"FDA Bans Caffeine In Alcoholic Beverages?"

Originally posted by mnemeth1
And Rockstar is non-alcoholic.

Originally posted by Brood

Originally posted by mnemeth1
And Rockstar is non-alcoholic.

I think that's a knock off.

I don't believe coke makes that product.

The site is foreign and looks like a 10 year old made it.

It certainly doesn't look like a professional coke corporate site.

www.bevnet.com...

LAS VEGAS, NV -- Rockstar Incorporated, maker of Rockstar Energy Drink, today announced that it has completed a distribution agreement with Coca-Cola North America (CCNA) and Coca-Cola Enterprises (CCE). CCE will distribute Rockstar in all of its territories covered in the distribution agreement in the U.S. and Canada except the Northwest and Northern California divisions of CCE. The agreements are effective today, and distribution of Rockstar by CCE is expected to begin by May 31st.

Since its introduction in 2001, when Rockstar created the first 16-ounce energy drink, the brand has experienced growth year after year and firmly established itself as a major player in the beverage industry.

"I compliment Coca-Cola Enterprises and Coca-Cola North America for having the vision and foresight to engage in this phenomenal deal with Rockstar," said Russ Weiner, president and chief executive officer of Rockstar. "Combining the power of the Rockstar brand and what I believe to be the strongest sales and distribution system in North America will take Rockstar to the top."

Under the agreement, Weiner will retain 100% brand ownership.

Of course, the money is in the bar sales of rockstar to use as mixers.

Pre-mixed drinks cuts out those distributors.

Originally posted by BobbinHood
One time I had three Sparks (an alcoholic energy drink) in a row. And let me tell you, it did not feel healthy. My heart felt like it was about to pound out of my chest.

I believe it ... actually combining a stimulant with a depressant/narcotic is one of the worse things one can do for one's heart. A lot of drug overdoses happen as a result of people alternating between uppers and downers in the same session.

As far as the FDA killing alcohol/caffeine drinks whilst letting them contain aspartame unabated tells you all you need to know ... but that agency has been a disgrace for a looong time.

I cringe at the day they'll ban fascism out of soup ... what a thread title that will be.

reply to post by schrodingers dog


I can also verify it really can be an overwhelming experience of a lot of people...I have a strong discipline towards drugs so the effects don't bother me to the extent the average person would. But for the average person, the clarity and energy they have in their drunk may fool them into thinking they aren't that drunk causing them to drink more. It really is essentially a legal speedball.

Personally, even though I'm currently not drinking alcohol for the foreseeable future, it kinda takes away from alcohol anyways. I mean, the sedation effects are what I want when I'm drinking generally.

I know some of us will agree that someone should use their discretion when purchasing and consuming these drinks but outright banning has others up in arms. These drinks can really be dangerous, and from experience they cause a person to be wide awake while drunk causing a person to not be able to determine if they have had enough. I'm guessing this is all based upon the new Four Loko craze.

Originally posted by SpectreDC
reply to post by schrodingers dog

 

I can also verify it really can be an overwhelming experience of a lot of people...I have a strong discipline towards drugs so the effects don't bother me to the extent the average person would. But for the average person, the clarity and energy they have in their drunk may fool them into thinking they aren't that drunk causing them to drink more. It really is essentially a legal speedball.

Personally, even though I'm currently not drinking alcohol for the foreseeable future, it kinda takes away from alcohol anyways. I mean, the sedation effects are what I want when I'm drinking generally.

I like vodka-redbulls

I like jack and cokes

I like captain and cokes

I like jager bombs

I like all that jazz.

I also like being awake when I'm bombed out of my mind.

Excuse me, I think we should ban the FDA and replace it with an agency that actually does the job it is intended to do without going ban crazy.
I love my white Russians...

Originally posted by mnemeth1

I also like being awake when I'm bombed out of my mind.

You don't understand what it means to be in that state truly until you venture into psychedelics, and when you do that instead of a drug that pushes you into mindlessness it pushes you into a state of mindfulness.

Originally posted by laiguana
Excuse me, I think we should ban the FDA and replace it with an agency that actually does the job it is intended to do without going ban crazy.
I love my white Russians...

We should replace the FDA with six year olds who have Tourette syndrome.

Why?

1. Because it would be funny.

2. It would be less damaging to the economy and our freedoms.

Originally posted by laiguana
Excuse me, I think we should ban the FDA and replace it with an agency that actually does the job it is intended to do without going ban crazy.

But that is what its intended purpose is.

That's like yelling at a cat you bought to be a dog for being a cat. It may be advertised as a dog. It may even have some voice manipulation device making it sound like a dog. But damn it, that's a cat and how you can see it any other way is beyond me.

Since you are a little upset over your title being changed, I'll "man up" and say that I was at least one person who alerted about the title being a blatant lie. Because it was. I was going to post first and try to tell you myself, but you really aren't in the business of listening to other sides. At least that's the way it's coming off on my end.

The FDA in no way, shape, or form said they will ban caffeine. Hell, they are only temporarily banning these things upon further review. You came up with a sensationalist slant and ran with it. That's fine.(seems par for the course lately) I think your view on it is very skewed, but that is fine. You have your belief.

Mine is that Four Lokos, Joose etc etc, along with contributing to the lack of correct spelling in society, combine alcohol and caffeine at a dangerous level.

And for the record, I don't like bans. I do think that there should be a different way of going about this. But they did not ban caffeine. They banned the pre mixed combination of alcohol and caffeine upon further review. That's it.

Well I guess it's back to drinking absurd amounts of low quality vodka mixed with whatever energy drink or soda is on sale at the super market ......again. Thanks FDA.

I used to down Sparks all the time and they never had too much of an effect on me, but I was a heavy drinker back then. Four Loko's are terrible tasting, but once you get the down quick enough you'll feel it kick. Of course, I also knwo my limits from years of practice, so I need not worry about a Four Loko overload.

I'm sure there are many local reports of the "dangers" of these lethal mixes. Here in Maryland, its obvious they are gunning to stop the Four Lokos, disgusting tasting stuff, but at 12% and only 2 dollars for an enormous can, I can see why it attracts some. I personally like a Sparks once and awhile, and I have a bad habit of drinking upwards of 8-12 vodka red bull's on a weekend bar outing. However reading the articles around here, you'd think this stuff was peyote:

- On the "Eastern Shore" where the success of your "redneckness" is determined by your alcohol intake and your truck. A girl was "possessed" claimed her friends and family after drinking two of these deadly Four Lokos and proceeded to speed off only to hit a pole. Sad story, all drunk driving decisions are sad and usually end tragically.

- A number of college students in Washington DC became "sick" and required admittance to a hospital. This of course was on Halloween, where we can't say exactly how much these students were drinking, and more importantly, what they were drinking. Of course the criminal in the case was Four Loko, which was the headline story.

- They got a student to say: ""It's basically like a red bull mixed with liquor," Williams said." Another called it "Blackout in a can". Let me tell you, I've had liquor with red bull, and its called a Vodka Red Bull, where sometimes when made generously, it tastes like a cup of vodka. 12% is more like drinking wine with Red Bull. This statement was taken out of a November 5th article, where the propaganda kept mounting and mounting.

I think an earlier poster, not sure if it was the OP, was correct in saying this ban is about the totalitarian control of what gets sold. In this case, the special interests alcohol companies and breweries cannot compete with the extremely cheap price and growing interest in a certain drink, so its declared illegal.

Originally posted by iamsupermanv2
Since you are a little upset over your title being changed, I'll "man up" and say that I was at least one person who alerted about the title being a blatant lie. Because it was. I was going to post first and try to tell you myself, but you really aren't in the business of listening to other sides.

Sir, for doing your patriotic duty and alerting the mods to the obviously erroneous lying fraudulent post title, I award you the Star of Lenin.




Your efforts have saved numerous socialist agitators from wasting precious time by clicking a link to a thread they might not enjoy.

Originally posted by mnemeth1
Given that the FDA has found caffeine to be an unsafe food additive, you can look for its removal from Mt. Dew and Coke soon.

So they take away my rights, and then their going to take away my Mountain Dew?
You havent seen the definition of 'postal', if that happens.

Originally posted by DIDtm

Originally posted by mnemeth1
Given that the FDA has found caffeine to be an unsafe food additive, you can look for its removal from Mt. Dew and Coke soon.

So they take away my rights, and then their going to take away my Mountain Dew?
You havent seen the definition of 'postal', if that happens.

Now now.

Violence is only something socialists and government agents should engage in.

Not respectable libertarians.

Not sure if it has been posted already or not but one of the biggest driving factors that pushed this law through was an alcoholic drink called Loco or Loko:




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They could be found at all of the Circle K convenience stores here in the Southwest USA. For like $2 you get the equivalent to 2 Redbulls and 15% alcohol in that big ass can! They were reported to have the intoxicating effect of a 6 pack of beer per can! Man trust me I had the watermelon flavored one ONCE and with the first drink I knew that it would only take a couple to be pretty plastered lol. But yea that chit needed to be regulated if you were to ask me. Uppers/downers at the same time...to the extreme packaged up for cheap like that? Nah. I would rather stick to having my 1 or two Redbulls and Vodka then risk it with a few of those. But to each their own I suppose.

NT

This combination is unsafe. It should be banned. Too much alcohol can kill you, too. Lets ban that. People die from ingesting too much Aspirin. We should establish a government run agency to dispense 2 Aspirins per person when needed funded by more taxes so people who have no sense of personal responsibility aren't discriminated against.

But really, I've had redbull & vodka and tried this 4 Loko stuff. Even have 2 of 'em in the fridge. (Shhhh, don't tell! I don't want my door broke down and arrested!) I quite enjoy having a few RedBull & Vodkas to start off the night, while switching to beer later. Sure, if you abuse something it can turn around and hurt you. That goes for many things you can still get legally. Doesn't mean you should ban them, IMO.

Originally posted by DiabolusFireDragon
This combination is unsafe. It should be banned. Too much alcohol can kill you, too. Lets ban that. People die from ingesting too much Aspirin. We should establish a government run agency to dispense 2 Aspirins per person when needed funded by more taxes so people who have no sense of personal responsibility aren't discriminated against.

But really, I've had redbull & vodka and tried this 4 Loko stuff. Even have 2 of 'em in the fridge. (Shhhh, don't tell! I don't want my door broke down and arrested!) I quite enjoy having a few RedBull & Vodkas to start off the night, while switching to beer later. Sure, if you abuse something it can turn around and hurt you. That goes for many things you can still get legally. Doesn't mean you should ban them, IMO.

We should ban 40's and menthol cigarettes too.