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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
reply to post by digginapony
I like the sentiment of your post, and I agree for the most part. Most people don't realize that the US openly admits that Israel/The Mossad are involved in more clandestine activity inside the United States than any other nation. Why, if they are such a great ally, are they literally spying on us?
That being said, I have to point something out. In your first paragraph, you made a comment 'because the Muslims are terrorists', and while I assume you said this to get a point across, it was hard for me to get passed this comment. Muslims are not terrorists. Some are, just as some christians are, just as some atheists and pagans are. But a comment such as 'muslims are terrorists' is inflammatory, naive, and dangerous.
Originally posted by digginapony
Ummm.....are you sure read my post???? That was my whole point. People have been trained to think Muslims are terrorists. Why is that?? What is happening in the media to create this erroneous perception? Why do most people associate terrorist with Muslims? Is there someone in control of the media to make people accept this generalization? I do not know how to make this any clearer. MUSLIMS ARE NOT YOUR ENEMY!!!
I am really disturbed that is what you got out of my post. I am worried now people are walking away with the impression. I thought the whole thesis of the post showed quite clearly that was what I was disproving.
Originally posted by Stryker Ops
reply to post by digginapony
You're OP is offensive and narrow minded. You obviously have something against Israeli's in general. Every thread you have made is in defamation of the "Zionist State of Israel". Who in their right minds wouldn't fight for their belief that they should have land in the holy ground (i.e. where their religion Judaism was founded.) You try to use Zionist as a movement which is evil incarnate when in fact it is a delineation of people who believe that they have a right to be in their homeland.
Why we align with them I can't pretend to have all the answers however as the OP you should provide facts without the biased intentions that presume that the "Zionist State of Israel" is evil when in fact it is nothing more than a territorial squabble between to religiously divided people.
This a mere squabble? There are over 4 million Palestinian refugees. Israel hold the record for the most homes being demolished by destroying over 60,000 homes of Palestinians. This is not about a "safe "haven." Look at the map on the web page enclosed at the bottom of this post. Look at the transfer of land from Palestinian land to Israeli land in a matter of a mere half-century. Anyone who says this is about a safe haven for Jews or simply about survival is absolutely delusional. Innocent Jews absolutely should be protected. I would dfend with my life men like Rabbi Weiss who put human beings before this purely political issue. Zionism uses Judaism, and abuses it, to further its materialistic aims. It is purely about materialism and has nothing to do with spirituality.
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Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by digginapony
Ummm.....are you sure read my post???? That was my whole point. People have been trained to think Muslims are terrorists. Why is that?? What is happening in the media to create this erroneous perception? Why do most people associate terrorist with Muslims? Is there someone in control of the media to make people accept this generalization? I do not know how to make this any clearer. MUSLIMS ARE NOT YOUR ENEMY!!!
I am really disturbed that is what you got out of my post. I am worried now people are walking away with the impression. I thought the whole thesis of the post showed quite clearly that was what I was disproving.
Yes I read it, which is why i made sure to point out that you said it to make a point.
Did you read my post? It doesnt matter what your intention for posting something like that. it is still inflammatory and dangerous. I said that I agreed with y our sentiment. But when you start with a line like that, you are no different. You are speaking in extremes to try and get people to come to your point of view.
What I came away with from your post is that you are sensationalistic, and while you are passing good info, it is lost in the way you present it.
Originally posted by digginapony
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by digginapony
Ummm.....are you sure read my post???? That was my whole point. People have been trained to think Muslims are terrorists. Why is that?? What is happening in the media to create this erroneous perception? Why do most people associate terrorist with Muslims? Is there someone in control of the media to make people accept this generalization? I do not know how to make this any clearer. MUSLIMS ARE NOT YOUR ENEMY!!!
I am really disturbed that is what you got out of my post. I am worried now people are walking away with the impression. I thought the whole thesis of the post showed quite clearly that was what I was disproving.
Yes I read it, which is why i made sure to point out that you said it to make a point.
Did you read my post? It doesnt matter what your intention for posting something like that. it is still inflammatory and dangerous. I said that I agreed with y our sentiment. But when you start with a line like that, you are no different. You are speaking in extremes to try and get people to come to your point of view.
What I came away with from your post is that you are sensationalistic, and while you are passing good info, it is lost in the way you present it.
Wow.
The point was the majority of people, especially in the United States walk away thinking Muslims are terrorists. They do not know the acts of terrorism that have been committed by other groups. I really do not possess the talent to make that any clearer.
If you are truly walking away thinking I am trying to state Muslims are terrorists without recognizing the rhetorical question as a way to show the flaws in the thinking of a lot of people, I truly am disappointed.
Me: "Do you hate Christmas because Santa Claus rapes the mom's of the children he delivers toys to in the middle of the night."
You: "Whoa, dude!! That is highly insensitive. You are only furthering the stereotype of Santa Claus being a sociopath rapist. You make some good points, but this is highly inflammatory."
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by digginapony
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by digginapony
Ummm.....are you sure read my post???? That was my whole point. People have been trained to think Muslims are terrorists. Why is that?? What is happening in the media to create this erroneous perception? Why do most people associate terrorist with Muslims? Is there someone in control of the media to make people accept this generalization? I do not know how to make this any clearer. MUSLIMS ARE NOT YOUR ENEMY!!!
I am really disturbed that is what you got out of my post. I am worried now people are walking away with the impression. I thought the whole thesis of the post showed quite clearly that was what I was disproving.
Yes I read it, which is why i made sure to point out that you said it to make a point.
Did you read my post? It doesnt matter what your intention for posting something like that. it is still inflammatory and dangerous. I said that I agreed with y our sentiment. But when you start with a line like that, you are no different. You are speaking in extremes to try and get people to come to your point of view.
What I came away with from your post is that you are sensationalistic, and while you are passing good info, it is lost in the way you present it.
Wow.
The point was the majority of people, especially in the United States walk away thinking Muslims are terrorists. They do not know the acts of terrorism that have been committed by other groups. I really do not possess the talent to make that any clearer.
If you are truly walking away thinking I am trying to state Muslims are terrorists without recognizing the rhetorical question as a way to show the flaws in the thinking of a lot of people, I truly am disappointed.
Me: "Do you hate Christmas because Santa Claus rapes the mom's of the children he delivers toys to in the middle of the night."
You: "Whoa, dude!! That is highly insensitive. You are only furthering the stereotype of Santa Claus being a sociopath rapist. You make some good points, but this is highly inflammatory."
OK, seems this isnt getting through to you. This is the third time now that I have pointed out that you said it to get your point across. I understand that it is not what you actually think.
Do you understand that you are ABSOLUTELY playing into sensationalism by using this type of statement to make your point? I'm guessing that is lost on you.
You can make your point without bringing sensationalism into it. When you play into that game you are no different that those on the other side of the argument. You stand against their sensationalism by.... wait for it......using sensationalism.
Quality
As for your little "me" "you" quotes, well, all you did there was verify to me that you are either a juvenile, or are as smart as one.
Originally posted by digginapony
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by digginapony
Me: "Do you hate Christmas because Santa Claus rapes the mom's of the children he delivers toys to in the middle of the night."
You: "Whoa, dude!! That is highly insensitive. You are only furthering the stereotype of Santa Claus being a sociopath rapist. You make some good points, but this is highly inflammatory."
Do the nurses always let you use the internet? What on earth is that supposed to be about? It's obvious you are very anti Israeli, I personally disagree with you but that is your right to blame a nation for perceived bad things carried out by the few (hey, not like you couldn't say that about any other nation is it?) but then you come up with such an absolutely addled statement and you don't expect people to pull you up on it?
Originally posted by something wicked
Originally posted by digginapony
Originally posted by captaintyinknots
Originally posted by digginapony
Me: "Do you hate Christmas because Santa Claus rapes the mom's of the children he delivers toys to in the middle of the night."
You: "Whoa, dude!! That is highly insensitive. You are only furthering the stereotype of Santa Claus being a sociopath rapist. You make some good points, but this is highly inflammatory."
Do the nurses always let you use the internet? What on earth is that supposed to be about? It's obvious you are very anti Israeli, I personally disagree with you but that is your right to blame a nation for perceived bad things carried out by the few (hey, not like you couldn't say that about any other nation is it?) but then you come up with such an absolutely addled statement and you don't expect people to pull you up on it?
Has any other country attacked the United States and given awards of appreciation to the survivors of such an attack? Is there any country that has done this that is considered a great ally to the United States while receiving billions and billions of dollars of aid every single year?
What other countries could I have said that about?
Originally posted by digginapony
reply to post by Sly1one
The first step is to identify the problem, brother. Do the majority of people in your life know the truth. This is the first step. One must clearly understand the problem before it can be solved. Good luck!
Originally posted by digginapony
reply to post by digginapony
Has any other country attacked the United States and given awards of appreciation to the survivors of such an attack? Is there any country that has done this that is considered a great ally to the United States while receiving billions and billions of dollars of aid every single year?
What other countries could I have said that about?