Violence Breaks Out On Student Protest March

reply to post by Uncle Gravity


You are so right, we have to take our country back, it's ours, not the self serving polititians, they are our servants, they are supposed to represent US. They have failed us, they must be sacked, by whatever means !!!

Officers are slowly pushing protesters back from the tower

www.bbc.co.uk...

-Kdial1

Originally posted by Merigold
It didn't' work. The pension age IS getting raised in France, despite the turmoil.

It did however disrupt travel, cause general havoc and destroy peoples property.

At last, someone else that sees the reality of the French protesters myth !

The French Senate has passed the bill, and it will become law later this month.

A week or so of protests, and they just shrug their shoulders and slink back to their State-dependant lives, having achieved absolutely nothing by their demonstrations.

Originally posted by Doyle
Right now I am hearing an interview on BBC news of a "witness" blaming all violence on a sinister 'non-student' group in balaclavas... make your own mind up on the truth and relevance of this.

They're called ''rent-a-mobs''.

You'll find people of this description at any demonstration that has the potential for aggro.

reply to post by Doyle

so anyone have any alternative suggestions to put forward to the people currently protesting?

They could vote. How many of the protesters voted I wonder? How many made meaningful contributions to their communities, contributions which help to actually bring about change?

Not many it seems, too busy updating the face book profiles and Vomiting on sidewalks.

reply to post by NonKonphormist


Nothing wrong with my sight. I can clearly see.

reply to post by Sherlock Holmes


watching this live and can't see much evidence of any 'rent a mobs'

a lot of students are in plain sight wrecking the place, many not bothering to cover their faces.



the whole thing is streaming live on www.skynews.com

Originally posted by Sherlock Holmes

Originally posted by NonKonphormist


The point is that a youngster from a council-estate who smashes the window of his local takeaway has committed exactly the same crime as a student who smashes a window in central London.

Not too many people would defend or justify the actions of the former, but there are apparently some that want to justify the latter.

edit on 10-11-2010 by Sherlock Holmes because: (no reason given)

If someone smashes a take away window on a council estate for no good reason, then they should be dealt with, if someone smashes a window as an act of frustration, or as a symbolic action against a system that is treating them unfairly or failed then IMO it is totally different.
There are different reasons for breaking a window, but by your logic, if someone breaks a window to escape a burning buildng then they too should be penalised?

reply to post by Sherlock Holmes


probably the same muppets that were taking part in the G20
...............
Thats it! thats why the police are doing sweet FA, maybe they are the ones in balaclavas

Fair play to them.
At least some people have the balls to stand up for what they believe in.

I suspect that this will probably be the first of many as Cameron continues his drive to drag this country back to Victorian times.

Merigold you're probably right. I'm a consistant voter using the system to make my voice heard, but as anyone who reads and understands politics knows most people don't vote, and most of those that do are ill informed. Why? Because our population is not educated enough to understand. Why? Because not everyone can afford to go to university, and they are about to narrow that number down even further if the protests fail. History tells us that the powerful like to keep the masses out of the loop, god forbid they start to understand what goes on and oppose policies that help the rich and fail the poor. We don't need a communist government, we don't need a socialist government, but we do need a government that looks out for the people it is supposed to serve and I don't think I've ever seen one in Britain.

reply to post by Merigold


Wow. How stereotypical. Maybe the voters don't bother turning out because voting changes nothing except the puppet. Having been to university I was one of the people "throwing up on sidewalks" but I was in the minority and whilst there I met a lot of respectable people from various back grounds.

Originally posted by Merigold

France proved that sometimes you gotta take things into your own hands

It didn't' work. The pension age IS getting raised in France, despite the turmoil.

It did however disrupt travel, cause general havoc and destroy peoples property.

I agree with the increase in tuition fees. Too many people go to University now. Then, they complain that they are 30k in debt and can't find a job. University should be for a select few. Those who are going into the hard sciences. Those who will be doctors, lawyers, engineers. Instead, you've got people getting useless degrees because they believe they are entitled to a four year party.

For those people who have the academic qualifications and the desire to get a real degree but don't have the finances, I happily agree to have my taxes go to fund their studies.

University isn't for everyone. The UK needs plumbers too. There is no shame in that.

It didnt work in France? Do you think they will continue to raise the pension age there?

Do you know the point of protest? it is meant to disrupt otherwise it has no power at all

You agree with the increase in tuition fees. So you agree that a young person should start their life £50K in debt. Be looking at a lay pay economy for employment and expected to pay for the excesses of Bankers and corrupt politicians. Damed youth have no respect do they. Nor should they.

The UK does not need plumbers as they get these via the low paid common market country's which is why the UK joined it. This leaves those 'not suited' with no career path either.

Well done for swallowing the the bait. Dont listen to the message, look at the news propaganda. No doubt the label of unwashed work shy will be used soon.

reply to post by Merigold


Bo***cks,
How many politicians have made meaningful contributions to their communities lately..........None!!!
Too busy hiring prostitutes, claiming for second houses or sucking up to the banks, you my friend have lost touch with reality!!!!

I am a little surprised about the reaction to this protest in this thread.

A lot of people are calling for all these people to be held accountable for their actions. People are saying this is disgraceful and this action cannot be tolerated.

I think a lot of people are fast asleep and have no idea about what is coming in the future.

Remember this is only students on this occasion.

Watching this on bbc now, seems prettu tame for a suposed riot but even so the sitiation in the uk is getting bad, but its not bad enouth yet to warent violence. The libdems as a party will be finished by next election for being complicit in the tory policies and giving up on their ideals.

reply to post by Doyle

Because our population is not educated enough to understand

I'm offended. I'm not University educated, yet I understand. My parents are not university educated, they understand.

I disagree that people are unable to understand. they ARE able to understand if they care enough to learn. The problem is, most people just don't give a #. They are too busy watching X-factor and caring about Wayne Rooney to care.

University won't make people care. It will however put them in debt, and in lot of cases give them useless degree which in no way prepares them for the working world.

If you are a deserving pupil with the desire to obtain a useful degree, then I absolutely agree you should have the opportunity to attend University.

Today Uni isn't about an academic experience, it's about a 4 year long party.

How does destroying property aid a cause?
Try telling that to someone whos family member may have been working in that building at the time?
How would any of you that condone this like it if a mob tipped up in your town and started wrecking the gaf?

Spare me the bs please, i know for a fact that there will be not one of you that would be telling your kids that this is right.
Nothing wrong with protesting but smashing the place up? Oh and the fire extinguisher that was thrown off the roof, i supose thats ok too?
Behave!!

reply to post by Uncle Gravity


How many politicians are there? How many non politicians?

We out number them. We hire them. We are ultimately in charge. But we don't' care as long as we have our x factor and our football we just don't care.

Originally posted by JohnySeagull
watching this live and can't see much evidence of any 'rent a mobs'

a lot of students are in plain sight wrecking the place, many not bothering to cover their faces.



the whole thing is streaming live on www.skynews.com

Well, a ''rent-a-mob'' is not really any formal group that has a distinctive appearance.

It would be impossible to tell whether these people are ''rent-a-mob'' types or not, based purely on their appearance.


Football hooligans are a perfect example of a ''rent-a-mob''. You'd be surprised at the appearance of many trouble-makers around football grounds, because not all of them are Stone Island or Henri Lloyd clad thugs who sport crew-cuts !