11/8/2010 - Ultimate proof exposing Raj Patel as Maitreya

Originally posted by Beamish


Love the one about Alexander the Great. You can U2U me for my Paypal address to transfer this $1,000.

I am at work right now, so I will answer you this favorite of yours about Alexander:

Please, would you be so kind as to show all of us, the verse in the qur'an where it says ANYTHING about Alexander the Great.

Please produce the verse, word by word as a reply to my post.

Thank you very much.


As for the reference you posted, here are the verses 89-98 of the 18th chapter of Qur'an:

Then followed he (another) way
Until, when he came to the rising of the sun, he found it rising on a people for whom We had provided no covering protection against the sun.
(He left them) as they were: We completely understood what was before him.
Then followed he (another) way,
Until, when he reached (a tract) between two mountains, he found, beneath them, a people who scarcely understood a word.
They said: "O Zul-qarnain! the Gog and Magog (People) do great mischief on earth: shall we then render thee tribute in order that thou mightest erect a barrier between us and them?
He said: "(The power) in which my Lord has established me is better (than tribute): Help me therefore with strength (and labour): I will erect a strong barrier between you and them:
"Bring me blocks of iron." At length, when he had filled up the space between the two steep mountain-sides, He said, "Blow (with your bellows)" Then, when he had made it (red) as fire, he said: "Bring me, that I may pour over it, molten lead."
Thus were they made powerless to scale it or to dig through it.
He said: "This is a mercy from my Lord: But when the promise of my Lord comes to pass, He will make it into dust; and the promise of my Lord is true."

reply to post by skajkingdom

The renowned Encyclopaedia of Islam, New Edition, Vol. IV, 1978 states

Al-ISKANDAR. It is generally agreed both by Muslim commentators and modern occidental scholars that Dhu 'l-Karnayn, "the two horned", in Sura XVIII, 83/82-98 is to be indentified with Alexander the Great.

The renowned Muslim commentators, the two Jalals, say regarding S. 18:83 that:

And they, the Jews, question you concerning Dhū'l-Qarnayn, whose name was Alexander; he was not a prophet. Say: 'I shall recite, relate, to you a mention, an account, of him', of his affair. (Tafsir al-Jalalayn; online source...

www.answering-islam.org...

altafsir.com...



It seems that it's all down to perspective (biased or not), doesn't it?

What about the other problems?

U2U. $1,000.

Originally posted by Beamish
It seems that it's all down to perspective (biased or not), doesn't it?

What about the other problems?

U2U. $1,000.

edit on 10-11-2010 by Beamish because: additional source.

Yeah,yeah ... right ... YOU WROTE that the QUR'AN says that Alexander the Great this and that.

Qur'an NEVER mentiones Alexander the Great. NEVER.
And if God wanted to mention him, he could have used his name in arabic which WAS known at that time as Al-Iskander. I ought to know since it is my Name too (- Skender).

As I said, I will post answer to each of your points. Even if you bring 2 million points, which you can't, but still.

But I am at work right now and can only write a bit here and there.

reply to post by skajkingdom

Yeah,yeah ... right ... YOU WROTE that the QUR'AN says that Alexander the Great this and that.

What a blatantly ridiculous, illogical response.

You’re showing a serious lack of intelligence and a huge amount of ignorance by accusing me of writing this.

It’s clear that you obviously haven’t done any research whatsoever on the subject, just swallowed all you’ve read hook line and sinker.

Qur'an NEVER mentiones Alexander the Great. NEVER.

Not directly, no, but it does talk about Dhul-Qarnayn – “The Two Horned One”. He is identified with Alexander by Ibn Hisham via Ibn Ishaq’s history:

Dhu al-Qarnain is Alexander the Greek, the king of Persia and Greece, or the king of the east and the west, for because of this he was called Dhul-Qarnayn [meaning, 'the two-horned one']

Alexander is also mentioned in the Tafsir:

And they, the Jews, question you concerning Dhū’l-Qarnayn, whose name was Alexander; he was not a prophet. Say: ‘I shall recite, relate, to you a mention, an account, of him’, of his affair.

Fakhr al-Din al-Razi mentions Alexander in Tafsir al-Kabir :

While a survey in the history we do not find anybody other than Macedonian Alexander, therefore, the Dhul Qarnayn is the same Macedonian Alexander

en.wikipedia.org...'an#Theological_controversy_2

So, it wasn’t me who decided to rock your little boat, was it? And what have you got against Alexander, anyway?

And if God wanted to mention him…

God didn’t write the Quran. Man did.

Now: U2U. $1,000.

Originally posted by Beamish
Contradictions in the Quran? Here you go:

1. Creation: The biblical Genesis account says God created all in six days (see Genesis 1:1 - 2:2). The Quran, however, has a real problem here as Surah 41:9, 10, 12 have a total of eight days of creation (4+2+2=8) Meanwhile, Surah 10:3 gives the total number of days of creation as six. This is a problem of self-contradiction.

Nope. It is 6 days/eons/periods of times. Not 8.
How do you come at eight?
God created the earth in 6 days. When he initially created earth (2 days) in the same 2 days he created the heavens - then it took 4 more days to make it habitable (create mountains and oceans, rivers, flora). Thus, in total 6 days from the beginning to finalization of the earth and heavens.

Earth and heavens, according to Qur'an, and according to modern science were created simultaneously, e.g. after the big bang, all the material for the creation of stars and planets was present.

And this is EXACTLY what the verses in question say. But you DID NOT read them - you read the anti-islamic drivel in those anti-islamic websites you brought - who cannot even count.

Here are the verses:

41:9- Say: Is it that ye deny Him Who created the earth in two Days? And do ye join equals with Him? He is the Lord of (all) the Worlds.
He set on the (earth), mountains standing firm, high above it, and bestowed
blessings on the earth, and measure therein all things to give them nourishment in due
proportion, in four Days, in accordance with (the needs of) those who seek
(Sustenance).
Moreover He comprehended in His design the sky, and it had been (as) smoke: He said to it and to the earth: "Come ye together, willingly or unwillingly." They said: "We do come (together), in willing obedience."
41:12- So He completed them as seven firmaments in two Days, and He assigned to each heaven its duty and command. And We adorned the lower heaven with lights, and (provided it) with guard. Such is the Decree of (Him) the Exalted in Might, Full of Knowledge.

Notice that when he commanded the heavens AND the earth, they were still in a smoke state (they "hadnt come together" yet) - thus these are the same 2 initial days when the heavens (stars, galaxies) and earth (planets, solar system) were created.

2. Pharaoh: According to the Quran (Surah 7:120-125) Pharaoh used crucifixion in dealing with the sorcerers - a practice which historical evidence gives no precedent to before the Babylonian Empire. This is once again a problem of historical compression.

According to historians, and most notably christian missionaries, Muhammad not only copied from the Bible, but by doing so he even made errors. So he talks in the Qur'an about a guy named "Haman" who was allegedly Pharaos Architect - yet "we know" according to the Bible that Haman lived 1000 years apart from Moses and nowhere near Egypt - so Muhammad mixed them up.
NOT.
Because, as it turns out, the latest discoveries in egyptology PROVE undoutably that the Pharao had INDEED a quarry overseer named Haman who was responsible for all the architecture of said Pharao.
See, Qur'an, since coming from God, provides information which often isn't even known yet to the historians.
As for crucifiction:
There are just WAY TOO MANY archeological, historical and other sources that mention crucifiction and smash your argument.
E.g.:
- Theban Account Papyrus (Papyrus Boulaq 18) (Egypt, 13th Dynasty)
- Stela Of Amenophis IV (Akhenaten) (Egypt, 18th Dynasty)
- Abydos Decree Of Sethos I At Nauri, Year 4. (Egypt, 19th Dynasty)
- Amada Stela Of Merenptah: Libyan War (Karnak) (19th Dynasty)
- Papyrus BM10052 (20th Dynasty)

And many more ...

3. The Golden Calf: According to the Quran (Surah 20:90-100)a Samaritan helped the Israelites build the golden calf, and it mooed after coming out of the fire. In reality, Samaritans did not exist as a people until at least 1000 years after the time of the Moses and the Israelite exodus from Egypt. Again a problem of historical compression.

Ah yes, the good old missionary claim:
Check this out:

Until the middle of the 20th century it was commonly believed that the Samaritans originated from a mixed race people living in Samaria at the time of the Assyrian conquest (722 BCE). This was based solely on the evidence of II Kings 17.
Contrary to the claims of the missionaries and apologists, specialists in Samaritan studies have noted that the use of the term "shomronim" in II Kings 17 tells us nothing about the origins of the Samaritans. Shomronim means the "inhabitants of Samaria" and it has nothing to do with shamerin, "keepers" or "observers" of the Torah, which the Samaritans use for themselves. Furthermore, modern scholars have conclusively rejected II Kings 17 as a source for the origins of Samaritans.
A historical analysis of the Samaritan Chronicle II reveals that the Samaritans are the direct descendants of the Joseph tribes, Ephraim and Manasseh (way before Moses and Pharao)
The Qur'anic mention of the name "al-Samiri" sometimes translated as "the Samaritan" (Qur'an 20:85, 87 and 95) is consistent with modern investigations into the origins of the Samaritan sect.

4. Judaism: According to the Quran (Surah 9:30) the Jews believe that Ezra is the Son of God - the Messiah. This never has been a tenet of Judaism. This is a clear problem of distorted knowledge of other religions and historical fact.

Oh yes, this HAS been the case, with several jewish tribes in the arabian peninsula.
And not only that, but in general Jews claimed for themself to be "the Sons of God".
That is just a known claim, if you have read the Bible.

5. Alexander the Great: According to the Quran (Surah 18:89-98) Alexander the Great was a devout Muslim and lived to a ripe old age. Historical records however show that Alexander the Great died young at 33 years of age (b. 356 B.C. - d. 323 B.C.), and believed he was divine, forcing others to recognize him as such. In India on the Hyphasis River (now Beas) Alexander erected twelve altars to twelve Olympian gods. Once again the Quran shows errors in historical and religious fact.

Already answered this.

6. The Trinity: According to the Quran (Surah 5:116, 5:73-75) the Christians believe in "three Gods" - Father, Mother, and Son. This shows the influence of heretical 'Christian' sects in central Arabia at the time of Muhammad. In contrast, Christianity has always distinctly stated that the Trinity is the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. The teaching of the Quran on the Trinity has undoubtedly led to confusion among many Muslims on what the Bible (and thus Christianity) teaches about the Triune God.

Oh I love this one. Please show us the verse in the Qur'an where it is WRITTEN that the Trinity is comprised of "Father, Mother, and Son" - or "Father, Mother, and Holy Ghost" - or any other combination.

7. Mary: According to the Quran (Surah 19:28, 3:33-36), Mary, the mother of Jesus, was the daughter of Imran or Amram, the father of Moses and Aaron. Mary is also said to be the sister of Moses and Aaron. Clearly Muhammad confused Mary with Miriam.
A second interesting point about Mary is the story of the date palm speaking and offering its fruit to her (Surah 19:23). This legend is easily traced to similar legends found in the apocryphal "Protoevangelium of James" the "Pseudo-Matthew" and "the Gospel of the Nativity of Mary" all of which have been dated to the fourth to sixth centuries, and were again believed by the sects found in Arabia. (More indepth information on Quranic sources may be found in Rev. W. St. Clair Tisdall's The Religion of the Crescent).

And again, if you had ANY idea about semitic form of expression, you would know that a title like "Sister of Aron" - does not mean literally Sister of Moses' Brother, but associated with the tribe from Aron.
The same is valid for expressions like "Daughter of Imran". It is an association.
It is no different than arabic "Father of Cats" - a title for Abu Huraira - do you want to say Abu Huraira literally had Cats as offspring?

8. Textual Variants in the Quran: Many Muslims claim that the Quran today is identical to the revelations received by Muhammad. However, there is overwhelming unanswered evidence to the contrary. This includes evidence of variations both prior to, and after Uthman.

If you knew anything about the arabic, you wouldn't even mention this. I mean, seriously? This isn't even an argument.

Originally posted by skajkingdom
Stop your Orientalist propaganda. No one buys into that crap anymore.

No propaganda here. Just using the Qu'ran against the Qu'ran .. which is amazingly easy considering the massive errors and contradictions in it. Not to mention the MISOGYNY that it is loaded with.

And no, there are no contradictions in the Qur'an.
Bring me just one, I will send you 1000$. I am not kidding.

OMG .. It's LOADED with errors and contradictions. And I want my $1,000 to be donated to a good charity .. one that unbrainwashes people from believing in the Qu'ran bunk. Make sure I get proof .. a receipt ... Heck, you could buy 1,000 worth of the book 'Why I am not a muslim' by Ibn Warriq and distribute it to all the poor deluded people who actually follow that cult called Islam. I'll accept you doing that as well. Pick one or the other - donate the 1,000 to a NON MUSLIM charity that deprograms people, or get $1,000 worth of that book from Barnes and Nobel and distribute it (as a penance for all the time you have backed Islam )

Were men and the mythological Jinns created for worship or for Hell?
Created only to serve God [Sura 51:56]
many of them made for Hell [Sura 7:179]

Here's another goodie ... God prefers humans over everyone else, even though the majority are evil and hellbound. So the innocent creatures of the planet are of lesser stature then the hellish humans. Yeah ... right. This 'god' of the Qu'ran can't make up his freak'n mind. Probably because the Qu'ran was written by madmen.

S. 17:70 says that Allah prefers (all) the children of Adam over many of his creatures,
S. 98:6 declares the majority of men to be the worst of creatures
(S. 7:179) many of them being even created specifically for Hell

Is Jesus in Hell or Heaven? So which is it? Jesus is in heaven because God brought him up ... or ... because he is worshipped by Christians he is regulated to Hell along with those who worship him? CONRADICTION.
Sura 4:158 - Jesus is raised to Allah
Sura 3:45 Jesus is near stationed with him
Sura 3:45 worshiped by millions of Christians
Sura 21:98 all that are worshiped by men besides Allah will burn in Hell together with those who worship them.

Here's a goodie ....
Sura 6:101 - Allah cannot have a son without a consort
Sura 19:21 - Mary can have a son without a consort because that is easy for Allah

And a fun one - which is it ... all messengers from Abraham's seed or messengers from among everyone?
Sura 29:27 states that all prophets came Abraham's seed.
Sura 16:36 claims that Allah raised messengers from among every people.

Partial list of contradictions
Here are just a few of the HUNDREDS of contradictions -

- Who Was the First Muslim? Muhammad [6:14, 163], Moses [7:143], some Egyptians [26:51], or Abraham [2:127-133, 3:67] or Adam, the first man who also received inspiration from Allah [2:37]?

- Can Allah be seen and did Muhammad see his Lord? Yes [S. 53:1-18, 81:15-29], No [6:102-103, 42:51].

- Were Warners Sent to All Mankind Before Muhammad? Allah had supposedly sent warners to every people [10:47, 16:35-36, 35:24], Abraham and Ishmael are specifically claimed to have visited Mecca and built the Kaaba [2:125-129]. Yet, Muhammad supposedly is sent to a people who never had a messenger before [28:46, 32:3, 34:44, 36:2-6]. This article also raises other issues: What about Hud and Salih who supposedly were sent to the Arabs? What about the Book that was supposedly given to Ishmael? Etc.

- What will be the food for the people in Hell? The food for the people in Hell will be only "Dhari" [Sura 88:6], or only foul pus from the washing of wounds [S. 69:36], or will they also get to eat from the tree of Zaqqum [S. 37:66]? Together, these verses constitute three contradictions.

SUGGESTED READING FOR ALL - Why I am not a Muslim by Ibn Warriq.
FANTASTIC book. Well documented. Exposes the fraud of Islam for what it is -
a misogynistic bloodthirsty brainless cult that has destroyed civilizations and
millions of peoples lives in a bloodbath.

reply to post by skajkingdom


You’re completely missing the point, which isn’t unusual for anyone with fanatical tendencies; that the apparent infallible “word of God” can be interpreted and argued in different ways – and the Quran is no different than the Bible in that respect – makes it patently imperfect.

And if it’s imperfect – contestable - then it’s not the word of God.

It’s as simple as that.

No matter what propaganda you wish to fill your head with, the fact that one can question the historical, linguistic and scientific problems it raises, or the fact that there are several versions of the Quran transmitted and read down the centuries, makes this book just like any other. It was written by Man.

There’s no way you can prove it wasn’t.

And as far as the claims in the Quran go, that is the biggest contradiction of all.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Oh just stop that Copy&Paste dude.

None of what you are bringing is of value.
NONE.

All been refuted a thousand times.


At least READ it before you post it for crying out loud.

Originally posted by skajkingdom
Oh just stop that Copy&Paste dude.

I'm a girl.

None of what you are bringing is of value. NONE. All been refuted a thousand times.

It's VERY valuable and as far as being refuted - No it hasn't.
Give it a try ... double dog dare ya'.

I posted facts. Facts that can not be refuted. I win.

About that $1,000 .... I'm thinking you really should spend it on massive numbers of copies of that book I mentioned and you should pass them out to all your brainwashed buddies. That's probably the best thing that could happen for you at this point.

Originally posted by xiphias

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
7 is for the current period that we are living since the 7th century: the Apocalypse.

7 is not the Apocalypse. It's Armageddon, it started 8 days ago, and only a few people truly understand what armageddon is.

The Apocalypse occurs in roughly 30 years, but only if we let it happen.

edit on 8-11-2010 by xiphias because: (no reason given)

Only because the ones running this world, and the ones behind the scenes, are trying to make everything happen according to the book. They, who imagine themselves elevated above the masses, and really don't understand Infinity, its implications to the deep thinker, and what it really means think they can get away with pulling this deception over on the people.

However, things are being handled above by the true Higher Ups and for the sake of lessons, some things may occur, for this is a school, and there is some law of consequence here, and its for the highest good, growth of the students that tests come. However, no teacher gives a higher level student a lower level test, and that level we need to reach is: LOVE!. Unconditional Love, to turn the other cheek Love, to care about everyone ,including the "bad guys" LOVE. To wake up and become more mature and not react, not lash out in anger. And do this at home, amongst Family/Friends and in the world.

Its not going to go the way they think. Things will occur, but they do all already. Every day is the harvest, whenever we leave this world, and so we need to stop being distracted by the distractions and see war and poverty for the horrors they are, and Love. Change our relationships with others, from argumentative to supportive, ie. to help the ones who are demonstrating lack of maturity and Love.

Invite the leaders and corporate heads to join us, to wake up themselves, before its too late for them, they need a lot of awareness and Love from us demonstrated as well.

This always has to do with the misconceptions the Luciferean Gnostic group running this world have and their misunderstandings of earth as a school and Infinity and souls, who are not imprints or tares. There are many ways interventions can occur, I don't know them all. But I just thought of one, where their own actions misfire, due to their misconception of humanity and the real purpose for being here. And that intent of heart is important. For it has far more to do with Intent and Love than anything else, and most people are doing the best they can in my books, given their paradigms and whats around them.

One scenario would really be natural law of consequence, that what they are attempting to bring in, the Eye of Horus, and the return of Quetzcoatl, the S group so to speak, feathered serpent, and "harvest", is going to backfire on them. Kind of like a dark hearted magician conjuring up a Phantom, to harm his neighbors that immediately turns on him, for the negative have no power over positive people.

Originally posted by skajkingdom
Bring me just one, I will send you 1000$. I am not kidding.

Hey skajkingdom ... where's my freak'n money???? Where's the receipt for the charity?? Or the receipt showing you've ordered the books to hand out and to deprogram all the poor slobs who are brainwashed by that cult?

WHERE IS IT ???

I brought you over a hundred contradictions and errors.
Does that mean I get hundreds of thousands of dollars?

You'd best take out a loan! Seriously .... where's the receipt? Let's see it.

The idea of Maitreya, to me is a distraction. Morpheus asked Neo, Where you listening to me or looking at the woman in the red dress?

Whats more important is that we start to realize who we are, the Love we need to bring into our relationships and to go the extra mile with people, turning the other cheek, rather than disagreeing or arguing who is right. To model: love, patience, kindness, compassion, charity, and turn our own lives around. I have faith that there are true Higher Ups and nothing is an accident/coincidence, so the best thing we can do is change our weaknesses into strengths and wake up, and nudge others by our behaviors.

Originally posted by sapien82
reply to post by xiphias

 

so in order for our civilisation to stand a chance we must recognise we are not the centre of the universe and also must realise we must be benevolant and not evil. If not the planet will kill us all and start again .

Seems a bit unfair for those who are good and kind , so the good will suffer from the actions of those evil people in power , so the planet will wipe us all out , well seems like good never stands a chance

It's not unfair. It's the way it has to be in order for the material universe to remain balanced. Can't have a bunch of trigger-happy, blood-lusting maniacs flying around in space conquering planets, enslaving races, stripping resources, and forcing religion on the "primitives," can we? If it were any other way, a civilization much more powerful than ours would have set up a monopoly on the entire galaxy by now, possibly the entire universe.

Death is not the end, otherwise it would be totally unfair. On the other hand, the universe is not fair; it is only balanced; the fairness is on the universal level, not on the planetary level. If our civilization lets itself be eliminated (through ignorance and inaction), a civilization will rise to replace ours. Our universe is big on recycling.

Originally posted by Unity_99
Its not going to go the way they think. Things will occur, but they do all already. Every day is the harvest, whenever we leave this world, and so we need to stop being distracted by the distractions and see war and poverty for the horrors they are, and Love. Change our relationships with others, from argumentative to supportive, ie. to help the ones who are demonstrating lack of maturity and Love.

The sequence of events is already in motion. All the knowledge of the sequence is based on warnings of the worst case scenario; yet some people seem to prefer the worst-case scenario. The future is not written in stone. Nothing is absolute. There is only probable and improbable.

The harvest is a harvest of the ego. When we die, the ego is harvested by the planet anyway, so there's no point in worrying about it. The timeline is set up so the collective ego is shed en-masse, and the civilization rises to a new level of advancement. Think of it as "ligthening the load" - the collective ego becomes lighter, and the civilization ascends (spiritually and technologically) - almost like a helium-filled balloon.

There are those among our civilization who rely on the ego to fulfill their destiny. They will use the shedding of the ego ("the harvest") to descend, while the civilization as a whole ascends. It's a necessary evil; the theft of the ego from the planet, but once they descend; the remaining civilization is paid back ten-fold. It's the literal "ray of light," and the figurative "ray of hope." A sort of back-draft of love and wisdom emitted from darkness.

You could even compare it to Hawking Radiation. Our ascent is literally on the event horizon, and at this very moment we are speeding towards the spiritual singularity.

The harvest is actually global enlightenment, quite literally. The gift rises from the curse. If we fail to use the gift to eliminate the curse, we go extinct. It's as simple as that. Unfortunately, there are people in our world who will demonize the gift as unholy or unnatural. Such is ignorance.

Originally posted by Unity_99
The idea of Maitreya, to me is a distraction. Morpheus asked Neo, Where you listening to me or looking at the woman in the red dress?

Whats more important is that we start to realize who we are, the Love we need to bring into our relationships and to go the extra mile with people, turning the other cheek, rather than disagreeing or arguing who is right. To model: love, patience, kindness, compassion, charity, and turn our own lives around. I have faith that there are true Higher Ups and nothing is an accident/coincidence, so the best thing we can do is change our weaknesses into strengths and wake up, and nudge others by our behaviors.

Exactly. We sit around waiting for superman to fly down and save us, yet we fail to realize that it is we who must save our civilization, collectively. Laziness and endless speculation leads to extinction through inaction. The Maitreya won't make things better with some magic wand. They will only teach and lead by example. If their lessons fall on deaf ears, well, so much for that idea.

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

 

You're exposed, you've not even watched the episode. The episode's duration is 15 min and in less than 5 minutes you're already denying it.

You're really unfair and God does not guide the unfair people.

No that's not true. You have spammed this concept in multiple places, not just ATS. I can deny it based of your track record.

How many threads have you made about this?

/end thread

reply to post by skajkingdom


Don't fall in their trap, they are not truly listening to you, they only seek opposition and whether you warn them or not they won't come back to God.

God asks us to warn those who truly fear him.

Just read my exchanges with them, these people are not fair. No worries, they are digging their own grave, just let them...

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
reply to post by skajkingdom

 

Don't fall in their trap, they are not truly listening to you, they only seek opposition and whether you warn them or not they won't come back to God.

God asks us to warn those who truly fear him.

Just read my exchanges with them, these people are not fair. No worries, they are digging their own grave, just let them...

God does not need to be feared. He is all around us and IS us. He could wipe us out and recreate our entire existence with a single thought. Fear is a tool used by man to hold onto power. If God wanted us to fear him, that makes him an evil entity. I refuse to believe that. The only thing God wants us to fear is our own ignorance and apathy. We exist to learn. We learn from fear. We are not intended to succumb to that fear. We will all have to overcome our fear by taking a leap of faith in the near future.

Fear of God is actually the fear your leaders have of you. As a piece of God; a being with free-will and a brain, you have the power of God: choice, and this makes you worth fearing.

Fear is not an option. The only options are survival or extinction.

P.S.
Heresy is relative to the source.

All read.

This is a message to all who agree on this TruthOfGod guy being a dillusional, twisted mind.

Let's put this guy on ignore, I longer wish to read the utter nonsense presented by this biased rant.

May God have mercy on his soul.

ZOMG!

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Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
I am saying the Truth of God, unfortunately for you, you seem unable to see it.

Who the heck are you to judge me? Nobody. How dare you judge me and my knowledge of the truth. You don't know me, or my knowledge. How dare you pretend to know. You shall not judge me!

You are not the voice of God.

You have been exposed as judgmental... You are judging Raj Patel, you are judging me, and you have judged others on this topic. You are NOT a voice of God. You are a sinner, plain and simple.

You see this?

Originally posted by TheTruthIsFromGod
1999 - Raj Patel has participated to his first major public action during the protests of Seattle against the World Trade Organization. Raj Patel was among the organizers of this event which took place in 11/30/1999 --->
1+1+3+0+1+9+9+9 = 33 = 11 * 3 = 11 * 11 (= 3 in binary).

...that is NOT TRUTH. Your mathematics of meaningless numbers is NOT TRUTH. It is simply nonsense.

The truth is not with you, you have been mislead. God help you.