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Christians must brace themselves for a "new form of persecution" driven by homosexual activists and their ideological accomplices, an Italian cardinal has said.
Freedom of thought and expression is under threat from the gay rights movement, said Cardinal Giacomo Biffi, the retired archbishop of Bologna, in memoirs that are published on Thursday. And the result is that those people who disagreed with the homosexual agenda are being ostracised by society, he said.
"The ideology of homosexuality" – as often happens to ideologies when they become aggressive and end up being politically triumphant "becomes a threat to our legitimate autonomy of thought: those who do not share it risk condemnation to a kind of cultural and social marginalisation," said Cardinal Biffi.
The attacks on freedom of thought start with language," he wrote. "Those who do not resign themselves to accept 'homophilia' ... are charged with 'homophobia'."
So a persons right to have a sexual relationship with who they wish has suddenly become a threat to christian "legitimate autonomy" ?????
"becomes a threat to our legitimate autonomy of thought: those who do not share it risk condemnation to a kind of cultural and social marginalisation,"
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Whereas recognition of the inherent dignity and of the equal and inalienable rights of all members of the human family is the foundation of freedom, justice and peace in the world,
Whereas disregard and contempt for human rights have resulted in barbarous acts which have outraged the conscience of mankind, and the advent of a world in which human beings shall enjoy freedom of speech and belief and freedom from fear and want has been proclaimed as the highest aspiration of the common people,
Whereas it is essential, if man is not to be compelled to have recourse, as a last resort, to rebellion against tyranny and oppression, that human rights should be protected by the rule of law,
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•Everyone has the right to freedom of thought, conscience and religion; this right includes freedom to change his religion or belief, and freedom, either alone or in community with others and in public or private, to manifest his religion or belief in teaching, practice, worship and observance.
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•Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.
Article 20.
•(1) Everyone has the right to freedom of peaceful assembly and association.
•(2) No one may be compelled to belong to an association.
Article 16.
•(1) Men and women of full age, without any limitation due to race, nationality or religion, have the right to marry and to found a family. They are entitled to equal rights as to marriage, during marriage and at its dissolution.
•(2) Marriage shall be entered into only with the free and full consent of the intending spouses.
•(3) The family is the natural and fundamental group unit of society and is entitled to protection by society and the State.
Article 22.
•Everyone, as a member of society, has the right to social security and is entitled to realization, through national effort and international co-operation and in accordance with the organization and resources of each State, of the economic, social and cultural rights indispensable for his dignity and the free development of his personality.
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•All are equal before the law and are entitled without any discrimination to equal protection of the law. All are entitled to equal protection against any discrimination in violation of this Declaration and against any incitement to such discrimination.
Article 1.
•All human beings are born free and equal in dignity and rights.They are endowed with reason and conscience and should act towards one another in a spirit of brotherhood.
Article 2.
•Everyone is entitled to all the rights and freedoms set forth in this Declaration, without distinction of any kind, such as race, colour, sex, language, religion, political or other opinion, national or social origin, property, birth or other status. Furthermore, no distinction shall be made on the basis of the political, jurisdictional or international status of the country or territory to which a person belongs, whether it be independent, trust, non-self-governing or under any other limitation of sovereignty.
our legitimate autonomy of thought:
Originally posted by stormson
replace the word homophobia with racist.
Originally posted by The Djin
So please take the time to explain howedit on 18-11-2010 by The Djin because: was not a one line post quote didn't work
Originally posted by SevenBeans
Where to start...
With the kids I guess... kids are being pressured into thinking that homosexuality is perfectly healthy and normal. A child expressing a view different than this will be publically reprimanded, looked askance at etc. etc. etc. Of course, most will still see it as abnormal (because it is) but they won't feel free to express their thoughts on this.
Originally posted by Pinke
I'm going to do one of those annoying 180s ... Have a look:
With the kids I guess... kids are being pressured into thinking that Religion is perfectly healthy and normal. A child expressing a view different than this will be publically reprimanded, looked askance at etc. etc. etc. Of course, most will still see it as abnormal (because it is) but they won't feel free to express their thoughts on this.
Originally posted by Pinke
Quit crying 1984 thought crime etc and get used to the idea that there are people that disagree with you and they're perfectly entitled to. The solution is pretty simple ...
Originally posted by Pinke
Ignore the fact a person is gay, they'll likely ignore the fact you're a raving Christian. Bring it up ... you'll likely argue. I have plenty of religious friends who ignore certain things I do simply because we both know it's not our place to change one another.
Originally posted by SevenBeans
I don't understand the point of this... do you or don't you want kids to feel free to express their own thoughts on issues such as religion and homosexuality?
Not sure when you went to school, but on the rare occasions that religion was mentioned at mine, all opinions (including hostile opinions) were welcome.
Huh? The point is that kids should feel free to express their disagreement and they are being made to feel like they can't do that in the case of homosexuality if they don't agree that it's normal and healthy.
I'm not a Christian at all, let alone a "raving" one. I'm agnostic.
Kids should feel free to voice their opinion about homosexuality (even if they think it's weird, abnormal, unhealthy etc. etc.).
Originally posted by sliceNodice
Gay and lesbian acceptance was invented by the communists so people would turn away from god. You are a dirty communist if you hate religion. You are also a dirty communist is you think it is normal and healthy to be gay or lesbian. That's all there is to it. One day, you will realize the error of your ways when you are enroute to the gas chambers... For some reason I feel sorry for all of you fools.
Originally posted by sliceNodice
Gay and lesbian acceptance was invented by the communists so people would turn away from god. You are a dirty communist if you hate religion. You are also a dirty communist is you think it is normal and healthy to be gay or lesbian. That's all there is to it. One day, you will realize the error of your ways when you are enroute to the gas chambers... For some reason I feel sorry for all of you fools.
Originally posted by BigTimeCheater
Originally posted by sliceNodice
Gay and lesbian acceptance was invented by the communists so people would turn away from god. You are a dirty communist if you hate religion. You are also a dirty communist is you think it is normal and healthy to be gay or lesbian. That's all there is to it. One day, you will realize the error of your ways when you are enroute to the gas chambers... For some reason I feel sorry for all of you fools.
1/10 on the troll meter.
Way too obvious.
Originally posted by Pinke
\Point is ... you're worried about kids growing up thinking homosexuality is perfectly normal and agree with this bishop. I'm worried about my children growing up thinking religion is perfectly normal. Unfortunately we have to get along, and you stating that you're concerned about children growing up with this opinion ... well that's not yours or my decision. That's the child's decision to make when they're older. We should show them that we can maturely provide the options, and coexist and even be friends together though.
Originally posted by Pinke
In *one* way I agree with you. In another way, I think it's no one's business really. Imagine being that one gay child and having everyone discussing your sex life in class and taking a vote to see if they agree? Should we do the same things about BDSM?
Originally posted by Pinke
Adults are worried about one side or the other and it's the cart before the horse. Worry about teaching your children to be respectful and how to think critically and they will make their own minds up. It's also unfair on teachers to put them in this position.
Originally posted by Pinke
Children don't need to know any more than 'people are sometimes gay, it's none of your business really, religion disagrees with it, the end.'
Originally posted by Pinke
Apologies but I'm generalizing in one way ... but you did just agree with a debate point from a Cardinal which effectively boils down to ... OMGS the homos are coming! The homos are coming?!!!11!! .
Originally posted by Pinke
IYes and no.
They should be taught to do it in a respectful way. I'm sure you somewhat agree but a child saying 'homosexuality is abnormal and unhealthy' is no different from me saying 'religious people are all nutters'.
Originally posted by Pinke
Should we start having classes for our KKK members too? Perhaps we should spend an hour of class discussing how it's okay to hate black people? It's a legitimate belief!