailed but is not comfortable with it, equally so, the mother. When something occurs her instinct is to protect her child. On both occassions shown on the video, there are plenty of people present, including the TV crew, and if the family are hoaxing these events for whatever reason, then we have to assume that the TV crew (and all the other people present) are also in on the act? Otherwise, we have to conclude that the events depicted are in fact genuine, and that no hoax machinations were there to uncover.

I would suppose that our own views and reasoning toward the video, and what is presented in it, will say a lot about ourselves. No one wants to be seen to be fooled and taken for a 'sap', but we cannot (as viewers) determine the veracity of the video from our comfortable chairs in our own homes. We can give opinions, but that is all...and it is your opinion that declares a lot about you to the whole world.

For me, the jury is still out. I do not know enough of the story, it's factual, chronological history, to be able to make a accurate and informed decision as to the genuiness of the video...no one can.



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