Proof of extra dimensions soon says CERN

Ohh, this is interesting, fingers crossed:

Scientists at the CERN research centre say their Big Bang project is going beyond all expectations and the first proof of the existence of dimensions beyond the known four could emerge next year.

In surveys of results of nearly eight months of experiments in their Large Hadron Collider (LHC), they also say they may be able to determine by the end of 2011 whether the mystery Higgs particle, or boson, exists.

Guido Tonelli, spokesman for one of the CERN specialist teams monitoring operations in the vast, subterranean LHC, said probing for extra dimensions - besides length, breadth, height and time - would become easier as the energy of the proton collisions in it is increased in 2011.

tvnz.co.nz...

This is great..

Now for ATS scientists, are there extra dimensions? Some claim there is up to 12, some up to 7, I don't know where I read that, but I remember.

What are your thoughts on this?

Will the GOD particle be found or not, if not, what will be the results in the scientific field.

And if new dimensions are found, what will the implication be?

oz

Fantastic work by the CERN team, years ahead of progress I believe! I dont think anyone expected to this far in just a few months!

Here's an article explaining the dimensions, and theoretical extra dimensions that might exist, which CERN is trying to prove.

This article also has GOD involved, just to keep you interested.

Watch out, very simple, due to simplicity, very huge, but will not bore you one bit:

xenlogic.wordpress.com...

EASY EXPLANATION OF 10 DIMENSIONS:

Will our minds be able to see and do what ever with that extra dimension?

Its probably hard for us. But just imagine being in a 2d world, and the difference it would be from 3d world, massive.

Any ideas on what extra dimension may be, and how will it be percieved by our brain, maybe in time. Who knows how science will adapt these things for us?

Originally posted by andy1033
Will our minds be able to see and do what ever with that extra dimension?

Its probably hard for us. But just imagine being in a 2d world, and the difference it would be from 3d world, massive.

Any ideas on what extra dimension may be, and how will it be percieved by our brain, maybe in time. Who knows how science will adapt these things for us?

Watch the video I posted, and there is a second part for that video, here is the link:

www.youtube.com...

It explains it very simplistically.

We effect these dimensions without knowing, so if we learn more about them, we can manipulate them just like everything else.

One of the dimension is time, if we learn more, we can manipulate time. Watch the video, it is easy to understand and great.

You are all impossible to move. I have spoke of major concerns over the LHC not because of black holes but from dimensional rip. I have said my concerned on this for the past 2 years and have been brushed aside for the last time. THis is my major concern to everyone and no one is listening again at all. We do not even know enough about our dimension much lest another. come on people take heed. again, been talking about this for 2+ years

Certainly exciting news.
But how do we know if these will be good dimensions or bad dimensions?

With the polarities in nature and science being what they are, something tells me we just might get a little of both good and bad. One thing is for sure, scientists do not know for certain what may be waiting to enter into this dimension, they just might be opening up the gates of hell.

When we get the proof of the existence of 10 dimensions to our universe... it will validate the Extended Heim Theory. General Relativity and Quantum Theory will be unified, and allow the existence of the Heim antigrav, free energy, and FTL hyperspace travel to be viable. We will finally be able to build inter-stellar flying saucers, and throw rocket science into a museum.

Pretty amazing stuff, Dr. Michio Kaku talks about as many as 11 deminsions and the multi-verse, he has done massive reseach on this topic.

www.mkaku.org...

Black Holes, Wormholes and the Tenth Dimension
What lies on the other side of a black hole? Discover the quest to find a ‘theory of everything’, which could finally explain some of the strangest objects in the cosmos and beyond.

mkaku.org...

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That's what the Extended Heim Theory is - a 'theory of everything'. In addition to uniting General Relativity and Quantum Theory, it also includes dark matter and dark energy forces.

In 2nd world, I want to be taller, thinner and with more hair!

Just so long as they don't let Bizzarro Superman through it!

The article is also provided on ABC news:

"Proof of Extra Dimensions Possible Next Year: CERN"
abcnews.go.com...

Excellent video. Find more. S&F.

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Now for ATS scientists, are there extra dimensions? Some claim there is up to 12, some up to 7, I don't know where I read that, but I remember.

Are there extra dimensions? YES. Can we visualize or imagine them? Almost certainly NO. Our human mind can probably understand and visualize 1 more dimension, as it intersects with the 3 we know (plus time, but we don't visualize time.) Trying to comprehend anything beyond one additional dimension would be impossible with our understanding of physical properties. But, mathematically, we use many dimensions, and it is helpful in reaching complicated conclusions. It is almost certain that amny dimensions exist outside of what we can comprehend, but we can illustrate them in mathematical modeling. We use Linear Algebra (Matrix Math), and we use Calculus and Geometry to include many more than 3 or 4 dimensions.

Perhaps some of us can somehow experience those other dimensions in a physical sense, and that is where ESP, or Precognition come from? I don't know. I read somewhere that scientific studies have proven certain species of cats have precognition of several milliseconds, so it must come from somewhere.

I discovered extra dimensions in 2009. I have pictures to prove them. And i did not do this with a 5 billion dollar budget i did it with less than 500$.

everything you can see has many dimensions you cannot see.

Cool.

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Now, as I've mentioned numerous times around here, I'm a Physics student with a focus on Quantum Mechanics, and I've been interested in the topic for almost half my life. However, I've always been amused by the fact that, if someone, say, on ATS claimed there were 10 dimensions in the universe, and/or that there were multiple, possibly infinite, universes, he would be laughed at by the scientific community. But, take a few scientists and give them a toy and a few million dollars, and they say the same thing, and everyone thinks it's the most ingenious idea in the history of science.

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Are there extra dimensions? YES. Can we visualize or imagine them? Almost certainly NO. Our human mind can probably understand and visualize 1 more dimension, as it intersects with the 3 we know (plus time, but we don't visualize time.) Trying to comprehend anything beyond one additional dimension would be impossible with our understanding of physical properties.

Ahh, nay nay so you say. I'll briefly explain to you another dimension and show you that it is quite possible to imagine yet another dimension. It may cause slight mental problems by the time I'm done, but hey, all in the name of science.

We go throughout our days and never even think about how our actions may be influencing another unknown dimension. Or how another unknown dimension is influencing us. Have you ever sat down next to a campfire and watched the flames dance hypnotically toward the sky? Have you found yourself suddenly motionless and deeply entrenched in your own thoughts?

At this point there is nothing that is impossible inside your mind. Or is the condition you find yourself in during these times better explained by nothingness? Your stuck in your motionless psychosis until drawn out of it by a deliberate action to do so from the third dimension.

We view our three dimensions as being linear and I cannot argue that this is the case. Length, width and depth all have a starting point and ending point and are straight from what we can perceive. We define each of these three dimensions as being independent of one another when trying to define them. We see how well these three dimensions coalesce with each other to bring us our reality as we know it in one defined dimension that we call the third dimension.

When we fall into a daydream our eyes still behold this magnificent third dimension that we are in but we have deliberately let ourselves fall into the spell like state of daydreaming. It is at this moment that another dimension is being accessed and considered.

Normally it's like we are riding in an enclosed boat on the ocean. The inside of our boat is the three dimensional world that we know so well but the ocean that we are riding on cannot be seen by us unless we open a hatch and behold it. The hatch is found on occasion by everyone in the boat and they have all beheld the ocean rushing by under them and fell under its trans like influence but the hatches are always closed relatively quickly and when they are closed no one even brings to remembrance the ocean rushing by under them. They just get busy in their three dimensional world again.

I propose that when we daydream, we are opening a hatch into another dimension whose attributes cannot be described by using any geometrical shapes that we know of. It is more like a warm, floating mass of lighter than air water that pours in through the open hatch and encompasses our whole body. As our now rhythmic breathing draws this dimension into our lungs it is distributed throughout the inside of our body as well by means of our arteries and veins and we surrender to it wholly as our mind explores its possibilities.

This my friends is the dimension that separates our three dimensions into observable components but holds them together at a defined interval. It is the fabric that allows us to perceive all of our perceptual dimensions at the same time. When we are enveloped by this dimension that is undefinable we have actually situated ourselves between length, width and depth and are now floating carelessly yet with purpose as we are automatically and unknowingly maintaining the interval between the three dimensions yet engaging none of them.

The dimension can be traversed and explored further to obtain more information about its properties and boundaries, but I haven't been able to maintain my position in it for very long. For if I could, I know I can find the outer edge of this dimension and pass into the dimension that maintains the fog like dimension's boundaries.

That particular dimension can be described as more of a dark gelatinous solid that creates the space between the attoseconds that maintain our perception of time. And when traversed, it compresses the entity into a finite particle and then decompresses it to its original geometrical design so quickly that it is imperceptible to the observer of said entity. An attosecond is one quintillionth of a second and they are what sets the precedent for our hours and months and so on.

So you see, there are two more dimensions. The space between our known dimensions that when happened upon creates nothingness and is undefinable by geometry as it is fluid and moving. The second being the black gelatinous solid that maintains the fog like dimension's borders and also creates the space between our attoseconds that eventually define our space time. The gelatinous solid cannot be defined mathematically either as no one actually knows when they are happening upon it. Although I believe that deja vu can be attributed to traversing this dimension.

Honestly,
Im a little uneasy about this.

I can see stargate coming soon, accessing those dimensions ...who knows what Beings, Viruses, disease, and other sorts of craziness is there.....

No imagine some of that craziness released into our dimension...

Too many scary scenarios

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Grrr! Looks like I always miss the good stuff!
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Interesting topic all the same, op, thanks!