2012 Nothing is still something.

2012 Nothing is still Something

It is the year 1999...

A man in his 40's commits suicide due to stress. The cause of stress was the Y2K computer issue. Some people believed they would die. Some people rioted. Some people thought our computer systems were going to crash. A big part of the world was consumed with an underlying anxiety that "something might happen".

It is the year 2012...
A few months before December.

Again, the masses have this underlying axiety that "something might happen". This is particularly due to the media. The heads of millions filled with things like "The Mayan Calander", "Aliens", "God", "The rapture", even the movie "2012" and more. All adding up to thoughts way more powerful than computers crashing.

Leading up to the 21st (or whatever date you believe), there will be rioting, death, suicide, and chaos.
This i believe as fact, even if nothing happens on the date of said event. To me this is partly because people are already under a lot of stress and this date could be scary to some, but used as an excuse for others.

What would you do if you thought it was the end? or Rapture? or Aliens?
You might be very frightened as the date closes in.

It is my belief that if nothing happens, it will be a very eye-opening experience for a lot of the world. Nothing is still something. Imagine thinking you were going to die and then............. nothing.
Life continues but you are left with an overwhelming view of the beauty of life because it could have vanished.
You were saved, and given another chance. You value life more than you have ever known.

Could this be the purpose behind 2012? To make us think it could all be over, just to show us how we aren't appreciating life enough as a species. Could this really be the doing of ETs? To show us a new direction? To show us not to take advantage of life because it could be gone just like that? Could it all be just to bring us closer?

So if we don't see any major tangible event happen, than we can at least be satisfied to know that maybe we can value life more. Maybe we can live a little better. Maybe this is the first step in a new evolution of man.

Nice way of putting it my friend, ur right, and why iff the date on the mayan calendar is the end of "pisces". Maybe it ways a calendar for the pisces age..

Good post. I´ve thought the same thing. That if this date in Mayan clander wasn´t this date in our calander or it never ment to say anything about rapid changes in the world, even then this date is not meaningless anymore. So, maybe it´s not that important anymore, what Mayas meant by this, but what our collective councious plus media plus internet are creating for this date. I think it´s great, that we have this one date and so many thoeries, expectetions, speculations around it, because it might be like some kind of rite of passage for humanity. When millions of people are talking about the end of the world (whatever kind of end), for years, and reading about it, discussing it, and the day comes - what will we crate with our thoughts? Both globally and in our personal lives.
We´re living in interesting times eather way

But if I see things going bad, some huge destruction coming, then I think it might be best choice to sit down and meditate. If I´m going to die anyway, then I´d like to do it peacefully

Humans have a need to feel significant, and part of that is believing that we live in significant times (after all, WE are alive). I see this all the time on ATS. Topics pop up regarding some subject (NWO, UFOs, etc.) and people seem convinced that NOW is the time that everything will happen. They turn on the TV and see deaths and natural disasters and interpret that as a sign that the world is at its tipping point.

I can't predict the future. For all I know, martial law could be declared tomorrow and next week there could be a full-scale alien invasion. However, I CAN say that there always has been and always will be corrupt leaders, deadly diseases/pandemics, natural disasters, dangerous space objects, death, war, and general panic and mania. Humans have lived through massive volcanic eruptions, devastating plagues, and two world wars. An old calendar isn't going to break our streak.

When 2012 passes without incident, here's what will happen:

-Some people will say "I told you so." and go on with their lives
-Some people will scour the news for any and all negative events and attribute them to the 2012 phenomenon
-Some people will be convinced that calculations were off and the true Mayan doomsday is still to come (remember that Simpsons episode?)
-Some people will just find a new date to fear
-Some people will attribute the safe passage into 2013 to their god or deity

Et cetera, et cetera.


On a final note, most people who seriously study Mayan culture think the whole 2012 thing is rubbish.

I think this cartoon is applicable:

reply to post by Tsuki-no-Hikari


You should take into consideration that people today will believe anything especially the media.
People buy into things so deeply that they allow themselves to be consumed with fear.
Fear can become pandemic. People have feared the unknown since the dawn of time.
We are at a place in society today, where everyone and everything is connected.
MUCH UNLIKE our past.
We carry on with our daily lives but this 2012 issue is lying dormant in the minds of millions.
Millions.
Only to come flushing out at the last minute in fear.

You've proven my point exactly.
We have overcome so much as a species.
It is because the trials of life have molded us into what we are today.
2012 may shape us into a greater appreciation for existance and all reality as we know it.
It is only going to make us stronger.

Originally posted by pinealexplorer

2012 Nothing is still Something

It is my belief that if nothing happens, it will be a very eye-opening experience for a lot of the world. Nothing is still something. Imagine thinking you were going to die and then............. nothing.
Life continues but you are left with an overwhelming view of the beauty of life because it could have vanished.
You were saved, and given another chance. You value life more than you have ever known.

based upon the number of ATS members that have absolutely no belief that 2012 will bring anything, and the even more number of people in the world that have no expectaions of 2012 bringing anything but the same they are getting today, I would have to say that I don't see 'nothing' happening as having any effect on the world at large.

I also don't see some magical awakening of consciousness throughtout the global population. all I see is more ignorant people spawning even more ignorant children.

in my opinion the only way there would be a more conscious world would be if the greater population was somehow wiped off the planet.

either by our own hand, some off world threat, or a cataclysmic change here on Earth, there has to be some event that causes the remaining people to wake up and realize that we need to overcome the oppression of an elite few that rule us all(bankers, politician, TPTB, whatever you want to call them)

I used to fear something would happen in the coming years that would be bad for us all, but at this point I find it to be the only solution to the problems that we face on a daily basis.

my thoughts exactly, everytime i engage someone in a discussion on 2012 and i hear them say they think itll be nothing this is the exact point i always make to them, i also ask them if they can think of any prophecies or predictions well known which target dates later then 2012, cause it seems like the be all end all of the big long known predictions

Not sure I agree with the the OP on this one. Some people with some mental issues may unfortunately end their own lives, but what makes you think people would riot and kill? Surely the majority of the people who believed the world was going to end would be with their loved ones?

I don't believe any of, I think its absolute tripe and I don't think you will see any of the drama you are predicting as those people would feel pretty stupid and spend the rest of their lives in prison when they wake up on the 22nd and its a beautiful snowy saturday morning to do some more christmas shopping.

Good thoughts in here! The beauty of this scenario is that something will happen, even if it's based around global hype and not a real threatening event! Personally I find there seems like way too many coincidences surrounding 2012 for nothing to happen anyway, but i'm not the least bit scared, in fact I'm looking forward to see how this possible 'global reality show' is going to play out, or if the 'global reality show' is going to get f**ked up and a real massive event takes place!

Whatever happens, I appreciate life and our Mother Earth, but something still NEEDS to happen to wake the rest of the hypnotized population up - or maybe these are the people that will destroy each other in a global panic to clear the path for a renewed global wisdom to take form... at this point it's hard to tell whether it's genuine prophecy, or whether it's a man made agenda... or whether it's a genuine prophecy mounted with a man made agenda lol! Only the time will tell ;-)

Love life! Love it with all your heart!

Peace ..v,

reply to post by pinealexplorer

We all want some transformation to happen on that day and if 10 % of earth population pray for their freedom and transformation, by meditation, i have no doubt that 2012 will happen.

Originally posted by pinealexplorer
Nothing is still something. Imagine thinking you were going to die and then............. nothing.

It happens repeatedly with those who predict the end of the world. Sadly, in many cases it doesn't stop them or open their eyes or even serve as cause to recognize their errant beliefs. Failed doomsday predictions are common on this site and elsewhere in the world. Those obsessed with the end of the world or other catastrophes will ALWAYS find themselves a new date to fawn over. Only the dates change, but rarely the people.

Anyone can predict the end of the world, this has been going on for hundreds of thousands of years, the funny part is these doomsayers are saying that that everything on earth will be destroyed but we should spend our money and prepare, I would like to know for what? Yep build those shelters, buy those books, spend, spend, spend, hey why not when the end comes you won't be needing that money anyway.

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reply to post by pinealexplorer


Nothing is something because we've sensationalised the idea that around 2012 something will happen, if nothing happens, nothing happens, it was never something in the first place but there are those who claim to have some spiritual knowledge or prophetic ability which is absolute nonsense and deception. 2012 will be the same as 2010, and 2011, and 2013 and so on until the sun runs out or some crazy mofo asteroid damages are planet or it's gravitational equilibrium.

Stop spreading nonsense.

If they can't prove it, why trust them?

reply to post by pryingopen3rdeye


Ok. Apparently you do believe in the 2012 hypothesis or whatever we should call it, but your argument that no known prophecies extend the timeline beyond that date is foolish. None of the prophecies I know of contain any specific dates. They all say things like, "sometime in the early part of the twenty-first century." Did you know that Newton came up with his own date for the rapture? He studied all sorts of religious texts, and I'm not sure how but he came up with the year 2060. I have no idea what is going to happen on 12-21-12 other than a solar eclipse but I seriously doubt it's going to be the end of the world. So what if the Mayan calendar runs out on that date? They'll have to make new Mayan calendars.

The Mayans didn't even actually predict the end of the world on 12-21-2012, just a period of darkness for humanity. There's nothing that literally says the world will end on that date. The prophets who predicted that the world would end in the early 21st century were probably merely alluding to the Mayan prediction and assuming, as people tend to do, that the world will end in or around that period of darkness. Intrestingly enough, a solar eclipse is predicted for that date.
Furthermore, its probably not correct to say the Mayan calendar runs out on 12-21-2012. The Mayan calendar actually runs on a cycle. I can't remember how many years are in the cycle, but I know that the last time it 'ran out' was around the year 1500 ce when the Mayan empire was destroyed by the Spanish.
I honestly don't even think we will see any reaction from humanity on that date at all. There was supposed to be rioting when the year 2000 began, because of widespread panic about the Y2K bug. Was there any? Not in the least. I think people are learning to control their irrational fears.

one thing leads to another.
if it makes you more thoughtful,curious
and leads you to be more educated/prepared /resourceful..
then it will always be an adventure into the unknown.

we all got it comin kid.

The difference between y2k and 2012 is that y2k was not really prophecised by ancients and was a construct of modern scientific speculation. 2012 on the other hand is "supported" by different ancient societies and some other stranger events like the St. Malachy visions and what not.